Jill Stein isn't sorry

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Folks really acting like she even put up a true fight. She didnt capitalize off of the perfect opportunity and yet still she's demonized when folks really ran a close race against Donald Trump. Honestly, who cares about Jill Stein?
 

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Folks really acting like she even put up a true fight. She didnt capitalize off of the perfect opportunity and yet still she's demonized when folks really ran a close race against Donald Trump. Honestly, who cares about Jill Stein?
People usually draw to the fact that the amount of votes she received was almost the exact amount it would have taken for Hillary to defeat Trump. While based in real numbers, it doesn't particularly hold it's weight because it removes the human element of voting.

That aside, why should she be sorry for running for president? She did what she wanted. She always knew she wasn't going to win. :yeshrug:
 

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People usually draw to the fact that the amount of votes she received was almost the exact amount it would have taken for Hillary to defeat Trump. While based in real numbers, it doesn't particularly hold it's weight because it removes the human element of voting.

That aside, why should she be sorry for running for president? She did what she wanted. She always knew she wasn't going to win. :yeshrug:
I'm not even sure if it makes it out to being a Hillary victory tbh. All i remember was folks mentioning Gary Johnson voters going to Hillary too. shyt's obnoxious.
There's always gonna be third party votes. Just like h
 

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What does she have to be sorry for? A lot of things indicate she had no real effect on the outcome of the election.

natesilver (Nate Silver, editor in chief): I don’t really buy it. And the rub is Pennsylvania, which was close but not that close. You have to assume that almost all of Stein’s voters would have gone to Clinton. But both pre-election polls and the national exit poll suggests that a lot of them wouldn’t have voted at all, if they’d been forced to pick between the two major candidates. The breakdown might have been something like 35 percent Clinton, 10 percent Trump and 55 percent wouldn’t vote. That doesn’t wind up netting very many votes for HRC.

Jill Stein: Democratic Spoiler Or Scapegoat?

But there are a couple of snags to the “third-party votes did it” argument. Firstly, it assumes that a lot of voters’ second choice was Clinton. There’s little evidence that was true. Most polls – which, it turns out were deeply flawed – simply asked: “Who would you vote for if the election were held today?” Rarely was there a follow-up question of: “And who would you vote for if you didn’t vote for that candidate?”

There are three other possibilities besides choosing Clinton as a second choice candidate:

1. Those voters might have chosen a different third-party candidate. For example, Johnson voters might have switched to Stein, or vice versa. If so, that would have had no effect on Trump’s chances of winning.

2. Those voters might have chosen to stay at home rather than vote for someone who wasn’t their first choice. If so, they again wouldn’t have changed Trump’s victory over Clinton – except to make it even larger as a share of all votes cast.

3. Those voters might have chosen Trump as their second-choice candidate. If so, they not only would have secured Trump as the winner of the national popular vote, they could have also bumped up his electoral college votes by claiming Democratic states like Virginia, Minnesota, Colorado and New Hampshire, where Clinton won by a smaller number of votes than those cast for third-party candidates.

In reality, it’s some combination of all of the above. Some third-party voters could have chosen to stay at home, some could have voted for Clinton, and some for Trump. (People don’t act in perfect herds. If pollsters had better understood that, perhaps they wouldn’t have got this election so badly wrong.)

Except that third-party voters didn’t do any of those things. They put their crosses against the name of a candidate they almost certainly knew would not become their next president. Which suggests a strength of feeling that renders all hypothetical “what ifs” a little redundant.

Did third-party candidates Jill Stein and Gary Johnson lose Clinton the election?
 

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I ain't dodging shyt faggit. Name the terms and let's do it.
1 month for anyone in his campaign being arrested for any Russian related investigation or obstruction of such.

If it's 2 people then it's two months, 3 people 3 months etc.

If Trump himself is impeached or does not complete his term 6 months. This will be added in addition to any other people.

If nothing comes of it all.

I'll eat the 6 month ban.


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