Joe Budden Podcast debating if swizz beatz is in the top 5 producers in HipHop list | Thoughts?

[L $ C]

this is horrible lmfao

 

[L $ C]

swizz does have a lot of classics in reality but no

 

[MisterMajesty]

Swizz is like a boxer with just haymakers. Some of the best ones ever, but just haymakers. No jab, hook, head movement, nothing.

 

[Mike Wins]

All for the love>>>>>

Money cash hoes is one of my favorite beats ever

You never get to call anyone biased or delusional again.

 

[Mike Wins]

I dare anyone rating Swizz high to go beat for beat against any good to great to elite producer. All they can do is say is Swizz has the bigger hit. The actual beat itself won't stand up to scrutiny.

You can pick one beat from most producers that Swizz can't match or clear with the entirety of his catalog.

I'll give examples:
Large Professor - It Ain't Hard to Tell
Ski - Politics As Usual
Alchemist - Worst Comes to Worst
Madlib - Thuggin
Bink - Santorini Greece
9th - The Way You Do It

There's nothing you can put against these musically.



I swear if a no name producer played that beat for Jay he would've been laughed out the studio. That sounds like an 8-bit video game with drums on it.

People are lemmings and will defend garbage just because it's popular. They can't use critical thinking or be analytical.

No doubt, way too many equate something being popular with it being good. Ignoring the crazy number of trash songs, movies, shows, whatever that was hits.

And the hit song = good song crowd tend to be the most ignorant to the reality of the music business. Which is that hits are bought as much as they're made. Swizz always had the machine fully behind him due to his connections. They made sure his beats got used for singles then spent millions pushing em on the masses. He had a huge advantage over most his peers based on connections, not skill.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

 

[downtheline]

Swizz could rock those Casio stock beats for days

 

[skillz2]

When its comes to the music he actually made one of the most polarising figures in hip hop history. Swizzy has his disciples for sure and for every one them there are just as many who don't don't like the majority of his work and say he is wack.

Swizzy is a big name producer in the hip hop world, he had a great run of commercial success that is just undeniable; however, a lot people like to equate commercial success with quality.

 

[JYoung24]

You forgot hit boi

 

[TripleAgent]

ALL producers benefit from the artists they work with. Would we even discuss Premier as an elite producer had his production on Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Ready To Die, and Life After Death had been on a Group Home project? Where would Kanye West and Just be had their work on Blueprint had went to Fabolous?

Don't do that.

 

[JustCKing]

Don't do that.

Why not? Its the truth. No producer is great without the artist.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

i fell over laughing the first time i heard this

 

[TripleAgent]

Why not? Its the truth. No producer is great without the artist.

Preemo's beats stand up completely. People say HE is Group Home. Swizz got away with BS beats with legendary rapper performances.

 

[JustCKing]

When its comes to the music he actually made one of the most polarising figures in hip hop history. Swizzy has his disciples for sure and for every one them there are just as many who don't don't like the majority of his work and say he is wack.

Swizzy is a big name producer in the hip hop world, he had a great run of commercial success that is just undeniable; however, a lot people like to equate commercial success with quality.

Swizz is not one of the most polarizing figures in Hip Hop. That's The Booth, which as proven, is not reality. Ya'll push narratives on here and tend to think the rest of the world feels that way. This wouldn't even be a debate if that were the case. Obviously, there are people that think highly of Swizz. I don't think he's Top 5, but there are those that do.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Swizz be making beats for 5th century Druids zooted while sacrificing children.

Beats be having a dumb ass piccolo sounding like it is being used to rape Rosey from the Jetsons and random Japanese video game soundtrack recordings from 1984 spliced in with the original Blue Man group stage recordings played in reverse underwater.

I fukking hate 85% of his beats.

Jay Z corny ass would pick some of his stupidest beats too.