JAY-Z Blames Ambition And Ego For Failed Supergroup With DMX & Ja Rule

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JAY-Z, DMX and Ja Rule were supposed to form a supergroup in the late ’90s, but it never came to light, and Hov has now shared why he thinks it didn’t work out.

In the premiere episode of the new Murder Inc. BET documentary, label founder Irv Gotti recalled the time that Jay, X and Ja were working closely with each other to the point people in the industry referred to them as a supergroup.

Irv was instrumental in helping JAY-Z, DMX and Ja Rule but he saw something within all three of them that screamed supergroup. However, things didn’t go as planned as each rapper was much more focused on their solo careers, which Hov attributed to how competitive they were as well as each of them having a big ego.

“I think it was everyone’s ambition and everyone’s ego,” JAY-Z said. “It was just three guys, three independent labels, three Black men who are all fighting to be the best in the world.”






The three rappers were featured on various songs together, such as “Can I Get A…,” “Money, Cash, Hoes,” “Blackout” and more, and as hype around them grew so did the call for them to form a group.

Irv Gotti was planting the seeds of his Murder Inc label when he saw an opportunity to market and brand his new company through the formidable rap trio.

“The supergroup with Jay, X and Ja, I used it to push branding for Murder Inc. All I gotta do is put a hot track on, and they gon go at it,” Irv said. “If there’s a studio and the rappers is rapping, X is trying to kill you. Hov, you can’t tell Hov he ain’t the best. He thinks he’s fukking the illest ever, and he might be. Rule has a Napoleon complex. If you think for one second he’s bowing down to anybody, no.”

Some of the songs from those sessions would be “It’s Murda” off Ja’s debut album Venni Vetti Vecci, and “Murdagram” off the Streets Is Watching soundtrack.

Hov added: “Me and X had like a thing. He was always super competitive with me. I was super competitive at that time as well. Ja was just happy to be in the room at the time he hadn’t become the Ja Rule that we all come to know and love.”

The documentary will also see Irv Gotti dive into the infamous 2003 FBI raid at the Murder Inc. offices in New York. Irv and his brother Christopher Lorenzo were accused of money laundering through alleged financial transactions associated with drug kingpin Kenneth “Supreme” McGriff.

During a conversation with HipHopDX, Irv revealed he felt shunned by the music industry after the incident.

“When the feds come after you — what’s the character on Snoopy?” Gotti asked. “He’s got a cloud that’s always raining on him. Oh, Pigpen. I was Pigpen. So it’s sunny outside, but it was raining. I would go in to have meetings with these top executives in entertainment, and I would have the best meeting. They would be like, ‘You’re really a genius. This was great.’

“I would leave they office and nothing would happen. So basically what I felt was happening is once I left the office, someone either called them or they Googled me, and they seen the bullshyt with the feds, and someone said, ‘Don’t fukk with him.’ And no one fukked with me.”
 

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Joint project from them wouldn't have been all that tbh :yeshrug:

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No disrespect to Ja but why would Jay or X want to be una group with fukking Ja Rule at the time? It was clearly Irv trying to blow HIS artist up. This shyt was obviously never gonna come to fruition.
Yall say the stupidest shyt
 

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No disrespect to Ja but why would Jay or X want to be una group with fukking Ja Rule at the time? It was clearly Irv trying to blow HIS artist up. This shyt was obviously never gonna come to fruition.
Venni Vetti Vicci Ja would’ve fit in just fine with X and Jay, he’d be the “weakest” but the weakest amongst two greats ain’t like being the weakest amongst scrubs. And Ja (Irv) know how to make a song, this is one of the phantom never happened albums that would’ve been dope if it had come out in 99/00
 

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None of them had chemistry on tracks like what we saw with Jay and X outside of Nas and AZ. Furthermore this was some of the weakest production from Dre, dude switched it up and it ain’t really hit. Jay, X, Ja wasn’t about to have an album full of subpar beats
 

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Never saw the back of the XXL cover before. Biting off ICE T Power.

Another reason why it would not have worked out is because of the label. Def Jam goes down as perhaps the greatest label in hip hop history, but they notoriously pitted artists against each other for promotional resources. Whoever is the hottest got the lion's share of budgets and promo. fukk your rollout schedule, promo tour, in-store dates if the next act has a hot single.

The "subliminal rap beef lines" thread has a good number of Def Jam artists throwing darts at each other for that reason.
 
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