John Stockton last great American white NBA player?

[mson]

Real question is....

Why are Euros able to be successful but American whites can't?

White females are doing OK in college/WNBA, but white American boys can't?

When was the last time a white American was an elite 2-way player like a Kobe, KG, MJ, Hakeem etc? My theory is that brehs leveled up their outside shooting, so the GSWB ("good shooting white boy") lost his edge. Euros learn the game early and develop the skill advantage. Blacks might come up in AAU and need skill development...but brehs got enough athleticism to get by until they get caught up to the pro game (or they come in ready like Bron).

Seems like white dudes abandon any sport where brehs start to dominate. Football is the exception because the leadership structure does everything to protect white male dominance over front office/coaching. NFC East got all Black QBs now....so even that advantage is going away. Latinos got baseball/soccer.

But they kind of made a comeback in other positions.

 

[CHICAGO]

If he didn't get cheated out of a ring, who knows how he would be percieved.

LMAO

HE DID WIN A RING
AND HE WASNT ON SACRAMENTO
ANYMORE WHEN THEY LOST
TO THE LAKERS IN 7.

THIS THREAD SAYS A LOT ABOUT
HOW YOU nikkaS JUST POST TO POST



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[valet]

LMAO

HE DID WIN A RING
AND HE WASNT ON SACRAMENTO
ANYMORE WHEN THEY LOST
TO THE LAKERS IN 7.

THIS THREAD SAYS A LOT ABOUT
HOW YOU nikkaS JUST POST TO POST



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I apologized 3 pages back

 

[FaTaL]

Kevin love was a legit all star

Stockton was way better

 

[MJ Truth]

I get Bobby Sura vibes from Austin Reaves

Mac McClung is 100% that lane too but I guess not technically in the league

is Tyler Herro the coldest white american playing now?

Austin might be colder than Herro.

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

Fukk wit me, doe (no homo):

Mike Miller: McDonalds All-American, Rookie of The Year, 6th Man Award, 3 Gold Medals, 2 Rings.
Could it be…that Mike Miller is the most accomplished Memphis Grizzly OAT??
Could it be…that the wholetime…Miller was the Stockton to LeBron’s Malone??

Brad Miller: 2x All-Star, 2 bronze medals for Team USA, great passer as a big man, wet J.
Could it be…Brad Miller is the best White Center since Dave Cowens?? Was king of the BWOs?


Dwell on it…

Mike Miller definitely deserves mentioning and has contributed to some great teams.

 

[CHICAGO]

I apologized 3 pages back

NOPE YOU STILL
DIDNT REALIZE HE WASN'T EVEN
ON THAT SACRAMENTO TEAM



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[valet]

NOPE YOU STILL
DIDNT REALIZE HE WASN'T EVEN
ON THAT SACRAMENTO TEAM



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Yes I was wrong about that.

 

[Harry B]

Kevin Love is the only one who made the national team, twice?

But then again, big American guys has not been very stacked in the past years and also consider if he was a role player. So one would have to define great. Hall of fame? Is he HoF? 1st, 2nd etc

 

[FAH1223]

Keith Van Horn had potential. Good start to his career, averaging like 19 and 6 as a rookie, but his best season was year two when he averaged 22 and 8. Never averaged 20 again.

I noticed there were quite a few white American players who were picked top 10 in the draft though, but never panned out like that:

Keith Van Horn (#2)
Raef Lafrentz (#3)
Jason Williams (#7)
Wally Szczerbiak (#6)
Mike Miller (#5)
Mike Dunleavy Jr. (#3)
Chris Kaman (#6)
Kirk Hinrich (#7)
Luke Jackson (#10)
Adam Morrison (#3)
Spencer Hawes (#10)
Kevin Love (#5)
Joe Alexander (#8)
Gordon Hayward (#9)

Even this past year, Reed Shepherd was the #3 pick

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

He didn’t have a great career nor was he a great player

 

[FAH1223]

He didn’t have a great career nor was he a great player

Right. That clip is from his rookie year.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Domantas Sabonis was born in America, went to college in America, and could be on the great trajectory. He's lead the league in rebounds twice, and is about to do it again this year. He needs to get out of Sac though.

 

[Luke Cage]

Far being listed as an all time great. but Jason Williams is probably the favorite white american player for most people since bird.

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

Surprised none of you mentioned