Jay-Z Makes Appearance At Beyoncé Cowboy Carter Tour In Paris

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It's a good presentation who knows what goes on behind close doors.

I'm talking about the speculation it is a "marriage" of benefits and incentives more than "love/lust". Jay's career ten folded into superstardom and riches since their get together was public. As for B she went to copying promiscuous Rihanna and falling off the Hollywood movie trail and endorsements.

Pre-Jay :
- Austin Powers Gold Member starring role and 2nd most successful movie that year next to Star Wars.
- Pink Panther starring role next to Steve Martin.
- 75mill Coca-Cola endorsement to rival Britney's pepsi deal.
- etc.

Post-Jay :
- B movie role playing second fiddle to Ali Larter in 'obsession' with the on the come up Idris.
- flopped records like the Lion King Soundtrack.
- resorting to becoming a promiscuous down south thot to garner attention instead of her talent doing that.
- fell out of the MAXIM/FHM TOP 20 most beautiful women lists.
- She got exposed for lacking her own style and can not dress.
- Got rid of her Dad as management and etc.

Jay did well out of this. His first endorsement check was Budweiser Superbowl years and years ago and he has been ringing off big money ever since.

Personally I think B has fallen well off and another wave hopping 'cowboy' gimmick because they love attention whether they have something to showcase or not. Not long ago she was pro-afrocentric black mother earth Orisha Beyonce lol.

Hov sporting a one-piece fisherman get up. He should have gone with black boots instead of the sawdust timbs. :banderas:


Honestly we didn't need this break down. Obviously there has been benefits to the marriage financially but let's be real they haven't really sold their marriage to the world. We don't see anything about their lives outside of music.
 

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It's a good presentation who knows what goes on behind close doors.

I'm talking about the speculation it is a "marriage" of benefits and incentives more than "love/lust". Jay's career ten folded into superstardom and riches since their get together was public. As for B she went to copying promiscuous Rihanna and falling off the Hollywood movie trail and endorsements.

Pre-Jay :
- Austin Powers Gold Member starring role and 2nd most successful movie that year next to Star Wars.
- Pink Panther starring role next to Steve Martin.
- 75mill Coca-Cola endorsement to rival Britney's pepsi deal.
- etc.

Post-Jay :
- B movie role playing second fiddle to Ali Larter in 'obsession' with the on the come up Idris.
- flopped records like the Lion King Soundtrack.
- resorting to becoming a promiscuous down south thot to garner attention instead of her talent doing that.
- fell out of the MAXIM/FHM TOP 20 most beautiful women lists.
- She got exposed for lacking her own style and can not dress.
- Got rid of her Dad as management and etc.

Jay did well out of this. His first endorsement check was Budweiser Superbowl years and years ago and he has been ringing off big money ever since.

Personally I think B has fallen well off and another wave hopping 'cowboy' gimmick because they love attention whether they have something to showcase or not. Not long ago she was pro-afrocentric black mother earth Orisha Beyonce lol.

Hov sporting a one-piece fisherman get up. He should have gone with black boots instead of the sawdust timbs. :banderas:

 

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Honestly we didn't need this break down. Obviously there has been benefits to the marriage financially but let's be real they haven't really sold their marriage to the world. We don't see anything about their lives outside of music.

Respect all of this but will disagree somewhat with some of the things you said.

Bro they raised their daughter in public.

Always at award shows and on the red carpet like she has never been in school. They videotape and make docus about their relationship all the time.

As well as letting us know Jay cheated when no one would have ever known. I think this is a public relationship that benefits a new proud African-American image which is cool but it is what it is. They are about the spotlight.
 

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Respect all of this but will disagree somewhat with some of the things you said.

Bro they raised their daughter in public.

Always at award shows and on the red carpet like she has never been in school. They videotape and make docus about their relationship all the time.

As well as letting us know Jay cheated when no one would have ever known. I think this is a public relationship that benefits a new proud African-American image which is cool but it is what it is. They are about the spotlight.

Video of the fight with solange leaked they wouldn't have said shyt otherwise. And the blue thing yeah to en extent but not much really, they go the Grammys but what other award shows are they regularly at flaunting Blue all over the place?They have a tight knit group and it seems flooded with family which is a good thing and something others in entertainment could learn from.
 

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Video of the fight with solange leaked they wouldn't have said shyt otherwise. And the blue thing yeah to en extent but not much really, they go the Grammys but what other award shows are they regularly at flaunting Blue all over the place?They have a tight knit group and it seems flooded with family which is a good thing and something others in entertainment could learn from.

I can definitely understand the bolded. It's true.

Did you know they tried to sue a restaurant which had the name Blue Ivy established before their daughter but they said 'Blue Ivy' is showing an interest in fashion so would want to use that name. True story I thought that was very poor judgement of them. It made the papers.

Blue is constantly on the red carpet and at award shows and tour shows. She probably likes a little shine like most girls but perhaps they could also try to keep her away from the ill wishers and shot takers. I have read many harsh comments about their daughter totally out of line. In the stupid "Buzbee Case" which Jay is the man for squashing but in that case he mentioned 'He wants his children to be sheltered from the spotlight and etc'.

I don't know you can't have your cake and eat it too. Sort of thing to me, but I have always rated Jay's smart moves I don't think B is as smart though.

edit here is the story but it is not an isolated incident (DailyMail article but it's on any google search):

Beyonce can trademark daughter Blue Ivy's name after 12-year battle
 

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I can definitely understand the bolded. It's true.

Did you know they tried to sue a restaurant which had the name Blue Ivy established before their daughter but they said 'Blue Ivy' is showing an interest in fashion so would want to use that name. True story I thought that was very poor judgement of them. It made the papers.

Blue is constantly on the red carpet and at award shows and tour shows. She probably likes a little shine like most girls but perhaps they could also try to keep her away from the ill wishers and shot takers. I have read many harsh comments about their daughter totally out of line. In the stupid "Buzbee Case" which Jay is the man for squashing but in that case he mentioned 'He wants his children to be sheltered from the spotlight and etc'.

I don't know you can't have your cake and eat it too. Sort of thing to me, but I have always rated Jay's smart moves I don't think B is as smart though.

edit here is the story but it is not an isolated incident (DailyMail article but it's on any google search):

Beyonce can trademark daughter Blue Ivy's name after 12-year battle
They did not sue anyone lol
 

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I can definitely understand the bolded. It's true.

Did you know they tried to sue a restaurant which had the name Blue Ivy established before their daughter but they said 'Blue Ivy' is showing an interest in fashion so would want to use that name. True story I thought that was very poor judgement of them. It made the papers.

Blue is constantly on the red carpet and at award shows and tour shows. She probably likes a little shine like most girls but perhaps they could also try to keep her away from the ill wishers and shot takers. I have read many harsh comments about their daughter totally out of line. In the stupid "Buzbee Case" which Jay is the man for squashing but in that case he mentioned 'He wants his children to be sheltered from the spotlight and etc'.

I don't know you can't have your cake and eat it too. Sort of thing to me, but I have always rated Jay's smart moves I don't think B is as smart though.

edit here is the story but it is not an isolated incident (DailyMail article but it's on any google search):

Beyonce can trademark daughter Blue Ivy's name after 12-year battle

We rarely seen Blue prior to the last 3 yrs

Maybe 4, 5 times a yr she would pop up at the Grammys or be spotted by the paparazzi

And seems like dancing is a passion so why not involve her. Also helps to builds confidence and instills a strong work ethic

They seem to be doing a good job with her

We joke about Bey's intelligence or lack thereof but considering what's she's done with her career and who she has surrounded herself with think we've underestimated her ... especially if we compare her to some of her peers
 

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We rarely seen Blue prior to the last 3 yrs

Maybe 4, 5 times a yr she would pop up at the Grammys or be spotted by the paparazzi

And seems like dancing is a passion so why not involve her. Also helps to builds confidence and instills a strong work ethic

They seem to be doing a good job with her

We joke about Bey's intelligence or lack thereof but considering what's she's done with her career and who she has surrounded herself with think we've underestimated her ... especially if we compare her to some of her peers

I cant dispute any of this. You bring up some good points especially supporting her dancing passion and building confidence and work ethic.

B is super talented though not super smart, her decision have been a little off in recent years.

She was meant to be bigger than even Diana Ross but she started doubting and started imitating the low class promiscuous divas.

If she had just a little more foresight into her thinking, she would be flat out number one female musician of all time.

Jay can share some of the blame being real, he is at some faults for her shrinking starlight.
 
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