Joe Budden proclaims "the girl rapper wave is over": "Very few of y’all are selling records"

[Sad Bunny]

I agree Nobody has really taken the torch and ran with it. People are still naming Cole, Kendrick, and Drake like they aren’t the old guys now. Now I took an honest listen to XXXtentacion not long after his death and I really believe he could’ve had the torch for a minute. Dude was crazy and it would be hard for me to listen to a lot of his music, but he has some gems that I find myself going back to. People named Pop Smoke and Juice Wrld… I didn’t care too much for them so I dunno. It seems like artists now just drop songs and people fukk with them or they don’t. Who are the consistent stars in hiphop now not named Cole, Kendrick, or Drake?

Yes. X was my favorite.

I liked Uzi but he fell off quick.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

There hasn’t been any consistency since Nicki fell off. Some chick will be the one for a year then we see another one. People barely respect the girls that are actually dropping hits.

Y’all are making points that literally apply to the whole of rap, and music to an extent. Not one point in here is valid about the girls only.

And y’all complaining about them being more influencers than musicians are missing the whole point - there’s more money and longevity in that vs making albums. Saweetie never sold shyt but had a rack of endorsements and women generally like her, that’s doing more to keep her pockets afloat than music ever will. Music ain’t paying like that no more, so expecting people to be 100% in on it is outdated AF

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Y’all are making points that literally apply to the whole of rap, and music to an extent. Not one point in here is valid about the girls only.

And y’all complaining about them being more influencers than musicians are missing the whole point - there’s more money and longevity in that vs making albums. Saweetie never sold shyt but had a rack of endorsements and women generally like her, that’s doing more to keep her pockets afloat than music ever will. Music ain’t paying like that no more, so expecting people to be 100% in on it is outdated AF

I think the whole game needs work but my reply was catered to the Budden post. There’s no consistency in rap anymore at all.

 

[darealvelle]

Female rappers need to get back on some gangsta shyt...

That's why I liked about Kim and Foxy.

They weren't one dimensional.

They didn't make songs about how to just take money from a man.

Foxy had songs about sticking up nikkas and Kim was talkin about Flippin bricks and pulling rip jobs with Junior Mafia.

They actually made music that men wanted to listen to and bump in the whip. And we also purchased their music.

 

[MikelArteta]

girl rappers are like the wnba
yeah there are a few players with name but no one that divested in

 

[maxamusa]

They actually made music that men wanted to listen to and bump in the whip. And we also purchased their music.

they always had a lot of credible male features or RnB acts on the singles tho

 

[Mac Ten]

They actually made music that men wanted to listen to and bump in the whip. And we also purchased their music.

That pose in the booklet of Hard Core alone had cats buying the album.

Kim looked like a str8 up porn star. She actually had her body out for cats to have wet dreams.

Biggie did a great job painting out a artistic vision for the males

 

[chiefdogg]

Female MC's like Latifah, Roxxanne, Nicki, Remy, Eve, Rah Digga, Lady Of Rage, MC Lyte are a last of a dying breed. These new artist selling porn instead of Hip Hop.

If I'm mistaken didn't Rah Digga say the same and got push back?

 

[Mac Ten]

Female MC's like Latifah, Roxxanne, Nicki, Remy, Eve, Rah Digga, Lady Of Rage, MC Lyte are a last of a dying breed. These new artist selling porn instead of Hip Hop.

Remy had a street feel...

It felt like she was a gangsta.

She looked the type to have a razor under her tongue and go to sleep in her times judging by her rhymes.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Y’all are being overly generous in how much men supported female rap back in the day. Those women were still selling a fraction of what their male counterparts were and definitely had a higher proportion of female fans. But anything to make an unfounded point

 

[darealvelle]

That pose in the booklet of Hard Core alone had cats buying the album.

Kim looked like a str8 up porn star. She actually had her body out for cats to have wet dreams.

Biggie did a great job painting out a artistic vision for the males

And she could spit rhymes. Great way to market. Set the blueprint

 

[Mac Ten]

And she could spit rhymes. Great way to market. Set the blueprint

Kim will be 50 this year and she's carrying the torch.

She was a true rider unlike Faith. Folks liked Faith because she was lighter.

Kim didn't let that ballerina Pac dirty mack and get with her.

 

[Mac Ten]

Y’all are being overly generous in how much men supported female rap back in the day. Those women were still selling a fraction of what their male counterparts were and definitely had a higher proportion of female fans. But anything to make an unfounded point

I always supported female rap.

There's a reason I brought a Missy Elliott CD as a kid

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I always supported female rap.

There's a reason I brought a Missy Elliott CD as a kid

There’s a reason you’re discussing rap online, you are not the average consumer. Men didnt support female rap the way y’all making it out to be. Most heard them casually through features, label compilations and singles (back when we all had to tune into the same songs on the radio or video station), the majority of men were not blasting hard core, ill na na, or da baddest bytch albums in their car or discman, the girls were

 

[darealvelle]

they always had a lot of credible male features or RnB acts on the singles tho

Very true with dope production