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Because a 14 year old in Arkansas, in the 50s was a racist? Just by having a racist dad would make you a racist back then. But then you grow up.

It’s like judging Jay-z on the basis of not what he’s become. But that as a 14 year old he shot his brother and poisoned our community.

The thing with faux militants is that in reality they aren’t even militant enough to not watch an NFL or stop buying gear associated with the nfl :yawn:

Just simple clicks on like buttons and words on Twitter that doesn’t affect your life in any type of way. :russell:


No, because there are no black owners in any of the major sports outside of MJ. And the ones that try get shot down every attempt they make to purchase a franchise. Because as I stated...... they don't want us at the table with them. Are you going to say that they do want us shoulder to shoulder with them??

Also because that 14 year old is now the most well known owner in American sports and still reeks of being a bigot.

Are you calling me a faux militant or just speaking in generalities? I don't mind either way, curious as to if that one post made you jump to that conclusion.


Let me find out you are just a Jay stan and wanted to protect your guy. :heh:
 

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No, because there are no black owners in any of the major sports outside of MJ. And the ones that try get shot down every attempt they make to purchase a franchise. Because as I stated...... they don't want us at the table with them. Are you going to say that they do want us shoulder to shoulder with them??

Also because that 14 year old is now the most well known owner in American sports and still reeks of being a bigot.

Are you calling me a faux militant or just speaking in generalities? I don't mind either way, curious as to if that one post made you jump to that conclusion.


Let me find out you are just a Jay stan and wanted to protect your guy. :heh:
How am I protecting Jay when you are the one saying that he won't become an owner due to racism. :dahell:

And I'm talking about in general as showcased in this thread amongst other places.
 

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How am I protecting Jay when you are the one saying that he won't become an owner due to racism. :dahell:

And I'm talking about in general as showcased in this thread amongst other places.

Bet.

So are you ready to state that one of these uber rich entertainers are going to own a NFL team? You believe the other NFL owners will vote for one of these rappers or movie stars or other kind of black entertainers into an ownership role?
 

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Bet.

So are you ready to state that one of these uber rich entertainers are going to own a NFL team? You believe the other NFL owners will vote for one of these rappers or movie stars or other kind of black entertainers into an ownership role?
I do believe they will let someone who is ready to throw up the billions needed.

Puff, Jay and Will Smith would have to throw up their combined net worth and be left with zero to buy the cheapest team in the league, out in Ohio according to the latest valuations. Inflation in billionaire products has been wild for some time.

The two latest buyers of NFL teams are David Tepper, one of the richest hedge fund guys ever. And the Walmart family, one of the richest families ever.


So even if Goodell is Hitler himself, Puff or Jay need to upgrade their stacks and then want to spend it all before that's even a relevant factor.
 
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I do believe they will let someone who is ready to throw up the billions needed.

Puff, Jay and Will Smith would have to throw up their combined net worth and be left with zero to buy the cheapest team in the league, out in Ohio according to the latest valuations. Inflation in billionaire products has been wild for some time


Its not about money, I don't believe you to be naive enough to buy that. Its status as well. These are generational wealth creators we are talking about. There are non black folks who have 10x the combined wealth of Puff, Jay and Will, who aren't selected to be one of the 32.


Check that link and see how these owners ended up getting their money and then their teams. There is tech money, oil money, inheritance, wall street money and mob ties. These are people who can make a billi in a year, not just "worth" that according to Forbes.

I applaud you for being optimistic that one of them will be let in, but I can't share that optimism.

Buying the cheapest team in Ohio isn't all that easy either, whether by money, history or familial ties.


Cincinnati Bengals: Mike Brown​

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Owner Since: 1991

The Numbers: Mike Brown took over the Bengals after his father’s death in 1991. The team is worth an estimated $990 million.

Total Control: Mike Brown works as the general manager of the Bengals, and is one of only two owners in the NFL to do so. The Cowboys’ Jerry Jones is the other, which doesn’t help Brown in deflecting any criticism that he’s a control freak.

How He Got Rich: Mike Brown’s father, Paul Brown, was the namesake and first coach of Ohio’s other team, the Browns. He went on to co-found and own the Bengals before leaving the team to his son. Like the Halas family, the Browns’ money comes from football. Should football one day cease to exist, the Browns would be penniless and confused, wandering through the Midwest wondering where their publicly-funded stadiums and fortune went. Luckily for them, football has continued to exist and looks relatively stable.

Cleveland Browns: Jimmy Haslam​

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Owner Since: 2012

The Numbers: In 2012, Jimmy Haslam bought the Cleveland Browns from Randy Lerner for a reported $1 billion.

Serial Buyer: Haslam had to sell a minority interest in the Pittsburgh Steelers that he held since 2008 in order to buy the Browns. NFL rules state that owners aren’t allowed to have ownership stakes in multiple teams. In fact, that’s pretty much the only rule the NFL has for its owners.

How He Got Rich: Jimmy Haslam is the CEO of the Pilot Flying J truck stop company, a nationwide chain founded by his father. Pilot Flying J is the largest such company in the country and sells more over-the-road diesel fuel than anyone else. Haslam and Pilot Flying J are currently under federal investigation for allegedly scheming customers and shortchanging them on fuel rebates.
 

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The two latest buyers of NFL teams are David Tepper, one of the richest hedge fund guys ever. And the Walmart family, one of the richest families ever.


So even if Goodell is Hitler himself, Puff or Jay need to upgrade their stacks and then want to spend it all before that's even a relevant factor.


Not too sure what Goodell has to do with purchasing a team. I'll assume you said it for effect, no harm no foul.


During the Dan Snyder fiasco, NFL owners were likened to the mafia.

Twenty-four of the 32 NFL owners must approve the transaction. A buyer and a seller may agree on a final price, but the deal can’t be finalized until approved by other members.

The NFL, after all, isn’t a private company. It’s a glamorized trade association, financially supported by its 32 members. It’s an exclusive club that even the world’s richest don’t get the chance to be part of. So, if you build the relationships and understand the process, you can join too. Just don’t forget the cheddar.

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Does that sound like something that black entertainers can be a part of? Rappers no less?
 

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Its not about money, I don't believe you to be naive enough to buy that. Its status as well. These are generational wealth creators we are talking about. There are non black folks who have 10x the combined wealth of Puff, Jay and Will, who aren't selected to be one of the 32.


Check that link and see how these owners ended up getting their money and then their teams. There is tech money, oil money, inheritance, wall street money and mob ties. These are people who can make a billi in a year, not just "worth" that according to Forbes.

I applaud you for being optimistic that one of them will be let in, but I can't share that optimism.

Buying the cheapest team in Ohio isn't all that easy either, whether by money, history or familial ties.
I don't see how you are disputing what I am saying, they don't have the money.
You are saying they don't own a team due to this and that, but you are completely neglecting the fact that they don't have the most important thing -- enough money. You are also assuming that everyone wants to put up 4-5 billion cash for an average football team.


They let a loud "brown looking" muslim in, but he also made a bid. So until someone makes a bid, I'd assume that they'd let him/her in.
 
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Not too sure what Goodell has to do with purchasing a team. I'll assume you said it for effect, no harm no foul.


During the Dan Snyder fiasco, NFL owners were likened to the mafia.





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Does that sound like something that black entertainers can be a part of? Rappers no less?
Yes, the last part is factual that they don't have the cheese.

As for Goodell, he's practically speaking the owners co-ordinator/liaison/ambassador.

So of course he has a lot of power, even if it's just by a weak employee contract.
 

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I don't see how you are disputing what I am saying.

They let a loud "brown looking" muslim in, but he also made a bid. So until someone makes a bid, I'd assume that they'd let him/her in.


Brown businessman, not black entertainer.

Flex-N-Gate is now the sole bumper manufacturer for Toyota, and made $4.5 billion in 2014 alone.


These situations, people and bank accounts are not the same.

Once again, kudos to you for being optimistic. I believe we can leave this discussion alone now.
 
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