jimmy jam & terry lewis have played a big role in janet's success. how bout wendy & lisa w/ prince?

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now prince did release sign o the times after he broke up the revolution however that album was already in the works before he fired wendy and lisa and a lot of those songs dated back a few years so he had shyt on deck already. but after that album prince started a slow decline with his artistry and slowly new jack swing became the new cool thing and prince while still prince was more of yesterday news in a way when you had guys like bobby brown with don't be cruel, new edition with heartbreak, keith sweat, al b. sure, guy, babyface etc all takin' over

sure, prince is a legend and continued to have a career and in regards to wendy and lisa they were always goin' to be the musicians in his band and that's that. but you have to wonder, just how important and influential they really were to him (and they were because where he was limited in music and lookin' for new shyt to be inspired to, they came in and offered ideas and even put him onto some music) because once they were shown the door, there was a change in his music and those years of prince crankin' out straight masterpieces came to a halt. sure, he had hits post revolution but not like he had with them :whew:

i was just listenin' to this song of wendy and lisa's and was thinkin' bout this :yeshrug:


They werent shyt without prince so they were great collaboraters at best.
 
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They werent shyt without prince so they were great collaboraters at best.

he continued on with various hits but none quite like when he was with them and the rest of the revolution though
prince in the 90's was very hit and miss and even basic at times
i agree with you in that, lisa and wendy didn't do much of anythin' hit wise without him and they were great collaborators though
 

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he continued on with various hits but none quite like when he was with them and the rest of the revolution though
prince in the 90's was very hit and miss and even basic at times
i agree with you in that, lisa and wendy didn't do much of anythin' hit wise without him and they were great collaborators though
THey're a good muse. Inspirational.
 

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because i put it here and we've had other prince threads here before too and it wasn't a problem:childplease:

So you figured: "why don't I use Prince as a jump-off point to continue spamming The Booth with non-hip hop material?"

What do 2 semi-obscure cacs who made pop and rock have to do with The Booth? :jbhmm:

I get that you're a pretend hip-hop fan with cursory knowledge who mostly listens to non-hip hop, but is there a chance you could stop making it so obvious?
 
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So you figured: "why don't I use Prince as a jump-off point to continue spamming The Booth with non-hip hop material?"

What do 2 semi-obscure cacs who made pop and rock have to do with The Booth? :jbhmm:

I get that you're a pretend hip-hop fan with cursory knowledge who mostly listens to non-hip hop, but is there a chance you could stop making it so obvious?

you a class act troll, it's a shame you don't get paid for this shyt lol
 
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@stomachlines

can you elaborate on Wendy and Lisa's roles? What did they have to do with the 1999 and Purple Rain albums?

they helped prince expand his horizons with his music
for the music that prince wasn't too much up on, they put him onto. whether it be old shyt or new shyt (for that time) because you gotta remember prince was workin' like a mad man back then and constantly in the studio. so they helped put him onto an assortment of music that he wasn't already up on even though obviously he had quite a wide spectrum of knowledge bein that his dad was musician and his mom was a singer as was both lisa and wendy's parents
it's like wendy said, "he was hungry for influences to take him further, so he relied heavily on me and lisa to guide him in the directions he couldn't think of himself"

shyt, prince even said this to mtv back in the day, "it's true that i record very fast. it goes even quicker now that the girls help me"

a few of several songs wendy and lisa helped out on are raspberry beret, when doves cry, mountains, pop life, let's go crazy, i would die 4 u, and purple rain

wendy song on the song free, on the 1999 album and lisa contributed vocals as well on that album

shyt, prince had paid for a 3 day studio session at sunset sound for lisa's brother's birthday. he (lisa's brother) used those 3 days and recorded a demo tape with wendy's brother and then they gave the demo to both lisa and wendy. lisa and wendy gave it to prince because they were in awe of how good it was because of the different instruments and sounds on it. the demo tape had a song on it titled "around the world in a day". with lisa's brother's permission, prince re-recorded the song as the title track for his next album ("around the world in a day") and started workin' on it right away and whenever he had the time to because he was still tourin' and workin' on sheila e's album
 
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@Mowgli you know one thing i just remembered? lisa and wendy have been very successful in their work with scores. i don't think their intentions were ever to be superstars so their callin' card was always gonna be playin' the background more than anythin'. so in a lot of ways, they continued to do their thing after prince

their albums were gonna be what they were because they weren't "stars" in the way that prince was but they were more so suited behind the scenes which is why they've done really well for scores for tv shows and movies
 

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OP makes a good point, though one could argue Prince made his best album after the Revolution broke up (Sign O' the Times). Also I know most people think the Revolution>>>>New Power Generation but I enjoy a lot of Prince's NPG work(Diamonds and Pearls and Love Symbol are both solid albums). I just like the fact that he was doing a funkier, "blacker" sound. That rapper in NPG was embarrassingly bad but Rosie Gaines was probably the best singer Prince has ever worked with
 

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Every great songwriter has benefited from surrounding him or herself with talented artists. Prince is no different. Of course they contributed. Their solo stuff is cool as well.

Prince is a musical genius, perhaps the most talented musical artist since James Brown. It's true the quality of his music waned after they left, but then again I think it was gonna happen regardless. Very few artists continue to consistently put out genius work. Bob Dylan comes to mind for me as someone who lasted very long in terms of brilliant work but I can't think of many more.

Even the Beatles would have put out weak shyt if they stuck together a few more years...it happens. Right now it seems like Prince is surrounded by very good technical musicians, but they don't seem to be good songwriters and they don't inspire him.
 
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