Joe Burrow lost his Joy for the game...
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Ghostface Trillah
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He's outplayed everyone you named more than once though so....
You really have to hate a dude who only lost league MVP last year because no one on his defense understands how to tackle to say that he isn't elite. Regular QBs aren't winning Natty's and going to the Superbowl.
He handcuffed the front office into paying 300mil for 2 wrHe's outplayed everyone you named more than once though so....
You really have to hate a dude who only lost league MVP last year because no one on his defense understands how to tackle to say that he isn't elite. Regular QBs aren't winning Natty's and going to the Superbowl.
Ghostface Trillah
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Even if that was true,that has nothing to do with what I said.
The reality is his front office didn't lock in the best WR in the league and a really great WR2 and fukked themselves. As a QB why wouldn't you want to keep those guys. Blame the front office for not seeing the value in keeping Jamarr fukking Chase long term. Burrow is smart enough to see how that he can throw to anyone mindset front offices have is playing out for those other elite QBs like Lamar, Mahomes, and Allen.
Burrow has had arguably the #1 wr in the NFL his entire career
Lamar best wr in his career Hollywood brown?
Patrick with the best wr in the NFL threw 5k yards and won the Superbowl
Patrick won with xavier worthy as his #1
Allen has the worst wr corp in the NFL
Burrow has had the best weapons of the "big 4" QBs ..
He made the Superbowl 5yrs ago.. they still use that as why he's elite in 2025
Lamar best wr in his career Hollywood brown?
Patrick with the best wr in the NFL threw 5k yards and won the Superbowl
Patrick won with xavier worthy as his #1
Allen has the worst wr corp in the NFL
Burrow has had the best weapons of the "big 4" QBs ..
He made the Superbowl 5yrs ago.. they still use that as why he's elite in 2025
He has to live in Ohio, I 100% get it
Who wouldn't want to live in a state that shares boarders
With West Virginia and Kentucky
And the Erie Amish peoples
From what I'm seeing, his accuracy is exceptional, and sentiment around the league is that he doesn't miss plays when they are there to be made (compared to other people) and you know they love a QB that keeps the offense on schedule. And this is despite his offensive line being what it is, though part of that is on him.
So knowing what he can do ... a lot of Burrow's appeal -- especially when a lot of QBs have their greatness judged on intangible shyt like being cool under pressure, great in clutch situations, etc. -- lies in the what-if realm. The equity he's gained has absolutely run dry in my opinion, but the what-ifs for him are tantalizing to those who cover the sport.
"What if his defense was just average?" (The one notable sustained stretch of decent play by them we can remember resulted in the Bengals getting to the Super Bowl, but losing it because Aaron Donald got a one-on-one block on a 4th down play where Chase was open down the field)
"What if he stays healthy?" (Last time he did, he put up MVP numbers, but his defense was historically bad, so they didn't win enough games for him to get the award. He finished 4th in the voting).
"What if he played behind a good OL?" (He wouldn't get hurt as much, meaning his numbers would be even better, meaning he probably has a MVP award by now and perhaps more on-field success)
From what I'm seeing, his accuracy is exceptional, and sentiment around the league is that he doesn't miss plays when they are there to be made (compared to other people) and you know they love a QB that keeps the offense on schedule. And this is despite his offensive line being what it is, though part of that is on him.
So knowing what he can do ... a lot of Burrow's appeal -- especially when a lot of QBs have their greatness judged on intangible shyt like being cool under pressure, great in clutch situations, etc. -- lies in the what-if realm. The equity he's gained has absolutely begun running dry, but the what-ifs for him are tantalizing.
"What if his defense was just average?" (The one sustained stretch of decent play by them we can remember resulted in the Bengals getting to the Super Bowl, but losing it because Aaron Donald got a one-on-one block on a 4th down play where Chase was open down the field)
"What if he stays healthy?" (Last time he did, he put up MVP numbers, but his defense was historically bad, so they didn't win enough games for him to get the award. He finished 4th in the voting).
"What if he played behind a good OL?" (He wouldn't get hurt as much, meaning his numbers would be even better, meaning he probably has a MVP award by now and perhaps more on-field success)
The Bengals front office is an broke, abject failure, and this could have been avoided if they just paid early. That said, far too many teams are where they are because folks aren't willing to take less in order to ensure a good team exists, and part of that is due to folks seeing teams like Philly and Detroit pay all of their guys but manage the cap to where player acquisition is still doable.
I get what you're saying and I don't think you're wrong. I don't think he's a bad QB. Most teams would give up a lot to get him. However, people act like he has this mythical aura about him. People always said Lamar was injury prone, yet Burrow has missed a lot of time too. His playoff run wasn't anything sensational either. I'd say Allen has had much better playoff performances than Burrow.
You can't have a great OL, great WR's, and a great defense in today's NFL unless you get absolutely lucky. He's been given what he wanted, and the Bengals are not playing that well. Those two INT's against the Bills in the 4th quarter were absolutely horrific. Definitely not "clutch" for Burrow.
