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:camby:Marching and boycotting ain't gone do shyt. They did that in the 60's and this is still happening to this day. African-Americans need to realize that THEY WILL NEVER GET JUSTICE IN AMERICA, the system is set up by white people to murder you and get away with it. NO AMOUNT OF GROUP ECONOMICS OR AFRICAN AMERICANS COMING TOGETHER WILL STOP THIS. Incidents like these will happen at 100 times the rate in Trump's presidency because whites know they can get away with it. It's time for African Americans to exit the U.S., its something that should have been done decades ago.

On an individual level sure as a person you or I can leave relatively easily and put roots down wherever.

I bet people said that nothing could be done about Jim Crow in the 60's too. Revolution ain't a answer (asks the Syrians). Becoming a gigantic diaspora ain't a answer either (asks the Mexicans) All this shyt your seeing is a bunch of salty white guys who are coming to terms with the fact they aren't the end all of everything. Obama ruined their whiteness and their so pissed they voted in a idiot who happened to be a white man too.

You want to hurt racist white people? You hurt them in their Wallet. Boycotts work (ask Glen Beck), protest work as a way to draw attention to your cause (look at BLM), the issue is a lack of leadership and organization/community to make those tactics a lot more hard hitting. Their is also a lack of black leadership in the Democratic Party besides a few keep "individuals". We as a people should be looking to force that party to bow down like the repubs bow down to whites..... But we don't have the leadership to organize that power move either.

I am also thinking African Americans in general need to change their opinion on Guns too but lord knows black people with guns will just scare racist white people into buying tanks cause they are that big of a p*ssy. However we do need to look into Gun ownership, and emulate the white version of the militias in the more rural areas (minus the propaganda..... Arguably that will just make it easier for whites to justify their violence based on what happened to the Panthers). Boycotts would be enough in the major cities on the coasts and in the north since African Americans are large consumers wherever we are and gun violence/ black on black in urban areas do to vicinity and an overall lack of a "gun culture" in major cities

Also the only ways AFrican Americans can get a homeland in Africa is the go to another profitable country and become a diaspora (tell me a country that will handle a million new refugee's let alone between 15 - 20)or they go and pull an Israel and take it.

Liberia was a country put aside for African Americans after slavery before and look how the US and the rest of the world have fukked it over these centuries.

Running ain't a realistic option for 15-20 million people. We are stuck with these b*stards so we might as well make this fukking place as comfortable as possible.
 
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On an individual level sure as a person you or I can leave relatively easily and put roots down wherever.

I bet people said that nothing could be done about Jim Crow in the 60's too. Revolution ain't a answer (asks the Syrians). Becoming a gigantic diaspora ain't a answer either (asks the Mexicans) All this shyt your seeing is a bunch of salty white guys who are coming to terms with the fact they aren't the end all of everything. Obama ruined their whiteness and their so pissed they voted in a idiot who happened to be a white man too.

You want to hurt racist white people? You hurt them in their Wallet. Boycotts work (ask Glen Beck), protest work as a way to draw attention to your cause (look at BLM), the issue is a lack of leadership and organization/community to make those tactics a lot more hard hitting. Their is also a lack of black leadership in the Democratic Party besides a few keep "individuals". We as a people should be looking to force that party to bow down like the repubs bow down to whites..... But we don't have the leadership to organize that power move either.

I am also thinking African Americans in general need to change their opinion on Guns too but lord knows black people with guns will just scare racist white people into buying tanks cause they are that big of a p*ssy. However we do need to look into Gun ownership, and emulate the white version of the militias in the more rural areas (minus the propaganda..... Arguably that will just make it easier for whites to justify their violence based on what happened to the Panthers). Boycotts would be enough in the major cities on the coasts and in the north since African Americans are large consumers wherever we are and gun violence/ black on black in urban areas do to vicinity and an overall lack of a "gun culture" in major cities

Also the only ways AFrican Americans can get a homeland in Africa is the go to another profitable country and become a diaspora (tell me a country that will handle a million new refugee's let alone between 15 - 20)or they go and pull an Israel and take it.

Liberia was a country put aside for African Americans after slavery before and look how the US and the rest of the world have fukked it over these centuries.

Running ain't a realistic option for 15-20 million people. We are stuck with these b*stards so we might as well make this fukking place as comfortable as possible.

1.:jbhmm:Outside of segregation, what has changed for black people since the 60's. Black people as a whole are actually in a worse position now than they were in the 60's.
The Widening Racial Wealth Divide
White-black wealth gap widens to near record levels
More Black Men are in Prison Today than Were Enslaved in 1850
2.Mexicans come here illegally with no prospects or skills, where as if african-americans made a thought out, long term plan to gradually leave the U.S. We would not only take the wealth we have accumilated with us but also our skills,ingenuity,and resources as well.
3. That would be 66% of white men that voted for Trump in a country where they're numbers are close to a 100 million.
4.White people boycotting Glen Beck worked because they are over 90% of his base, but Black people are only 13% of the population, so even if we got every black person to practice group economics (which is highly unlikely) white people would still have enough economic prowess to run and sustain the country without us.
5.We've been protesting since 60's, nothing's changed.
6.As far as guns go, you logically countered you're own statement. But even if black people started defending themselves against white and using like stand your ground, majority white juries will still convict us of murder. The system is rigged to always find the black defendant guilty no matter the facts. www.salon.com/2013/06/11/stand_your_ground_law_helps_white_defendants_a_lot_more_than_black_ones/
Those who Kill Blacks Benefit From Florida's Stand Your Ground Law
7. We all can't leave at once, and we cannot all go to the same place,but staying in a country where you do not have constitutional rights is illogical Dred Scott decision still resonates today
 

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Mofo aint going to jail. It's Louisiana.

Good job not voting Louisiana brehs. The sheriff is an elected position.
Which speaks to the larger problem. The elected law officials across the states don't feel they should have to uphold anything but supremacy. Walter Scott was shot in the back on camera and you have ONE juror above all rationale refusing to convict him. It's funny that I don't see anyone pushing every cop should have a body cam anymore narrative, as if that shyt would ever do anything. Until the local mayor, DA, and police chief actually get behind some criminal reform then it will continue to be open season on blacks by cops and racist citizen and honestly I don't see it changing...

As far as the actual case, IF what @TNOT is saying is factual then Joe should've been more careful. On the road you don't know what a person has and he didn't deserve to loose his life over it, but the days of men squashing their beefs through verbal agreements or fades are over. It's get your gun, I got mine and let's see who has the quickest trigger. I keep saying IF, if he(Gasser) fired all of those shots from inside his vehicle I can see why he didn't get charge, it was excessive as hell but he could say he was approached in this RR incident and didn't know what the guy had and started shooting.

Louisiana is racist as fukk and the DA is racist as fukk and they won't bring charges. The Stand your ground law is geared towards shooter with a lot of shades of grey.
 

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People are okay with the shooter taking a life over some stupid altercation?? Even if all that is true, there is absolutely no reason to kill another man over some argument. I wouldn't even shoot someone if he hit me, the only way I would shoot another man if he was trying to kill me.
 

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1.:jbhmm:Outside of segregation, what has changed for black people since the 60's. Black people as a whole are actually in a worse position now than they were in the 60's.
The Widening Racial Wealth Divide
White-black wealth gap widens to near record levels
More Black Men are in Prison Today than Were Enslaved in 1850
2.Mexicans come here illegally with no prospects or skills, where as if african-americans made a thought out, long term plan to gradually leave the U.S. We would not only take the wealth we have accumilated with us but also our skills,ingenuity,and resources as well.
3. That would be 66% of white men that voted for Trump in a country where they're numbers are close to a 100 million.
4.White people boycotting Glen Beck worked because they are over 90% of his base, but Black people are only 13% of the population, so even if we got every black person to practice group economics (which is highly unlikely) white people would still have enough economic prowess to run and sustain the country without us.
5.We've been protesting since 60's, nothing's changed.
6.As far as guns go, you logically countered you're own statement. But even if black people started defending themselves against white and using like stand your ground, majority white juries will still convict us of murder. The system is rigged to always find the black defendant guilty no matter the facts. www.salon.com/2013/06/11/stand_your_ground_law_helps_white_defendants_a_lot_more_than_black_ones/
Those who Kill Blacks Benefit From Florida's Stand Your Ground Law
7. We all can't leave at once, and we cannot all go to the same place,but staying in a country where you do not have constitutional rights is illogical Dred Scott decision still resonates today

1) I think you are underestimating how big of a improvement in the lives of African Americans the end of Segregation was.

2) The same could be said for most people on the planet, regardless of race. The most successful diaspora in recent memory is the Cubans. However, without the direct assistance of the US gov't the majority of Cubans would of been low class labor like all those other doctors and PhDs who drive cabs across America. Being a diaspora is usually a life of struggle and low class labor for the majority of people.

3) which is a nightmare no doubt. But that is 66 million out of 300 million Americans. Politically speaking America is a plularity that that demographic doesn't run if other demographics works together.

4) black people boycotted him. That's what cost him his We are a trillion dollar+ consumer demographic. Companies can't afford to lose that kind of money. The idea that another class will come out of pocket to compensate is also rediculous. Imagine paying for something you don't want out of spite for a month....6 months.... A year. Millions of people could not do that for everyone of the sponsors of a hate backed show being boycotted is

5) I won't lie the last few years feels that way
:francis:
But their is a pretty large black middle class that could not have existed even 20 years ago

6) that leads me to the point that America needs more black lawyers and protest need to be done against prosecutors that either overcharge or undercharge police who unfairly kill African Americans. They can't win every case, but they shouldn't tank cases either and should know they will be held accountable if they do.

7) the logistics of that would be a nightmare. Garvey tried to organize something like that slickly (by offering shares of a shipping company) and they put him in jail and basically deported him (like Mos def......:patrice:). You can leave, I can leave, this whole forum could leave, that is no where near (.000000001 possibly less) the amount of people who would have to agree to leave for your plan to work. Now imagine that amour affording that.... Randomly leaving to go to anywhere but America. It's not going to happen. We need to start holding businesses, companies, and individuals more accountable for what they do to us. fukk with us once it's war. It's what the Jews do and they are doing alright.
 

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1) I think you are underestimating how big of a improvement in the lives of African Americans the end of Segregation was.

2) The same could be said for most people on the planet, regardless of race. The most successful diaspora in recent memory is the Cubans. However, without the direct assistance of the US gov't the majority of Cubans would of been low class labor like all those other doctors and PhDs who drive cabs across America. Being a diaspora is usually a life of struggle and low class labor for the majority of people.

3) which is a nightmare no doubt. But that is 66 million out of 300 million Americans. Politically speaking America is a plularity that that demographic doesn't run if other demographics works together.

4) black people boycotted him. That's what cost him his We are a trillion dollar+ consumer demographic. Companies can't afford to lose that kind of money. The idea that another class will come out of pocket to compensate is also rediculous. Imagine paying for something you don't want out of spite for a month....6 months.... A year. Millions of people could not do that for everyone of the sponsors of a hate backed show being boycotted is

5) I won't lie the last few years feels that way
:francis:
But their is a pretty large black middle class that could not have existed even 20 years ago

6) that leads me to the point that America needs more black lawyers and protest need to be done against prosecutors that either overcharge or undercharge police who unfairly kill African Americans. They can't win every case, but they shouldn't tank cases either and should know they will be held accountable if they do.

7) the logistics of that would be a nightmare. Garvey tried to organize something like that slickly (by offering shares of a shipping company) and they put him in jail and basically deported him (like Mos def......:patrice:). You can leave, I can leave, this whole forum could leave, that is no where near (.000000001 possibly less) the amount of people who would have to agree to leave for your plan to work. Now imagine that amour affording that.... Randomly leaving to go to anywhere but America. It's not going to happen. We need to start holding businesses, companies, and individuals more accountable for what they do to us. fukk with us once it's war. It's what the Jews do and they are doing alright.


1.:francis: It's honestly worst than it was in the late 60's and early 70's. The wealth gap between whites and blacks is the highest in recorded history and more black men have been killed in the last three years by police than than were lynched in 60's and 70's. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8462778
2. Not saying it would be easy but I believe blacks should start leaving the U.S in small to large excrements over the next quarter century. The more blacks who have left that become more stable and financially secure in their new countries, the more it will in courage others to leave as well.
3. Just think about this for a second, there's close to 100 million white people who think a white nationalist should be president, those are DOCTORS,NURSES, LAWYERS,JUDGES,POLICE OFFICERS, PROSECUTORS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND EVERY DAY PEOPLE:merchant:. And you still think thay as a whole black people can prosper in this country:patrice:.
4.:mjlol: Black people make up maybe 5% at most of Glen Beck's audience. Whites are the ones who got Glenn Beck :trash:.By that logic black people can boycott Fox News till they are removed from the cable companies :troll:. Times are changing breh, white people don't give a fukk about being called racist anymore.They want full blown open white supremacy.
5. A middle class that manufactures nothing they want, nor produces anything they own.The majority of these people work for cacs and one bad day away from their bosses firing them. It would be smart for that growing black middle class to start saving as much money as they can and building relationships and business ties with foreign governments to make they're expatration easier but I digress.
6. Can't use the judicial system against whites. It is set up for whites to always come out the victirs There are thousands of white local legislators, city officals and judiciaries who's main purpose is to uphold white supremacy. The most black people can do is to sue the city governments that black people are unlawfully murders in and that us a fee white people are willing to pay to uphold white supremacy. As in the Eric Garner case.
7. This is not something that can happen overnight, I'm talking about a 25 year plan with at least 33% of the black population leaving .The truth is, most black people will not leave under any circumstance (even if they brought back slavery ) they're just too afraid of the unknown:yeshrug: I'm talking about knowledgeable African-Americans who understand their plight in the U.S.
 

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People are okay with the shooter taking a life over some stupid altercation?? Even if all that is true, there is absolutely no reason to kill another man over some argument. I wouldn't even shoot someone if he hit me, the only way I would shoot another man if he was trying to kill me.

And yet they talk about Chicago as if beefs aren't settled just as stupidly.

America is a country that promotes gun violence. As long as they allow random people to carry firearms and use them these things will keep happening.
 

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There is an answer but people don't want to hear it..... We got to get on that 60's shyt again with boycotts and marching and whatnot. However, we are sorely unprepared for that type of existence.

Honestly most African Americans live normal day to day existences. It's hard to come to terms with the idea of participating in a large long term civil unrest movement when your life is pretty good in the day to day. It also doesn't help that the black Christians (who were the catalyst for the civil rights movement) have also taken on the same "get money" approach of white mega churches. So your not seeing smaller tighter communities creating preachers who feel they should be leaders in the community like the 60's. Your getting career preachers who want the money.

It's a lack of leadership, organization, and community that is allowing this to happen. The scary part is a president like Trump signals that this behavior by racist whites isn't just the norm, it's being encouraged by the majority of them..

:salute: real talk brotha. Also let me add integration as well.

Hard for folks to want to fight the fight when they can work, shop, live, dine, party, have sex with, marry and everything else with white folks.

Sadly folks don't want to unplug out the matrix until shyt happen to they family or friends. That is the main issue.
 

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So why is the killer out free ?....I heard he shot once but then shot again when Joe was on the floor begging for his life.
 
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1.:francis: It's honestly worst than it was in the late 60's and early 70's. The wealth gap between whites and blacks is the highest in recorded history and more black men have been killed in the last three years by police than than were lynched in 60's and 70's. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8462778


:laff:

Propaganda at its finest right there......
 
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