Joe Budden explains the DM's that Drake sent to him.

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Drake had way more to lose going after a poppin rapper (meek) then going after a washed up one (Joe)
Meek had already used the one thing against drake that would hurt him before it even turned into a "battle"..if anything he didn't really have a whole lot to lose going at meek by that time either, just turns out drake is more popular and a better rapper than meek.
 

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Drake had way more to lose going after a poppin rapper (meek) then going after a washed up one (Joe)


There are 100 battle rappers who could probably wash drake but if he managed to win in a battle he wouldn't get any points.


I think he would get points. He'd get his hip hop card back.

Now, his legacy is just that of a pop star. He won't ever be respected in hip hop circles..... Serious hip hop circles without an agenda.
 

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This is what I meant kinda, yeah by drakes standards, as in popularity ect. It's a win, but just strictly music, drake looks like a chump because he'll throw it at a basic rapper like meek but won't retaliate to Joe except for subliminals and bytchiness at concerts. Joes disses were nice, and drake is yet to respond like a man, so in those terms, Joe won

When you're the hottest rapper out, you set the standards, no one is going to question the method, just like they didn't question Jay's subs in all of his songs. Like I mentioned, Em released Rap God which in and of itself is the biggest diss song to everyone in the game, and no one said anything. Responding "like a man" is a fallacy, its rap, not some kind of gentlemen duel with pistols. Your re-appropriating Drake's standards with your own, however as I also mentioned before, he sets the standard.
 

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:what:

It ain't a sub when you put a nikkas picture on the summer jam screen breh. Nas specifically dissed radio DJ's who were taking payola. Kendrick didn't murder anything and even then he put nikkas name's in the verse just to be competitive. Krayzie Bone replied to rap god outta respect.

What I'm trying to figure out is what does any of those deflections you tried have to do with Drake all of a sudden being above the fray after HE started the shyt?

Not really deflection by any means, my point was that many a rapper has thrown out subs, this is nothing new, but many Drake haters (or stans? can't tell the difference at this point) are setting some kind of standard by cherry picking particular rap beefs. The truth is, or rather the more apparent thing happens to be; No one outside of internet forums cares about Joe trying to beef with Drake. At this point he sets the standard, and if he wants to throw subs, then is anyone really surprised?

This isn't going to be like Pac and Big, or even Jay and Nas, or any other beef we can cherry pick. This is one popular rapper against a one hit wonder...don't expect fireworks, championing for some fallacy about "keeping it hip hop" is a waste of time.
 

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When you're the hottest rapper out, you set the standards, no one is going to question the method, just like they didn't question Jay's subs in all of his songs. Like I mentioned, Em released Rap God which in and of itself is the biggest diss song to everyone in the game, and no one said anything. Responding "like a man" is a fallacy, its rap, not some kind of gentlemen duel with pistols. Your re-appropriating Drake's standards with your own, however as I also mentioned before, he sets the standard.

how is Rap God a diss track
 

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When you're the hottest rapper out, you set the standards, no one is going to question the method, just like they didn't question Jay's subs in all of his songs. Like I mentioned, Em released Rap God which in and of itself is the biggest diss song to everyone in the game, and no one said anything. Responding "like a man" is a fallacy, its rap, not some kind of gentlemen duel with pistols. Your re-appropriating Drake's standards with your own, however as I also mentioned before, he sets the standard.
The whole thing about Em and Rap God is a completely different scenario all together lol, so I won't even respond to that, but my main point is basically...drake, as much as I enjoy his music is completely bytchmade when it come to responding to people and how he responds depending on who it is..

Meek Mill, Tyga, Tory Lanez

Kendrick Lamar, Pusha T, Joe Budden

See the pattern?

Edit: and no rap god isn't a diss track, unless we wanna label every braggadocious rap song as a diss track lol
 

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Meek had already used the one thing against drake that would hurt him before it even turned into a "battle"..if anything he didn't really have a whole lot to lose going at meek by that time either, just turns out drake is more popular and a better rapper than meek.

Drake is definitely not a better rapper than Meek
 

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The whole thing about Em and Rap God is a completely different scenario all together lol, so I won't even respond to that, but my main point is basically...drake, as much as I enjoy his music is completely bytchmade when it come to responding to people and how he responds depending on who it is..

Meek Mill, Tyga, Tory Lanez

Kendrick Lamar, Pusha T, Joe Budden

See the pattern?

bytchmade? He's a rapper trying to make money....I didn't know this was about some standard you think the rap game is. Hate to break it to you, but no one in rap is the "tough guy" they presume to rap about. I get that the Coli worships Pac and all kinds of Pac behavior but we've all seen what happens when you push that tough guy mentality too hard. Also these are lyrics...no one is trying to be tough, especially not Joe, the dude is far more emotional given his tweets and podcast episodes. All I see are two emotional rappers, not tough guys by any standards.
 
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