Jesus: "I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

[Still Benefited]

The elect are those who are saved through Christ. If there are remnants of the original chosen out there, are they not saved through their faith in Christ or are they not in need of Christ in order to be saved?



I agree with the rest of what you said though.



Not at all. I am saying Jesus is G-d's Word.



Explain further, please.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God,”


Any of us can be "the word" if we are of the chosen who become the christ conscience. The word is the spirit of the God that was here before Jesus,and who Jesus said he would send after he left. If Jesus is the only mediator,than who is "the helper"? Its the spirit of God that was here in the beginning and always will be. "Jesus" if he was real was just a man who reached the level of christ conscience who spoke on Gods behalf on authority of the spirit. When he speaks in the bible he is talking as though he is God. Because once you reach that level of Christ Conscienceness there is no seperation. Seperation is an illusion once you truly reach that level

 

[MMS]

CLARITY*

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[MMS]

The elect are those who are saved through Christ. If there are remnants of the original chosen out there, are they not saved through their faith in Christ or are they not in need of Christ in order to be saved?



I agree with the rest of what you said though.



Not at all. I am saying Jesus is G-d's Word.



Explain further, please.

from the moment of Jesus birth he is under the paradigm of the "spies"

and the "inhabitants" of the land are seeking to set fire to the houses...

so regardless what is said in the bible, Jesus is at odds with everyone because of the Angel of the LORD's message

return when all who seek the young child's life are dead.

so by default that means everyone who Jesus interacts with in the gospels should be deceased (including Jesus Barabbas),,,which is ultimately why the Jews demanded he be let go

This is why the Greeks in their liturgy say "I am a witness to your two comings". And they continuously rehearse it

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 1 - King James Version

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab...

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Matthew 1:1

1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Does it not imply he has two fathers? Or are the Greeks saying that David is Abraham and God did say: that the covenant was with Abraham because of his seed Isaac who would bring forth Jacob and ultimately Israel. God's firstborn

Exodus 4:22 Hebrew Text Analysis

 

[Taadow]

Jesus meant that his message and principles would cause division and persecution from non-believers and by aligning yourself with Jesus, you will face oppression and opposition from family members, friends and even your spouse because spiritually speaking, you will have almost nothing in common with them anymore because you are in the world, but not apart of it. John 17:14-16

As soon as I got saved and became Christian I literally had a very close family member of mine (we literally been through everything together and we always had each others back) switch up on me overnight and we became enemies for a while.

Yeah. OP you’re making it sound more complicated than it is.

Jesus was saying that despite his message/lifestyle being peaceable, people are not generally peaceable so they won’t be wit’ it.

And that is why (as OP said) he didn’t find common ground with the people of his day; most of the Jews (including his close followers)
thought the Messianic agenda was going to be immediate liberation from The Romans and independent Israel again (just as they do to this day) - and they weren’t trying to hear about anything but that.

So when Jesus comes and says things like:

- his Kingdom is no part of The World
- it’s not your business to know when God is going to act, just be ready
- Samartians can be your neighbor
- treat them other people the way you want them to treat you
- the traditions you have holding onto for all these years are extra

…then of course the average everyday Jew isn’t going to want to hear that. They will think that is c00nery.
He was saying they best expect that from jump street. All the more reason they were gonna have to “carry a torture stake” like him.

 

[Turtle]

Worship the white mans religion

 

[MMS]

He was saying they best expect that from jump street. All the more reason they were gonna have to “carry a torture stake” like him.

this may sound strange

but have you ever contemplated that he wants other people to carry a torture stake?

Its along the lines of why the Romans crucified all the gladiators along Appian Way after the slave revolt

they werent just people, they were the stories of conquered neighbors. So what they did was like a perverse shamanism that few will ever truly understand

IE think of it this way

if God spoke and reality came into being, if say God had food in his mouth when he spoke, could the food also claim to be a partial parent to his words?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/we-are-living-in-a-world-of-illusion.824646/page-33#post-44351481

 

[Rozay Oro]

I don't ascribe to every Christian custom. So, just because you grew up in a church and saw/heard other Christians of the faith not saying "G-d" or using a placeholder for His "name" doesn't mean Christians don't say that. We are all different, all have our own reasoning for things, but we align on what matters.

Whether some of us choose to spell out G-d or use a different reference point as opposed to the name itself, is not something that is important or exemplifies ignorance. It is just a quirk.

You can’t pick and choose, that’s how heresies are formed.
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