Jay-z shouldn't be considered top 10 DOA anymore

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yall are proving the OP's point for him you're not discussing any of his music because it sucks dikk and has no meaning - go on talking about his money and longevity though to hide that :pachaha:
How can you have his type of longevity without good music? We're not talking about Busta or Fat Joe longevity here, this is A list longevity. He's been selling out arenas since the 90s, you don't do that with bad music. And for the record I'm not the first person to mention his music in this thread, you're blatantly lying.
 

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How can you have his type of longevity without good music? We're not talking about Busta or Fat Joe longevity here, this is A list longevity. He's been selling out arenas since the 90s, you don't do that with bad music. And for the record I'm not the first person to mention his music in this thread, you're blatantly lying.
I had this argument with my older brother and cousins before and I was on your side, but they told me about Jay riding Kanye's coat tails and hopping onto the next hottest rapper whenever he came out to stay relevant. It made sense the way they were saying it
 

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I had this argument with my older brother and cousins before and I was on your side, but they told me about Jay riding Kanye's coat tails and hopping onto the next hottest rapper whenever he came out to stay relevant. It made sense the way they were saying it
:manny: he might hop on a wave or 2, but at the same time it helps those young guys out just as much if not more, jay putting kayne on bp2 in 02 was a good look for ye, being on his album 03 was also a good look for ye, as hopping on diamonds rmx was a good look, ripped that shyt and now most people only care about the rmx version since its the main one on the album

signed jeezy, ross and his cosign helped them both

signed cole

jay is drake favorite rapper, its not like jay bust into the studio on some busta shyt, im sure drake called him and asked him to be on his albums

tried to sign lupe and it didnt work out, but he still gave him a solid cosign by being on his album, and also trying to get him out the fukked up deal he in

people love to try and act like jay hop on everything hot, but act like he aint the bigger person and its helping the other artist more than its helping him


but nobody talks about nas(top 2 imo) jumping on damn near every YM album 2 years ago, or jumping on lil jon bandwagon or have luda on they shooting, the only person that cant work wit other artist is jay or else its gon be called dikk riding(even his own artist, or wife)
 
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Jays mainstream breakthrough was as Foxy's sidekick. Straight out the gates y'all we drop hits.

RD is classic, Blueprint is great. Outside of that his albums are mostly garbage. Had some great singles tho.
 

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Jay done enough to be top 10 to me. But he has fell of, hopefully he can regain his quality.
 

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I had this argument with my older brother and cousins before and I was on your side, but they told me about Jay riding Kanye's coat tails and hopping onto the next hottest rapper whenever he came out to stay relevant. It made sense the way they were saying it
Your fam is only giving you a negative POV, the fact is that those artists are waaaay more on Jays dik then Jay ever could be on theirs. Here are a few facts, it was Kanye who was fiending to be a part of Jays movement since Blueprint, fantasizing about working with Jay while attending the Hard Knock Life tour. It was T.I. who was wearing a "Reasonable Doubt" shirt on one of his early videos, Jeezy who was riding Jays coattails to award shows while Kurt Loder interviewed Jay and introduce him as "Lil Jeezy", Rick Ross who broke through the mainstream after signing under Jays Def Jam. Or how about how Lil Wayne has Jays lyrics tatted on his body and very recently called Jay the God, or Drake who says he'll cry when Jay dies and constantly bigs him up.

Even the newer cats like Kendrick calls Jay the "big homie", Meek Mills and 2 Chains have gone on record in interviews talking about their wish to get Jay Z on their latest albums, yet they want to convince you that Jay is the one riding coat tails? You don't have to search hard to know that's just not the truth, not the way 99% of the rap game praises Jay Z.
 

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The nicca lost every rap beef, countlessly gets destroyed on his own songs,is the poster boy for getting ethered,lets rats like haitian jack run in his pockets,leave clubs when he heard 2pac was in town,avoids beef, and last but not least has the weakest discography compared to the other Goats.


Jayz has zero substance...when people talk about Jayz it always starts and ends with his money .

Check the posts, people gonna talk about his money and not his music.

When we talk Pac, Nas and BIG or even Eminem (Yes.. Eminem..) we talk music !


Still be talking about "top 10....top 5.....blah blah" in 2014. Ball backwards brehs.
 

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Your fam is only giving you a negative POV, the fact is that those artists are waaaay more on Jays dik then Jay ever could be on theirs. Here are a few facts, it was Kanye who was fiending to be a part of Jays movement since Blueprint, fantasizing about working with Jay while attending the Hard Knock Life tour. It was T.I. who was wearing a "Reasonable Doubt" shirt on one of his early videos, Jeezy who was riding Jays coattails to award shows while Kurt Loder interviewed Jay and introduce him as "Lil Jeezy", Rick Ross who broke through the mainstream after signing under Jays Def Jam. Or how about how Lil Wayne has Jays lyrics tatted on his body and very recently called Jay the God, or Drake who says he'll cry when Jay dies and constantly bigs him up.

Even the newer cats like Kendrick calls Jay the "big homie", Meek Mills and 2 Chains have gone on record in interviews talking about their wish to get Jay Z on their latest albums, yet they want to convince you that Jay is the one riding coat tails? You don't have to search hard to know that's just not the truth, not the way 99% of the rap game praises Jay Z.

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Nothing but truth there. I'll never understand that dikkriding/riding coattails argument, when Hov is always the bigger artist in pretty much every case. Unless you are Eminem, how could he be using you to get hot, when he sells more than you?

Everybody else can work anybody else, and nothing gets said, but when he works with his own artists, wife, and cats that have praised him as their fav and the GOAT, it's dikkriding? Just plain stupid if you ask me.
 
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