Joe Rogan is Pissing Everyone off with his Anti Vax talk

[philmonroe]

Everyone isn't pro 'Big Pharma'. Everyone is 'fukk getting a preventable disease'. If 'natural immunity' was good enough, there wouldn't be a pandemic in the first place when Alpha touched down, and India and Peru wouldn't be looking like scenes from World War Z.​

This is a big fukking lie. If y'all dudes were soooooo concerned about "fukk getting a preventable disease" y'all would be going hard on a lot more things that are a problem for black people that are "preventable" like high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. I don't see the same energy on them things so it seems like y'all been programmed by whats popular to say right now.

 

[Big Boda]

i don't need faith when the numbers are straight up lopsided in favor of being vaccinated.

Who presented you with those numbers? was it white daddy?

We're they free from pharmaceutical money influence when they did the number keeping?

Do they have a track record of integrity when presenting numbers to people?

 

[RareHunter]

This is a big fukking lie. If y'all dudes were soooooo concerned about "fukk getting a preventable disease" y'all would be going hard on a lot more things that are a problem for black people that are "preventable" like high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. I don't see the same energy on them things so it seems like y'all been programmed by whats popular to say right now.

Who presented you with those numbers? was it white daddy?

We're they free from pharmaceutical money influence when they did the number keeping?

Do they have a track record of integrity when presenting numbers to people?

They already saying pfyzer is only 42% effective after 6 months and moderrna is 75%. It’s like they can say whatever on the fly, and silly ppl who just want to be entertained don’t even question it. Critical thinking is dwindling fast. They don’t care about health, the real issue is many are fat and unhealthy and don’t want to change lifestyle, the other half just want to go back to partying and drinking but feel like another half of society is preventing them.

 

[philmonroe]

They already saying pfyzer is only 42% effective after 6 months and moderrna is 75%. It’s like they can say whatever on the fly, and silly ppl who just want to be entertained don’t even question it. Critical thinking is dwindling fast.

What it is is that people just post a link and think they're smart for it. This is the new age version of dude was born on third base and thought he hit a triple. I posted a link and even though I don't have any more medical education than you I'm smart because that's what the doctors that the put out there say. I think that's whats funny in these online discussions that you don't have offline where all that looking for links is going to have folks like stop it fam. If some would just act like they are just as knowledgable as others I'd be cool with it even if I disagree but the arrogance of some is just sad,

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

They already saying pfyzer is only 42% effective after 6 months and moderrna is 75%. It’s like they can say whatever on the fly, and silly ppl who just want to be entertained don’t even question it. Critical thinking is dwindling fast. They don’t care about health, the real issue is many are fat and unhealthy and don’t want to change lifestyle, the other half just want to go back to partying and drinking but feel like another half of society is preventing them.

The paper you are pulling your numbers from is still in pre print and hasn't been peer reviewed.

Nevertheless the unvaccinated still make up 99% of hospitalized cases

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Who presented you with those numbers? was it white daddy?

We're they free from pharmaceutical money influence when they did the number keeping?

Do they have a track record of integrity when presenting numbers to people?

Who is white zaddy in this scenario? Half of the maga cacs have the same attitude towards the vaccines as you and many of them work in health care. If the mRNA vaccines weren't as effective as they claim to be best believe they would hop on the chance to blow the whistle on it. A guy like Rand Paul would love the opportunity to grand stand against Fauci with that news.

And that's just looking at it through the lens of American politics. By conjuring up white zaddy you are disregarding that this is in fact a world wide problem and that a ton of non white countries would love to have these same vaccines but are unable to produce them on Thier own due to patent protection. That's the real travesty here.

 

[Big Boda]

By conjuring up white zaddy you are disregarding that this is in fact a world wide problem and that a ton of non white countries would love to have these same vaccines but are unable to produce them on Thier own due to patent protection. That's the real travesty here.

Who owns the patents? Is it your white daddy? Who makes the profits from producing the vax are they white?

Who owns media companies that label these shots as the solution to a world wide problem?

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Who owns the patents? Is it your white daddy? Who makes the profits from producing the vax are they white?

Got it. The 24 board of directors for Moderna and Pfizer are zaddy in this case. 2 of them are black but they are overwhelming white. Worth mentioning is that the lead vaccine developer for Moderna is a black woman and her name is also on the patent.

Regardless they have created a vaccine that is highly effective and the reduction in deaths in highly vaccinated countries has backed them up. And big pharma aren't the ones reporting these numbers, local hospitals and health departments are. And as I mentioned earlier, there are plenty of maga nurses lurking about that would love to blow the whistle on the ineffectiveness of the vaccines and they would have maga senators like Rand Paul who would give them a platform.

Who owns media companies that label these shots as the solution to a world wide problem?

Bruh, I think you pick and choose when to believe the media. You've somehow been able to find every news story from every local market that showcases a breakthrough case but disregard any that report on the number of unvaccinated people in the ICU

 

[RareHunter]

What it is is that people just post a link and think they're smart for it. This is the new age version of dude was born on third base and thought he hit a triple. I posted a link and even though I don't have any more medical education than you I'm smart because that's what the doctors that the put out there say. I think that's whats funny in these online discussions that you don't have offline where all that looking for links is going to have folks like stop it fam. If some would just act like they are just as knowledgable as others I'd be cool with it even if I disagree but the arrogance of some is just sad,

Exactly. Also many doctors are no better. They just follow what their superiors say. A lot of doctors also have incentive to parrot this, and younger doctors are held by their insane amount of debt. Doctors make errors all the time caught by nurses, but as a whole medical errors is the 3rd leading cause of death, last I checked anyway. It’s like ppl aren’t even doing their due diligence. They don’t see the issue on a much grander scale also.

 

[RareHunter]

The paper you are pulling your numbers from is still in pre print and hasn't been peer reviewed.

Nevertheless the unvaccinated still make up 99% of hospitalized cases

Long term effects of the vax haven’t been peer reviewed either, are u serious breh?

 

[itsyoung!!]

Long term effects of the vax haven’t been peer reviewed either, are u serious breh?

Vaccine has been out awhile now, whats the cut off date for you to stop using long term effects as a counter argument? I need a set date

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Long term effects of the vax haven’t been peer reviewed either, are u serious breh?

This isn't the counterpoint that you think it is and it's actually pretty non sequitur to me mentioning that the numbers you are running with haven't yet been peer reviewed or scrutinized by the scientific community.

Unless of course you read the study yourself and felt that their lab methods and conclusions were accurate.

A story that's in pre-print hasn't been properly

 

[West Coast Avenger]

Who is white zaddy in this scenario? Half of the maga cacs have the same attitude towards the vaccines as you and many of them work in health care. If the mRNA vaccines weren't as effective as they claim to be best believe they would hop on the chance to blow the whistle on it. A guy like Rand Paul would love the opportunity to grand stand against Fauci with that news.

And that's just looking at it through the lens of American politics. By conjuring up white zaddy you are disregarding that this is in fact a world wide problem and that a ton of non white countries would love to have these same vaccines but are unable to produce them on Thier own due to patent protection. That's the real travesty here.

I wonder why he didn't quote this part........

 

[RareHunter]

Vaccine has been out awhile now, whats the cut off date for you to stop using long term effects as a counter argument? I need a set date

This isn't the counterpoint that you think it is and it's actually pretty non sequitur to me mentioning that the numbers you are running with haven't yet been peer reviewed or scrutinized by the scientific community.

Unless of course you read the study yourself and felt that their lab methods and conclusions were accurate.

A story that's in pre-print hasn't been properly

That’s what “the latest study” shows and they’re already calling for boosters. And after the boosters, what next?

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

That’s what “the latest study” shows and they’re already calling for boosters. And after the boosters, what next?

I mean you’re a parrot and u think you aren’t.

You're literally parroting something from a vox article. Did you bother to read the study they were reporting on?

Do peer reviews or studies in pre print mean anything to you?

This was the first line in the pre-print study


This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.


For the record about 35% of preprints don't get published