Joe Budden podcast debates how can you tell the difference between courting and "love bombing"

[Braman]

The only guy that has legitimately love bombed me (spent mad $$$ then slow ghosted) still watches my stories from a fake profile. So weird.

That’s not a love bomb that’s a transaction. He paid for services rendered

 

[Still Benefited]

Love bombing, which I have only really encountered once, is very specific. It's not just someone being nice. It's coupled with emotional withdrawal and manipulation.

I knew a guy who would do it to women EXTREMELY well. It was very abusive. He would literally make the women feel amazing and then find the tiniest thing and make it a huge deal and completely withdraw from her. The withdrawal then made the women chase him. He could literally keep women on this loop for years.

Running game 101



Obviously we no longer condone this type of behavior. But if withdrawl can make you chase a man,isnt that just immaturity and weakness on womens part? That men just happen to have learned we can exploit? Whats the difference in that and women "making you chase" them with subtle hints that the sex is right around the corner? Whats the difference in that and women keeping men orbiting in the friend zone with dropping hints he is a potential candidate? We could easily assume some women who do these things arent doing it genuinely. And I would say alot of women do this or have in some capacity.




I definitely have lovebombed just like you described as part of my upbringing. But i have also 100% been genuine in my pursuit and would take offense to those women thinking I was being fake. To the ones I was playing with,I humbly apologize

 

[Still Benefited]

That’s not a love bomb that’s a transaction. He paid for services rendered

Yeah,seems like what used to be considered running game is now called love bombing. Now back in the day plenty of women before the game was ran would say "Feels like you just trying to run game". Even though their emotions may still get the best of them,and they go along with it. So are you telling me in the City Girl,"do your big one" era, That women are being more fooled than the women from a more innocent,naive era?


Or are the women just accepting this "simping" and these gifts because that makes them appear as "City Girls". While also knowing they can turn around and be a victim of "lovebombing" if it goes in a way they dont like. Seems like a win win situation for alot of women in this climate. You ladies run a tight ship in this #WomanDoNoWrong era

 

[TNC]

Love bombing, which I have only really encountered once, is very specific. It's not just someone being nice. It's coupled with emotional withdrawal and manipulation.

I knew a guy who would do it to women EXTREMELY well. It was very abusive. He would literally make the women feel amazing and then find the tiniest thing and make it a huge deal and completely withdraw from her. The withdrawal then made the women chase him. He could literally keep women on this loop for years.

This only worked because they women had already decided they were attracted to him and weren't emotionally intelligent enough to separate from him. None of this shyt would work if he was an ugly dude or the woman was mature.

Love bombing from an ugly dude is called creepy incel behavior.

 

[TNC]

The only guy that has legitimately love bombed me (spent mad $$$ then slow ghosted) still watches my stories from a fake profile. So weird.

You did something to turn him away. He probably still wants to hit but knows its not worth his time.

Sorry for the honesty.

 

[Mordith]

As an admitted love bomber I find it hilarious that you nikkas can't comprehend how this is a thing

 

[MajesticLion]

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

This only worked because they women had already decided they were attracted to him and weren't emotionally intelligent enough to separate from him. None of this shyt would work if he was an ugly dude or the woman was mature.

Love bombing from an ugly dude is called creepy incel bebehavior.

He was/is very average looking with a gut.

Dude was just a natural leader as well. Extremely charismatic and a decent liar.

 

[Braman]

Love bombing, which I have only really encountered once, is very specific. It's not just someone being nice. It's coupled with emotional withdrawal and manipulation.

I knew a guy who would do it to women EXTREMELY well. It was very abusive. He would literally make the women feel amazing and then find the tiniest thing and make it a huge deal and completely withdraw from her. The withdrawal then made the women chase him. He could literally keep women on this loop for years.

This type of thinking is a scam. It completely removes womens’ accountability , disregards the fact that women often LIKE the flawed guy bc yall are fixers by nature, and it removes a man’s right to pivot based on new information/new behavior.

Like ‘littlest thing’ to who?!? That’s not your call lol He’s entitled to the same feather trigger for bullshyt that social media has women working with. Ain’t so cool when the Rabbit got the gun

And if he is purposely, maliciously doing wrong then the old saying applies ‘fool me once shame on you . Fool me twice….’

Can’t no grown ass woman be ‘manipulated’ by a man. What is he Magneto. Choose better

 

[Braman]

Love Bombing is only a thing when the recipient already decided they liked the bomber. For everyone else, its called building attraction.


Its definitely shaming language women created to criticize lack of consistency but its irresponsible to use because it doesn't address the reality that feelings can change and life happens. If your efforts are not appreciated in the way you desire, you should NOT continue them. You should take your value elsewhere and that idea infuriates narcissistic people

Spot on. What I’ve gathered is women dont take men seriously in the beginning. You’re courting them and women get into a ‘game’ mentality where they enjoy being chased and there’s a certain flakiness, casualness that comes with that

What women don’t realize is, if that lingers too long that causes a man to grow resentment. From there 3 things will happen:

1- He loses interest and bounces. This is the BEST outcome for women

2- Bc she was ungrateful and/or not reciprocating, he pivots and treats her differently. It’s not even malicious it’s a natural evolution. That’s when women skirt accountability and say he was ‘love bombing’

3- If they play that game with the wrong one he will file that resentment away and purposely dog her out when she finally she decides she’s ready to take him serious.

 

[MicIsGod]

Yall know women do this too right? Maybe that would make it easier for guys to get. Shower you with love be hella submissive to get what they want Its a cycle.

 

[MicIsGod]

Depends on what ‘the most’ is. In some cases sure you’re right. But in many cases, maybe even most, women are blocking their blessing.

The concept of ‘Love bombing’ is a byproduct of therapy. Here’s the thing with therapy: its conditioned a whole generation of women to analyze (overthink) EVERYTHING. So there is no to room for…serendipity. Happenstance. Luck. Romance

Before, people would have the most random stories of how they met, or how they initially didn’t like each other, or how a guy/girl will say ‘as soon as I saw them I knew that would be my husband/wife’

Well therapy has killed all of that. Bc now women are robots and need to rationalize (overthink) everything. There is no room for serendipity, there is no room for romance. And in turn, men we hear the same things y’all do so now, well maybe I WONT get her flowers. Well maybe I WONT do this nice thing, etc. Bc I don’t want to ‘love bomb’. Y’all been tricked out of your position.

Blaming therapy is wild. Your suspect is actually social media which shows us too much of everything. These people go to therapy 3 times and quit. Social media is all day.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

OP can't even tell the difference between consensual and non-consensual sex, so he must really be over this

nikka said he a romantic.

How you romantically rape a chick?

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

If your taking romantic advice from Joe Budden, Melyssa Ford & Co then you automatically lost...

*EDIT* and "love bombing" motherfukkas is just making up terms now.

 

[O.Red]

Blaming therapy is wild. Your suspect is actually social media which shows us too much of everything. These people go to therapy 3 times and quit. Social media is all day.

It's not wild

Look therapy is a great thing for a lot of people, but what is never acknowledged is the fact that therapy makes some people worse. There are plenty of people that walk out of therapy more arrogant than they've ever been

This is especially true these days when "I've been going to therapy" has become a form of social currency