JermaineDupri weighs in on the conversation around A.I. artists, and asks how is it any different from Milli Vanilli, who was stripped of their Grammy

[Goat poster]

You're definitely right on the mark there. But it's also not unreasonable to imagine that people who aren't making those decisions (i.e. the consumer) might have a very different relationship/reaction to it.

It remains to be seen whether or not people will really respond to this stuff. I'd love to believe they won't, that it will be found to lack that special sauce that makes people connect to music--even explicitly commercialized music. But I admit that's potentially some woo woo ass thinking, and it's a fact that you'll never go too far wrong underestimating the public.

Many popular Youtubers tried to game the system already with AI doing all the work and many of them LOST HELLA SUBSCRIBERS

I'll see if I can find a link

People want connection with their art/entertainment

 

[Json]

Let me be more specific. I meant how is it different in goals and desires by those invested and with much to gain? For someone with their salary based on profit margin, it might as well be washing machine belts. On quarterly review calls it's a product. In board meetings the art you love is not regarded the same way. Unfortunately. The ONLY reason this wouldn't take off is if people don't click it and stream it and use it in Reels. It won't be because they had a change of heart and valued artistic integrity. The people making these decisions do not care about that.

This isn’t true. If people won’t pay for it then it won’t work. They still need to sell the product.

But the point JD was making is there was a disqualfying line in making money. Just like in any industry. if you are falsely advertising your product, you can’t just shrug it off like oh well.

So if we aren’t going by the old line then a new one will be created.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Many popular Youtubers tried to game the system already with AI doing all the work and many of them LOST HELLA SUBSCRIBERS

I'll see if I can find a link

People want connection with their art/entertainment

and many people gained thousands in a matter of a couple of weeks because of AI.

almost a million and I think this page is only 6 months old. I see a couple of celebrities subbed.

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I see Shaq of all people on sora everyday. not sure what he has planned but he's always making AI videos.

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_690986ade25c8191a06f8333e388dd26?psh=HXVzZXItSjlyTkc3SzdEQ21acjA4WFQ2d0lnTXoy.hEn2_IIbfqz_

 

[Json]

Music has been so devalued by consumers that these appeals to old school values and connections with music simply fall on deaf ears. Kids consume viral songs and move on, they don’t care about or worship stars the same way. Throw on a playlist and KIM, if most people aren’t gonna look up half the artists on a playlist, so streaming services and record companies can save a ton by not having an artist to pay. JD’s argument works for Gen X and millennials, but Gen Z and definitely Gen Alpha don’t have the same connection to nor standards for music. people need to stop acting surprised that a generation of people who’ll go to a concert to hear one viral song and not know the rest of an artists catalog will embrace AI music.

I agree with your generational critic. The era of artist as musical acts solely is over.

But I think what people are actually asking which no one seems to want to answer is ”what is the standard”

These Ai creators want to be paid for their work even if the overall cost of touring and promoting are gone. People still want compensation and AI isn’t making music by itself. So what is the standard for an Ai artist? For oldheads, Milli Vanilli was a line. Not that artist haven’t used other voices on songs but they didn’t credit themselves as the singer. So in an era of prompt what makes a song created by one Ai artist belonging to them vs someone else remixing that Ai song into something that actually does become popular.

 

[MajesticLion]

 

[Big Boss]

@Piff Perkins

It's over

 

[Piff Perkins]

I just hope people recognize that every step of the AI "music" farce has involved black music. Young Guru sounded the alarm years ago that tech companies were feeding John Coltrane records into AI in order to generate new music. Then when the tech was released to the public the IMMEDIATE focus was on creating rap songs (Biggie rapping New York State Of Mind, for instance). Then the first AI artist was designed as a black rapper (FN Meka) that was so offensive the label had to cancel it. Now the second major AI artist is an imitation of a black woman. At every single step this process has been focused on imitating and trivializing black art. That is not a coincidence.

 

[AQz]

On a serious note it’s kinda tough.

I’ll pose a different question. For those that use AI for the purposes of creating anything (image, content, code, video, etc..). Do you see that as different?

In other words. If the task you’re using ai for saves you the cost of paying a human. Do you feel that differs from this use case?

 

[Mugenight]

He's right and anyone who apparently doesn't see anything wrong with this is a clown.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

I just hope people recognize that every step of the AI "music" farce has involved black music. Young Guru sounded the alarm years ago that tech companies were feeding John Coltrane records into AI in order to generate new music. Then when the tech was released to the public the IMMEDIATE focus was on creating rap songs (Biggie rapping New York State Of Mind, for instance). Then the first AI artist was designed as a black rapper (FN Meka) that was so offensive the label had to cancel it. Now the second major AI artist is an imitation of a black woman. At every single step this process has been focused on imitating and trivializing black art. That is not a coincidence.

it literally does every single genre.

I went into chatgpt, and asked it to give me a prompt for a new genre. It basically came out with experimental.




I've done soundtrack music with it too. Classical mixed with haunting chinese vocals that sounded like Akira. It does EVERYTHING.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

it literally does every single genre.

I went into chatgpt, and asked it to give me a prompt for a new genre. It basically came out with experimental.




I've done soundtrack music with it too. Classical mixed with haunting chinese vocals that sounded like Akira. It does EVERYTHING.

Not to mention rap is just more creative, entertaining and popular than other genres, aint nobody paying attention the the hottest Jazz artist let alone the fake version

Hence products like rapgenius.com. go to a random pop song, there's absolutely nothing worth annotating

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Not to mention rap is just more creative, entertaining and popular than other genres, aint nobody paying attention the the hottest Jazz artist let alone the fake version

Hence products like rapgenius.com. go to a random pop song, there's absolutely nothing worth annotating

there is currently no rap song in the top 50. I didn't scroll past that, but I wouldn't be surprise if it's not in the top 100.

Kendrick's diss was the last creative rap song I've heard, and how long ago was that?

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

there is currently no rap song in the top 50. I didn't scroll past that, but I wouldn't be surprise if it's not in the top 100.

Kendrick's diss was the last creative rap song I've heard, and how long ago was that?

There was a rap song running the chart for the past 2 years before the rule change. Don't exclude that in your AI machine lol

 

[ChatGPT-5]

There was a rap song running the chart for the past 2 years before the rule change. Don't exclude that in your AI machine lol

ill look it up ..

anyways, just prompted this for the sudanese war, cause Im not hearing very many people talk about it.




Suno Instrumental Prompt:

Create a dark, emotional Amapiano instrumental inspired by Sudan’s civil conflict — deep African percussion, haunting atmosphere, and spiritual energy.
Mood: cinematic, serious, sorrowful, and powerful — evokes war, hope, and unity.
Instrumentation:

• Heavy log drum groove (slow rolling 110 BPM)
• Deep sub-bass and low pads for tension
• African shakers and conga percussion
• Talking drum accents and distant tribal chants (no lyrics)
• Soft piano chords and ambient strings symbolizing sadness
• Sparse Amapiano synths and airy reverb for depth

Structure:

• Intro: low ambient wind + subtle percussion build
• Drop: log drum + bass enter powerfully
• Bridge: emotional breakdown with piano and chanting hums
• Outro: fade out with drums and ambient voices echoing “Sudan”

going to prompt one for nigeria and DRC, possibly the atrocities happening in Libya as well.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

There was a rap song running the chart for the past 2 years before the rule change. Don't exclude that in your AI machine lol

just to double check: when you say “running the billboards for 2 years before the change”, do you mean a rap song that stayed on the Billboard Hot 100 chart for two whole years (or ~104 weeks) continuously, or one that had a very long run and then the chart rules changed?


The one closest I found is Not Like Us by Kendrick Lamar — it’s described as “the longest-charting rap song in Hot 100 history (53 weeks)”. Reddit+1
But 53 weeks is only about one year, not two.