Jerry Heller: Eazy-E Thought MC Ren Was the Best Rapper in NWA

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i like ren better then DOC


Doc was arguably one of the best actual talents in the history of rap.
Plus, real talk,...
The ice cube we love may have had help from del.
Once upon a time in the projects sounds mad del-ish.
Not to mention del changed his style all the way up when they fell off and only used that style sparingly and I would like to know why.

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Ren had everything but the mic presence, if you want to just look at the Straight Outta Compton album, Ren is the most consistent, Cube had the standouts

that said

Cube >>> Ren


Ren had excellent mic presence what are you talmebout.
Ren never had no issues with mic presence a day in his career.
Do you know what mic presence is?

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Doc was arguably one of the best actual talents in the history of rap.
Plus, real talk,...
The ice cube we love may have had help from del.
Once upon a time in the projects sounds mad del-ish.
Not to mention del changed his style all the way up when they fell off and only used that style sparingly and I would like to know why.

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Doc was kind of overrated to me...his delivery was dope tho
 

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Cube use to sound like a fukking nightmare on records. His voice alone when he rapped loud on songs was scary. Ren had a deep voice but it was more controlled. Cube just went the fukk off.


And I always thought Ren had more technical rap skills over Cube but Cube had more authority in his voice to bring you in to his world.


Cube got the chance to showcase he had the more accessible charisma than ren.
If ren got to make records like behind the scenes.
Like cube got to make solos like I ain't the one.
Starting with a bytch is a bytch,...
The perception would not be as skewed in error as it is now.
As ren was the actual better talent and right now ren would rip cube.
Plus, would have arguably always ripped cube.
It just so happened that cube was on the fukk a bytch bible record.
that is the creator of the fukk any and every bytch record.
So, his legacy in that goes further than ren.
Especially when a bytch is a bytch exists and then as a solo.
You can't fade me is all in ice cubes first three forays on wax.
When ren got to make these types of records on his own.
He had to culturally deal with the backlash of nwa and eazy/jerry admin issues with cube.
So, he never got to make that type of record without being affiliated with the losingest team in rap.history after cube dissed nwa.
Now, fan sentiment let him off the hook.
So, he was not Jerry, easy or dre in perception.
Yet and still, ren still did.not get to make the succession and progression of holy bible fukk a bytch any bytch records.
cube got to make.
Plus, why cube lives in enfamy.
regardless of the faking jax on Westside connection.
That, ruined the source and damaged all of the culture being put into print since 1993.

The possible del gw rumors, that existed.
since you pulled out the amerikkka's most wanted j card with del and the lench mob's name on it.
Then, elevated as soon as I wish my brother George was here had pr.
So, since cube supplied the holy grail to let you know how to say a bytch was a bytch.
Plus, supplied the rubrick on how to make a high selling gangsta rap album.
That ends with deadhomies.
That has Been copied from kill at will.
since it was released as industry standard in the most boring cliche possible. When making a gangsta rap album on any major.
He conviently gets a number of passes and sentiment.
that ren will never get the similar general benefit from like cube.


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Doc was kind of overrated to me...his delivery was dope tho


Doc was as good as rakik, my dude.
If he never was in that accident,...oh sheit,...

Plus, he used to get vintage dre sample based shyt.
The old sell a million movie tickets based sample based dre production.
Which was arguably the most pop accessible music in rap history.
Plus, real talk should be ranked high as one of the best gateway pop produced styles of music in all music history, too.

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im talking about in comparison to cube :francis:


They both had grade a hall of fame mic presence.
There is never a fall off in how visciously skilled in mic presence ren is to cube on any nwa record.
There was never a contrast when ren and cube spit.
When ren and cube spit together.
You were hearing two of the best skilled emcees when you heard nwa.
There is no falloff in intangibles including mic presence when ren or cube jumped on a track.

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Burglary, definition is jack'n......

Ren was murdering shyt on an otherworldly level and that is what made nwa the world's most dangerous group, too.
You weren't getting no weak ass group of weak core members.
Ren and cube were as good as you could get when they debuted.


Cube never had a moment on ren mic presence wise.
Similar to how jayz caught jaz and sauce on bring it on, mic presence wise.

Jay : Spit with wisdom of a young bobby deniro

That is a clear advantage in mic presence moment..cube never had no moments like that to ren.
 

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They both had grade a hall of fame mic presence.
There is never a fall off in how visciously skilled in mic presence ren is to cube on any nwa record.
There was never a contrast when ren and cube spit.
When ren and cube spit together.
You were hearing two of the best skilled emcees when you heard nwa.
There is no falloff in intangibles including mic presence when ren or cube jumped on a track.

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Burglary, definition is jack'n......

Ren was murdering shyt on an otherworldly level and that is what made nwa the world's most dangerous group, too.
You weren't getting no weak ass group of weak core members.
Ren and cube were as good as you could get when they debuted.

agreed :ehh:
 

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It's not a controversial statement. I always felt Ren was the best pure emcee of the group. Cube was a better writer though.
 
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well ren wasnt better than cube during straight outta compton but he improved drastically from straight outta compton to nikkaz4life, idk if it was cuz cube left and he had more of a load to carry or what but its not far fetched to say he was a better rapper at that point considering he spearheaded the better nwa album:mjpls:(my opinion dont quote me stfu:pacspit:)

and yea I know bbbut cube made amw and death certificate idc:camby:
 

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They really weren't tho. Ren not even above DOC let alone Cube.

Some people would argue DOC is better than Cube,Cant say its not arguable prime for prime:patrice:?DOC is slightly better than Ren at everything,plus had the delivery and better voice:wow:.....I still gotta take Cube though musically.
 
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