
self reliant kids...90 lb soldiers...13 year old mothers...if a kid knows what fun is they will pick that over having the responsibility an adult has...adults can and will exploit a child that has to do for self...child labor laws make sense...aint no kid trying to sell lemonade 40 hrs a week...and the people that will be teaching kids these skills are
adults...would you choose a 12 yr old pilot or a pilot that has being flying planes for 30+ years?...
True. Fun is a much better choice, but sometimes that choice isn't on offer.
As for your pilot example though, a better question would be do you prefer a 14 year old pilot that has been flying for 2 years or a 30 year old pilot that has been flying for 2 months.
That question can better assess whether you value experience or merely social norms.
Age is not the prized factor in my determination, but rather experience. I would prefer the more experienced pilot whether he be 12, 25, or 50.
And yeah, nobody is tryna sell lemonade 40 hours a week... I agree. But people do,
cause they have to.
There is this lemonade spot in the mall down here called 'Hotdog on a stick' and they make corndogs. And the chicks that work there look so sad... crushing ice for lemonade with stupid hats on... but thats life. 40hrs a week making lemonade cause they gotta eat.
So I'm happy that many kids don't go down that road. But thats not my point. My point is, just because a person is 13 or 14 or whatever, doesn't mean they can't be a a competent and capable mother or soldier or pilot or anything else. The age is not usually as relevant as the experience, training, and access.
In cultures where 12 year old boys learn to hunt, thats just what it is. They all learn it. They all get it. They are explained what to do and guided when they mess up, and te society as a whole becomes competent hunters at 12.
If we lowered the driving age to 13 for example, kids would all learn to drive by 13. Thats just what it would be. They don't how currently cause we want it that way. Same as how durring slavery the whites would say 'blacks can't read' but thats because they made it against the law and punished blacks for attempting to learn, and hid the information from them. Its the same thing.

You're advocating for pedo and ephebophila.
And child soldiers

Get that weak-ass "I've travelled..." BS out of here.
Children who are subject to military services suffer even worse conditions than adults when they are finally released.
There are plenty of self-reliant children in the US, you seem incredibly out of touch with the youth of today.
13-year old motherhood means the girl got raped by a much older guy and is now trapped in servitude with a child.

GTFOH.
I'm not advocating for
anything. I was clearing up a common misconception.
First, pedophilia is pre-pubescence. So you can set that asside, completely.
It you read any of what I explained you would understand why attraction to pre-pubescent girls (or post menopausal older women) is abnormal in young healthy males. Asside from the degenerate nature, my problem with it is unsuited for reproduction so serves no real purpose except to fulfill some sort of hedonistic desire. Its frivoulous.
You are of course incorrect in believing that young mothers all accross the world were raped by an older guy. Thats just a complete lack of cultural exposure.
But as for whether they consider themselves trapped in servitude with a child... perhaps many do. I imagine some do, surely. But that feeling is not due to age. Many adult women feel trapped by the responsibility a child thrusts upon them.
Most, in fact. They have done studies. Whether a person is taking care of another person, feels as though they must go into work everyday, or is legally required to go to school everday... its all the same feeling of being trapped. Feeling trapped is inescapable for many. The world is harsh.
You misrepresent my meaning in discussing teen mothers and child soildiers though. I didn't at all imply that they have good or desirable lives or that they are happy. Merely that age did not dictate competance.
I don't wish for anyone to be a soldier or a mother/father if they do not wish to be. Often times the young are preyed upon by the old to fill these roles much as the poor are preyed upon to fill these roles in place of the rich. Its a power dynamic. Not because kids are stupid or inferior, but because children constitute an underclass of society. They have less rights than everyone else.
Even know we are debating what they should and should not be allowed to do. Parents ownership of children is largely inline with how slavery was. Even down to communal discipline. Just like you could disipline another person's slave, you can approach a kid in the street and tell them 'stop doing that' or 'where is your mom(master)' and a bunch of other stuff and they are essentially required to be subserviant and answer or oblige merely because you are older. Its crazy when you think about it... but I'm done talking about it.
So to recap:
Don't fukk kids.
Don't make child soldiers.
Those things are bad.
Its ridiculous I have to say that... but people keep missing the point.