Jimi Hendrix Styled on Eric Clapton

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If Clapton is a glorified tribute act, then so are hip hop producers

Im not the biggest fan but his work in the late 60s is pretty crazy.

How? Sampling isn't the same as copying chords. In fact, it's totally opposite in philosophy. The only people doing the latter is Pharrell and Tyler, The Creator.
 

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The only reason White people got to advance Rock to the next stage is because they had the resources we didn't.

That's definitely true. The Rolling Stones and the Beatles actually went to Little Richard and Chuck Berry to personally learn Rock N Roll. But later on (like after the 60's) I truly think the music just stopped appealing to black people. It's kind of like how all those backpack nerd Def Jux types keep trying to revive boom bap but it's had it's time and should RIP as far as most black fans are concerned.
 

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How? Sampling isn't the same as copying chords. In fact, it's totally opposite in philosophy. The only people doing the latter is Pharrell and Tyler, The Creator.
Theyre taking what they like most in a piece of music and expanding on it.
 

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That's definitely true but later on (like after the 50's) I truly think the music just stopped appealing to black people. It's kind of like how all those backpack nerd Def Jux types keep trying to revive boom bap but it's had it's time and should RIP to most black fans.

The CACs were smart and stole Rock from blacks when it was in its infant stages. Imagine if CACs stole Hip Hop before RUN DMC made an impact in the mid 80s, or that X-Clan was never formed?
 
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We didn't have an Abbey Roads, tons of psychedelics and music theory teachers or the economic freedom to spend endless hours trying to innovate something we created :yeshrug:
I think black music was pretty limited creatively in the 60s. Cause you had to go through the Motown system or Stax (in the late 60s), and fit a very specific blueprint
by the early 70s though shyt was poppin :salute:

But at the same time you cant just be like "white people took this creative niche that we had the right to"

Dope music is dope music. Its not like if black people were focused on Rock music, someone as supremely talented as Eric Clapton would be "working at Mcdonald's" (as Youtube commenters love to say:russ:)
 

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I think black music was pretty limited creatively in the 60s. Cause you had to go through the Motown system or Stax (in the late 60s), and fit a very specific blueprint
by the early 70s though shyt was poppin :salute:

But at the same time you cant just be like "white people took this creative niche that we had the right to"

Dope music is dope music. Its not like if black people were focused on Rock music, someone as supremely talented as Eric Clapton would be "working at Mcdonald's" (as Youtube commenters love to say:russ:)

Yeah, I wasn't trying to diminish what Whites did for Rock. It's a White art form, just hate when I hear people using Beatles, Rolling Stones, etc as a tool to put down Blacks without contextualizing the socio-economic realities at that time which factored in heavily.
 

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Yeah, I wasn't trying to diminish what Whites did for Rock. It's a White art form, just hate when I hear people using Beatles, Rolling Stones, etc as a tool to put down Blacks without contextualizing the socio-economic realities at that time which factored in heavily.

Black people aren't given enough credit for later Rock innovations too. Jimi Hendrix has got to be among, if not the most influential rock guitarist of all time, and Bad Brains and Death did a lot for the punk rock movement.
 

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Black people aren't given enough credit for later Rock innovations too. Jimi Hendrix has got to be among, if not the most influential rock guitarist of all time, and Bad Brains and Death did a lot for the punk rock movement.

I'm not saying we didn't provide a huge amount but I'd definitely give White people that music form. It's okay, we have so many others that we don't have to hoist that one up. That's the beauty of being a race that continually creates and innovates.
 

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I'm not saying we didn't provide a huge amount but I'd definitely give White people that music form. It's okay, we have so many others that we don't have to hoist that one up. That's the beauty of being a race that continually creates and innovates.

Oh for sure. I consider Rock to be white at this point as well.

Most likely no one would even bother saying "Rock was originally black" or variations of that, if whites didn't keep it relevant for so many years. It would have probably died out years ago, never to be mentioned again otherwise.
 
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