Jay Z vs KRS-One (Poll)

[blackslash]

The "white boy" is the one that said Jay Z lmao. Your shyt makes NO sense lol..

nikka ur arbitrarily picking examples to counter my post

Im asking u what determines a real hip hop head?

And u keep ducking it

Im looking for concrete criteria on what makes a real hip hop head outside of their opinions they have on music

 

[The Ruler 09]

Real heads???

What criteria are u using to determine real heads??

And if u say its determined by their opinions u basically prove my point

People that clearly know what there talking about, love and live Hip Hop and have sufficient knowledge.

 

[The Ruler 09]

nikka ur arbitrarily picking examples to counter my post

Im asking u what determines a real hip hop head?

And u keep ducking it

Im looking for concrete criteria on what makes a real hip hop head outside of their opinions they have on music

LMFAO at me ducking any question you'd ask lol. I've answered your question lol.

 

[blackslash]

Wasn't talking about no-one in what post?. Show me the post you mean lol.

I said "wdf is real hip hop? the hipster white boys that listen to obscure artists?"

I didnt say "wdf is real hip hop? the hipster whiteboys that listen to KRS?"

Im asking a question so that u can give u concrete criteria on what determines a real hip hop head

 

[blackslash]

People that clearly know what there talking about, love and live Hip Hop and have sufficient knowledge.

and what makes u think all the people saying Jay dnt have these things?

The people that picked Jay in their mind know Jay is superior to KRS, love the genre of hip hop and have sufficient knowledge on the genre and all its sub genres

 

[The Ruler 09]

I said "wdf is real hip hop? the hipster white boys that listen to obscure artists?"

I didnt say "wdf is real hip hop? the hipster whiteboys that listen to KRS?"

Im asking a question so that u can give u concrete criteria on what determines a real hip hop head

No it ain't people that just listen to obscure artist. KRS was not an obsecure artist by the way, he sold a good amount of records before the PM Dawn controversy, even good numbers after that. Someone can be a head and have Jay Z as there GOAT, they just got to actually REALLY know other shyt too. People that listen to just Eminem and claim him as their GOAT aren't real Hip Hop heads.

 

[The Ruler 09]

and what makes u think all the people saying Jay dnt have these things?

The people that picked Jay in their mind know Jay is superior to KRS, love the genre of hip hop and have sufficient knowledge on the genre and all its sub genres

I never said all the people who said Jay don't have these things. At all, I said most of the reasons given were poor, some people even said they don't know KRS like that. And it's obvious anyway from what they are saying no matter what they say, at least FreshAG you can tell he's ACTUALLY knowledgeable about KRS's work, whether we agree or not, that's why he said you said the most incorrect thing in the entire thread.

 

[blackslash]

No it ain't people that just listen to obscure artist. KRS was not an obsecure artist by the way, he sold a good amount of record by the PM Dawn controversy, even good numbers after that. Someone can be a head and have Jay Z as there GOAT, they just got to actually REALLY know other shyt too. People that listen to just Eminem and claim him as their GOAT aren't real Hip Hop heads.

Are u knowledgable of all kinds of hip hop such as trap, drill etc.?

If not would it be fair to say ur knowledge isnt sufficient

 

[The Ruler 09]

Even Jay Z mentions KRS as one of the greats..

 

[The Ruler 09]

Are u knowledgable of all kinds of hip hop such as trap, drill etc.?

If not would it be fair to say ur knowledge isnt sufficient

I'm extremely knowledgeable, and actually I do go and check shyt I don't like often, just to hear it, see if there's any good beats, interesting flows, or just to see what the appeal, or marketing is.

 

[The Ruler 09]

 

[The Ruler 09]

And this is Jay's man. And someone who he was greatly inspired by, even down to his live shows.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Let's see what other knowledgeable heads say, how about let's say Scarface, again Jay's man too, done numerous work together...

"RAKIM
Scarface: The way that Rakim put words together is like no other.
AllHipHop.com: For the younger generation who may be unfamiliar with Rakim; which track do they really need to listen to? Do you remember what made you first gravitate towards him?
Scarface: Listen to [Eric B. & Rakim’s] “Follow The Leader.” The main said, “…A furified freestyle, lyrics of fury/ my third eye makes me shine like jewelry… [chuckles] goddam! N****s talk about chains; the man said his third eye makes him shine like jewelry!
KRS-ONE
AllHipHop.com: What about KRS makes him stand out amongst others?
Scarface: “Criminal Minded.” To me KRS-ONE had that pause—it picks back up—he had a swagger from that “Criminal Minded” album. You know, that was really our star.
KOOL G RAP
AllHipHop.com: What about Kool G Rap earned your respect?
Scarface: …He had a song called “Truly Yours”—and that’s really the best girl diss that I ever heard.
AllHipHop.com: [laughs]
Scarface: He dissed somebody and I was like, damn. [starts emceeing] “This I dedicate to the girl I hate…” [mimics the DJ Polo beat, uh uh uh uh uh uh] “This I dedicate to the girl I hate…” Man, that is a fantastic come line—
AllHipHop.com: You think it’s been timeless?
Scarface: It’s timeless. Yes, “Truly Yours”
ICE CUBE
AllHipHop.com: What made you become an Ice Cube fan?
Scarface: [starts reciting a verse from Cube’s “A Bird in the Hand”] “Fresh out of school I was a high school grad/ had to get a job because I was a high school dad…/ but there was no SC for this youngster/ I didn’t have no money /so I had to punch the clock…” That boy Cube is cold; that boy Ice Cube is sick!
AllHipHop.com: Which MC is your last pick?
Scarface: I really have to think about that last one. S***, of all time, you got to say LL Cool J, dawg.
AllHipHop.com: LL?
LL COOL J
Scarface: Yep! Top five of all time, you got to put LL in that top five of all time.
AllHipHop.com: Now, if there were a top 6:
NAS
Scarface: Nas. I think Nas is a bad motherf***er. "

 

[The Ruler 09]

Let's see what a Raekwon would say..

"I take real emcees serious, so I will definitely say, one is Rakim. Rakim is our Marvin Gaye of Hip-Hop.
Then you have Slick Rick. Just their albums that came out almost 20 years ago is still busting a lot of n*ggas a** today lyrically. I wouldn't even consider myself in the "Top Five" yet. I haven't put in any work yet. Them two... I like [Notorious] B.I.G. Definitely one that definitely had a lot of talent, he had that good voice.
Big Daddy Kane was crazy back then. His s**twas on fire. He has come with all different types of styles and flows. 'Cause see that's what I look at too. I don't look at a n***a just being able to rhyme and talk tough all day. I'm talking about literature on wax. s**tthat will be like "what he say?" Spitting that sh*t right back. I look at all that. One thing to me about being a real emcee is that you have to fit that role as being one of those n***as. All n***as are made to have their own style and charisma. B.I.G. had his own style, his own charisma. He was able to do R&B s**t, kill it and still come back to do the real s**t.
Always presenting his lyrics, always knowing how to write stories and dip in different things. So I look at all that. Rakim, Slick, B.I.G., Kane...
I got one for more... KRS-One. Lyrically, l said those names right there. That's why I picked them."

 

[The Ruler 09]

How about west coast?

Spice 1: Tupac, MC Ren, Ice Cube, KRS-One and Rakim