Jay-z surpasses Tupac US sales.

[intilectual recipricol]

Pac is the GOAT... just stop it now.

Jay is that nicca though...

Wheres naS sales?

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Biggie's Life After Death went Diamond, that was the only album that truly did any number after he died. Born Again went 2x platinum, Duets went Platinum. Biggie's greatest hits didn't even go Gold in the US. Pac's Greatest Hit's went Diamond along with a lot of posthumously released albums that we're going multi platinum. If you want to call one album the same effect sure, but Biggie's death didn't keep people buying his albums after he died.

Puff aint have 200 unreleased big songs laying around.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

B stop taking those bath salts

Many credible sites have Pac numbers at 75 million i.e. Forbes. Imagine if Afeni's lazy ass would do the paper work for his album sales to give an updated sales figures.

imagine.......... AEOM @ 292292929X platinum M7DT @ diamond over 100 million sold

My nikka have you seen a Forbes rich list before? @ forbes being credible. Do you know what second hand data is? NOT CREDIBLE

It's a well known fact that Pac is over 100 million albums sold, you just dont do your research.. Let me do you a favor and send you to the reliable sources that are proven. You'll just have to do yourself a favor buy looking them up.

So 1 fact you should know, if you're any real kind of hip hop head because most people know this. In 2004 2 Pac was in the Guinness Book Of World Records for selling 75 Million worldwide(not only that but he had sold over 44 million in the US at the time, so Jay-z still losing here), keep in mind that this is 2004.

So if his official numbers are 75 million then and you count double disk as 2(if you know the rule for double albums then you'd know why they'd be counted as 2), he'd be a 107. Even if you didn't want to count them as 2 Jay would still be losing in the US by 14 Million, and world wide by 25 Million...

Refer to the bolded above sir

 

[Still Benefited]

I'll just quote something I posted before in another thread:

"That's how Jay-z managed to get 11 #1 albums in a row too. But people are acting like it's not an accomplishment that Pac got so many people to buy his albums after his death, like they were forced to or something. Like any other artist that died ever had enough quality material left for all their fans to buy millions of albums with new material. Once the quality drops below a certain point, people will stop buying except harcore collectors and you won't sell much. Pac's Life proved that point.

It's just a myth that Pac has sold into the dozens of millions because of the hype of his death. He sold that much because he worked so hard that there was enough quality material left for many albums to be released after his death and the target audience and fanbase that he had built during his lifetime (the same one that bought AEOM) bought all those albums. That's the exact same way that a living artist garners sales as well..

It's a myth that Pac started selling millions more after his death than during his lifetime. He had just reached a new level of fame during his lifetime and was about to sell more than he did with his first few albums with each new consecutive album. That's how all artists pre-internet and even now often get on. It's not usual to go multi-platinum on your debut. Snoop could sell that much because of his exposure on The Chronic. Eminem partly because of exposure from 2001 etc.
Just because Pac died right after he had reached a whole new audience for him to target, doesn't mean the hype of his death created those sales.

Here's a telling FACT: All Eyez On Me (released while he was alive) sold more in its first two months than did Killuminati in its first two months, and that's even taking into account that AEOM was a double album and only sold half of its certifications. You tell me what you're basing the claims of his hyped up sales on..
This happened much more with Biggie's LAD than with Pac's albums. I thought numbers didn't lie to you guys?"

Also, it's silly to compare Jay's first albums with Pac's first albums as they were released in different times and they came up in different ways. How 'bout just comparing Jay's peak years to Pac's sales then. Even when Pac was already dead he outsold Jay-z between 1996-2002 when Jay was peaking. Without being there to promote his albums, with material recorded years before and, again, without selling more per album than he already did with AEOM or was on pace to do (when compared to Greatest Hits), Pac still sold more cd's than Jay-Z during his glory years. Meanwhile Pac hasn't been able to release an album in years and Jay-Z still hasn't caught up with him.

Those numbers don't lie.

this got to be the best breakdown I've seen on the sales after death argument....we saw how quickly 50cent managed to lose 10 million fans through lack of quality but not promotion while he wuz still alive droppin new shyt.....All Pac really did wuz manage to peak right before he died with AEOM,then keep the fans that he gained happy with quality material.....everybody saw as the years went on and the quality went down he started to lose people willing to buy the album and probaly couldn't crackgold at this point because the quality isn't a guarantee like it once was....Pacs sales is a product of consistency not death....no difference as to why Jay is still selling,consitency.....y'all give people too little credit,u actually think they'll keep buyin wack albums from sumbody bcuz they dead?or that people will continue to buy wack Jay albums bcuz of promotional tricks? When your fanbase stops bein happy u go into the bushes......loyal to the game and pacs life I'm pretty sure has ruined the whole consistency thing for Pac and any new albums he may release,he's about in the bushes

And how do u explain aeom doin more numbers in its first weeks than 7DT if death is to get all the credit for pacs sales?

 

[TheGodling]

The only thing I want to see Jay surpassing at this point is his level of mediocrity.

 

[AlldayNE]

My nikka have you seen a Forbes rich list before? @ forbes being credible. Do you know what second hand data is? NOT CREDIBLE

Refer to the bolded above sir

So they world record book is not credible.... sure...

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

So it took Jay 18 years to do something 'Pac did in 6...

 

[Nomad1]

My nikka have you seen a Forbes rich list before? @ forbes being credible. Do you know what second hand data is? NOT CREDIBLE

Refer to the bolded above sir

Almost all internet searches from credible/reliable sites have him at 75 million WW. If the information was not credible nor reliable Forbes, WIkipedia, Biography, Janjo, Yahoo!, etc would have not listed those numbers. So yes it is credible.

 

[Nomad1]

Why would I refute something I know isn't true? Cuz some scorned stan on the net said I'm a cac and grew up in a trailer park I'm supposed to refute it? Fukk outta here

pac is a wakk ass rapper to me get over that shyt

So im a 2pac stan if im stating facts on Pac related ish? Ok, looks like imma have to "stan" Pac on the coli if thats the case.

Oh and you didn't refute the facts I stated (ignore the trailer trash and cac comments and look at the other parts about Pac). Im not trying to convince you to like Pac so that point you made is irrelevant.

Nice try shamwow.