Jay-Z in The New York Times: "Probation is a trap."
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My interpretation of your first comment was that you were saying either the judge "can't" violate someone due to a piss test, which they can, or maybe you were saying they shouldn't, which I agree with, but it happens everyday.
WHat do you think I am referring too... and what difference does it make?
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I was saying that they shouldn't....... and depending on your hue, a lot don't..
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update 11/28/17
Pa. Superior Court denies Meek Mill's emergency bail motion
Updated: November 28, 2017 — 1:20 PM EST
by Joseph A. Slobodzian, Staff Writer @JoeSlobo | jslobodzian@phillynews.com
The Pennsylvania Superior Court on Tuesday denied Meek Mill’s emergency motion to get out on bail while he appeals the decision this month by a Philadelphia judge to send him back to prison.
But in what the Philadelphia-born rapper’s lawyer called a victory, the appeals court ordered Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Genece E. Brinkley to rule on the bail petition Mill’s lawyers filed two weeks ago — and explain her reasons “without further delay.”
“This is good news,” said the lawyer, Peter Goldberger, hired because of his expertise in appellate law to challenge the two- to four-year prison term Brinkley imposed on Nov. 6.
The Superior Court’s ruling came within hours of Mill’s motion for an emergency bail order, which complained that Brinkley has not responded to any of Mill’s post-sentencing appeals.
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Rapper Meek Mill at the Criminal Justice Center in Philadelphia on Nov. 6.
“As of this filing, more than 10 days after submission [Brinkley] has taken no action — not even to schedule a hearing — on any petitioner’s motions, and in particular not on the bail motion,” the emergency habeas corpus petition says.
Habeas corpus motions are typically a last resort after a criminal defendant has exhausted other avenues of appeal. And legally, Brinkley has 30 days to respond to Mill’s Nov. 14 motions.
In the Superior Court petition, however, Goldberger contended that the motion is allowed under state appellate rules “to seek transfer from unlawful to lawful form of custody — such as bail, in this case — as well as to obtain release from all custody.”
The motion describes Mill — born Robert Williams — as being in a “Catch-22” situation: He can’t appeal his conviction and sentence to the Superior Court until Brinkley rules on his post-sentence motions, and she “refuses to do so.”
Brinkley, 61, a city judge since 1993, is prohibited from commenting on the controversy surrounding her by rules of judicial conduct.
Her only response so far was on Nov. 17 when she canceled a bail hearing for Mill that had been scheduled through a clerical error.
Since Mill was sentenced to prison for violating the terms of his probation in a 2008 drug and gun case, his management company, Roc Nation, has been marshaling his fans and supporters on his behalf.
There have been protests outside the city’s Criminal Justice Center, buses and billboards calling for the hip-hop star’s release, and internet petitions that have been signed by hundreds of thousands of people.
Some criminal justice reformers have used Mill as an example of the unfair and disparate treatment meted out to young black men caught up in the court system.
On Monday, the Rev. Al Sharpton visited Mill at the state prison in Chester and promised to use his reputation as a civil rights activists and television personality to help Mill and other prisoners.
Brinkley imprisoned Mill after he tested positive for using the prescription narcotic Percocet and was arrested in a St. Louis airport altercation and in a traffic violation involving a motorbike in Manhattan. In both arrests, authorities agreed to reduce the charges after Mill entered pretrial diversion programs. The city prosecutor and Mill’s probation officer did not recommend that he be sentenced to a prison term for the violations.
Pa. Superior Court denies Meek Mill's emergency bail motion
Updated: November 28, 2017 — 1:20 PM EST
by Joseph A. Slobodzian, Staff Writer @JoeSlobo | jslobodzian@phillynews.com
The Pennsylvania Superior Court on Tuesday denied Meek Mill’s emergency motion to get out on bail while he appeals the decision this month by a Philadelphia judge to send him back to prison.
But in what the Philadelphia-born rapper’s lawyer called a victory, the appeals court ordered Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Genece E. Brinkley to rule on the bail petition Mill’s lawyers filed two weeks ago — and explain her reasons “without further delay.”
“This is good news,” said the lawyer, Peter Goldberger, hired because of his expertise in appellate law to challenge the two- to four-year prison term Brinkley imposed on Nov. 6.
The Superior Court’s ruling came within hours of Mill’s motion for an emergency bail order, which complained that Brinkley has not responded to any of Mill’s post-sentencing appeals.
Rapper Meek Mill at the Criminal Justice Center in Philadelphia on Nov. 6.
“As of this filing, more than 10 days after submission [Brinkley] has taken no action — not even to schedule a hearing — on any petitioner’s motions, and in particular not on the bail motion,” the emergency habeas corpus petition says.
Habeas corpus motions are typically a last resort after a criminal defendant has exhausted other avenues of appeal. And legally, Brinkley has 30 days to respond to Mill’s Nov. 14 motions.
In the Superior Court petition, however, Goldberger contended that the motion is allowed under state appellate rules “to seek transfer from unlawful to lawful form of custody — such as bail, in this case — as well as to obtain release from all custody.”
The motion describes Mill — born Robert Williams — as being in a “Catch-22” situation: He can’t appeal his conviction and sentence to the Superior Court until Brinkley rules on his post-sentence motions, and she “refuses to do so.”
Brinkley, 61, a city judge since 1993, is prohibited from commenting on the controversy surrounding her by rules of judicial conduct.
Her only response so far was on Nov. 17 when she canceled a bail hearing for Mill that had been scheduled through a clerical error.
Since Mill was sentenced to prison for violating the terms of his probation in a 2008 drug and gun case, his management company, Roc Nation, has been marshaling his fans and supporters on his behalf.
There have been protests outside the city’s Criminal Justice Center, buses and billboards calling for the hip-hop star’s release, and internet petitions that have been signed by hundreds of thousands of people.
Some criminal justice reformers have used Mill as an example of the unfair and disparate treatment meted out to young black men caught up in the court system.
On Monday, the Rev. Al Sharpton visited Mill at the state prison in Chester and promised to use his reputation as a civil rights activists and television personality to help Mill and other prisoners.
Brinkley imprisoned Mill after he tested positive for using the prescription narcotic Percocet and was arrested in a St. Louis airport altercation and in a traffic violation involving a motorbike in Manhattan. In both arrests, authorities agreed to reduce the charges after Mill entered pretrial diversion programs. The city prosecutor and Mill’s probation officer did not recommend that he be sentenced to a prison term for the violations.
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update 12/04/17
Meek Mill's battle with judge enters another round
Updated: December 4, 2017 — 7:17 PM EST
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Rapper Meek Mill arrives at the criminal justice center in Philadelphia, Monday, Nov. 6, 2017.
by Mensah M. Dean & Joseph A. Gambardello - Staff Writers
The public battle between imprisoned Philadelphia-born rapper Meek Mill and Common Pleas Court Judge Genece Brinkley went another ugly round Monday, as the judge’s order denying bail and calling Mill a “dangerous” flight risk became public, and the rapper’s legal team filed a motion claiming the FBI had investigated the judge’s handling of the case.
The dueling court filings came nearly a month after Brinkley sentenced the rapper Nov. 6 to two to four years in state prison for repeated violations of his probation terms stemming from a 2008 drug dealing and gun case.
Brinkley’s decision was dated Friday and became public Monday. Last week, the Superior Court denied Mill’s emergency motion for bail but directed Brinkley to rule on his Nov. 16 bail petition and to explain her reasons “without further delay.”
In her seven-page opinion, Brinkley ruled that Mill was a danger to the community and to himself because of his drug use and reckless and violent behavior since his 2008 arrest. She said he was a flight risk due to the prison sentence she imposed and because he had given police and parole officials false addresses on a handful of occasions between 2012 and 2017.
Brinkley noted that under state law, “when a sentence of more than two years is imposed there is no constitutional right to bail pending resolution of post-sentence motions or direct appeal. Bail may be set solely at the discretion of the trial court.”
Among the reasons Brinkley cited for sending Mill, 30, to prison was his August 2017 arrest in New York for recklessly driving an all-terrain vehicle in traffic, and his March 2017 arrest at the St. Louis airport stemming from a fight.
“From his original arrest, conviction, and sentence on drug and gun charges in 2009 to his August 2017 arrest for endangering the citizens of New York City, defendant has demonstrated that he continues to pose a great risk to the safety of others in Philadelphia and throughout the country,” Brinkley wrote.
Brinkley also questioned the rapper’s contentions that he should be freed to maintain an active role in the lives of his son and mother.
“Defendant claims to be involved in his son’s life; however, significantly, his son does not reside in Philadelphia County,” the judge wrote. “One look at any travel schedule previously submitted to the court would belie that claim as defendant was often not even in the Philadelphia area because this court allowed defendant to travel outside Philadelphia while on probation. Likewise, defendant’s ties to his mother, who resides in New Jersey, are questionable for the same reason.”
“We are very disappointed with Judge Brinkley’s decision to deny Mr. Williams bail, which continues her long pattern of unfair treatment of him,” said Joe Tacopina, one of Mill’s attorneys. “As stated on multiple occasions, he has never missed a previous court date in this case and poses absolutely no threat to the community, which makes him an ideal candidate for bail – a conclusion [prosecutors] did not oppose.”
He said Mill’s legal team would immediately appeal the decision to Superior Court.
On Monday, Mill’s lawyers filed a new motion asking Brinkley to recuse herself from the case, claiming that she was the subject of a 2016 FBI investigation related to her conduct presiding over the case of the rapper, whose legal name is Robert Williams.
“The existence of a federal investigation involving Judge Brinkley’s conduct regarding Mr. Williams, combined with Judge Brinkley’s awareness of that investigation, raises further doubt as to her ability to preside impartially, and thus is an additional factor supporting recusal,” the defense team wrote.
They have publicly accused Brinkley of asking Mill to record a version of a Boyz II Men song and to change management companies. Mill attorney Brian McMonagle declined to answer questions Monday about last year’s FBI investigation or how Mill’s defense team became aware of it.
Federal law enforcement sources have confirmed that there is no active probe into Brinkley’s handling of Mill’s case. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.
An FBI spokeswoman in Philadelphia said that, per Justice Department policies, her office could not confirm or deny the existence of any investigation that did not result in criminal charges.
Since Mill was sentenced to prison, his management company, Roc Nation, has been marshaling his fans and supporters on his behalf. There have been protests outside the city’s Criminal Justice Center, buses and billboards calling for the hip-hop star’s release, and internet petitions with hundreds of thousands of signatures.
Some criminal justice reformers have cited Mill as an example of the unfair and disparate treatment meted out to young black men caught up in the court system.
Last week, the Rev. Al Sharpton visited Mill at the state prison in Chester and promised to use his reputation as a civil rights activist and television personality to help Mill and other prisoners
Meek Mill's battle with judge enters another round
Updated: December 4, 2017 — 7:17 PM EST
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Rapper Meek Mill arrives at the criminal justice center in Philadelphia, Monday, Nov. 6, 2017.
by Mensah M. Dean & Joseph A. Gambardello - Staff Writers
The public battle between imprisoned Philadelphia-born rapper Meek Mill and Common Pleas Court Judge Genece Brinkley went another ugly round Monday, as the judge’s order denying bail and calling Mill a “dangerous” flight risk became public, and the rapper’s legal team filed a motion claiming the FBI had investigated the judge’s handling of the case.
The dueling court filings came nearly a month after Brinkley sentenced the rapper Nov. 6 to two to four years in state prison for repeated violations of his probation terms stemming from a 2008 drug dealing and gun case.
Brinkley’s decision was dated Friday and became public Monday. Last week, the Superior Court denied Mill’s emergency motion for bail but directed Brinkley to rule on his Nov. 16 bail petition and to explain her reasons “without further delay.”
In her seven-page opinion, Brinkley ruled that Mill was a danger to the community and to himself because of his drug use and reckless and violent behavior since his 2008 arrest. She said he was a flight risk due to the prison sentence she imposed and because he had given police and parole officials false addresses on a handful of occasions between 2012 and 2017.
Brinkley noted that under state law, “when a sentence of more than two years is imposed there is no constitutional right to bail pending resolution of post-sentence motions or direct appeal. Bail may be set solely at the discretion of the trial court.”
Among the reasons Brinkley cited for sending Mill, 30, to prison was his August 2017 arrest in New York for recklessly driving an all-terrain vehicle in traffic, and his March 2017 arrest at the St. Louis airport stemming from a fight.
“From his original arrest, conviction, and sentence on drug and gun charges in 2009 to his August 2017 arrest for endangering the citizens of New York City, defendant has demonstrated that he continues to pose a great risk to the safety of others in Philadelphia and throughout the country,” Brinkley wrote.
Brinkley also questioned the rapper’s contentions that he should be freed to maintain an active role in the lives of his son and mother.
“Defendant claims to be involved in his son’s life; however, significantly, his son does not reside in Philadelphia County,” the judge wrote. “One look at any travel schedule previously submitted to the court would belie that claim as defendant was often not even in the Philadelphia area because this court allowed defendant to travel outside Philadelphia while on probation. Likewise, defendant’s ties to his mother, who resides in New Jersey, are questionable for the same reason.”
“We are very disappointed with Judge Brinkley’s decision to deny Mr. Williams bail, which continues her long pattern of unfair treatment of him,” said Joe Tacopina, one of Mill’s attorneys. “As stated on multiple occasions, he has never missed a previous court date in this case and poses absolutely no threat to the community, which makes him an ideal candidate for bail – a conclusion [prosecutors] did not oppose.”
He said Mill’s legal team would immediately appeal the decision to Superior Court.
On Monday, Mill’s lawyers filed a new motion asking Brinkley to recuse herself from the case, claiming that she was the subject of a 2016 FBI investigation related to her conduct presiding over the case of the rapper, whose legal name is Robert Williams.
“The existence of a federal investigation involving Judge Brinkley’s conduct regarding Mr. Williams, combined with Judge Brinkley’s awareness of that investigation, raises further doubt as to her ability to preside impartially, and thus is an additional factor supporting recusal,” the defense team wrote.
They have publicly accused Brinkley of asking Mill to record a version of a Boyz II Men song and to change management companies. Mill attorney Brian McMonagle declined to answer questions Monday about last year’s FBI investigation or how Mill’s defense team became aware of it.
Federal law enforcement sources have confirmed that there is no active probe into Brinkley’s handling of Mill’s case. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.
An FBI spokeswoman in Philadelphia said that, per Justice Department policies, her office could not confirm or deny the existence of any investigation that did not result in criminal charges.
Since Mill was sentenced to prison, his management company, Roc Nation, has been marshaling his fans and supporters on his behalf. There have been protests outside the city’s Criminal Justice Center, buses and billboards calling for the hip-hop star’s release, and internet petitions with hundreds of thousands of signatures.
Some criminal justice reformers have cited Mill as an example of the unfair and disparate treatment meted out to young black men caught up in the court system.
Last week, the Rev. Al Sharpton visited Mill at the state prison in Chester and promised to use his reputation as a civil rights activist and television personality to help Mill and other prisoners
Isaiah Bradley
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I respect Hov to the utmost, but there are nikkas that are better examples of how fawked up the system is rather than a nikka that chose to repeatedly violate probation
nikkas support and promote the persona/attitude that Mills and Cardi portray, then expect opposite actions from Black folks that are based on trust/unselfishness/reliability/authenticity
nikkas support and promote the persona/attitude that Mills and Cardi portray, then expect opposite actions from Black folks that are based on trust/unselfishness/reliability/authenticity
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
It’s like you guys don’t get the concept of justice. Have you ever lived abroad?
What Americans call justice others will label politics retribution.