John Wall is officially better than CP3 right?

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Clueless as always. The board is better without you :camby:

It proves that CP has been playing just about as well as possible, better than Wall and better than just about everybody else throughout the first round. His PER is 2nd only to Kawai. I know you arent stupid like he is. Don't ask stupid questions.


His PER is always high, his playoff wins always low :mjgrin:
 
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CP3 stans have literally no grasp on the game at all. It's half the reason they grasp at straws whenever the Clippers bow out in the PS.
 

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:russell: Paul hasn't taken over the series with his scoring which is what the Clippers really need him to do, and he's allowing the Jazz to control the pace of the series. Wall is setting his teammates up and still being aggressive with his own shot, if Blake hadn't gotten hurt do you really think Dribble Dribble would be averaging 27? Is this the upper level of his scoring, hitting 27? Cause I'm certain if Beal got hurt Wall would be posting them Westbrook statlines trying to will his team to wins. If they lose tonight don't speak his name please.

Let me know when a Wall led team loses a playoff game by 60 breh, guess who holds the title for biggest loss in playoff history.....Dribble Dribble :mjgrin:
CP has been agressive as well. He has taken a larger scoring roll and assisting. He has scored in the clutch. And Wall would put up Westbrook numbers on Westbrook efficiency if he were forced they wouldn't win anything. And you keep saying dribble dribble like Wall isn't dribble dribble vol 2 :mjlol:
You keep talking about scoring like the games haven't been close or something.
 
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He don't got that extra scoring gear
He doesn't necessarily even need one. He just needs to keep the tempo by being a threat to score, at all times. He treats it too much like the regular season. I don't even think he does it on purpose anymore - it's just a force of habit. Folk talk about his ability to manage a game, but he's vastly overrated in that area. He still hasn't worked out you can't waste time picking your spots in the playoffs, it's just missed opportunities where he could be either extending leads or breaking into deficits.
 

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CP has been agressive as well. He has taken a larger scoring roll and assisting. He has scored in the clutch. And Wall would put up Westbrook numbers on Westbrook efficiency if he were forced they wouldn't win anything. And you keep saying dribble dribble like Wall isn't dribble dribble vol 2 :mjlol:
You keep talking about scoring like the games haven't been close or something.

CP being aggressive is Wall's normal mode, I mean he's never had a 40 pt game in the playoffs, Wall did that in 24 games, CP3 has played 74 :mjlol:

That makes it even worse, the Jazz are the team with Hayward, Gobert, Hood....you know the inexperienced guys. The teams are averaging the exact same amount of PPG through 5 games, 2-3 extra points from Dribble could have won this series by now :mjgrin:
 

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:russell: Paul hasn't taken over the series with his scoring which is what the Clippers really need him to do, and he's allowing the Jazz to control the pace of the series. Wall is setting his teammates up and still being aggressive with his own shot, if Blake hadn't gotten hurt do you really think Dribble Dribble would be averaging 27? Is this the upper level of his scoring, hitting 27? Cause I'm certain if Beal got hurt Wall would be posting them Westbrook statlines trying to will his team to wins. If they lose tonight don't speak his name please.

Let me know when a Wall led team loses a playoff game by 60 breh, guess who holds the title for biggest loss in playoff history.....Dribble Dribble :mjgrin:
Wall on this Clippers team gets swept.
You mean it's better when nobody calls you out on your dumb shyt. You will always be beneath me. :mjgrin:
Here, dummy. Read something. Learn something:


We all know the drill. The Los Angeles Clippers perform with the best of them in the regular season, make the postseason and flounder when the pressure's on in the first and second round.

You might say that's happening again this year. Five games into their first-round matchup with the Utah Jazz, the Clippers find themselves in a 3-2 hole heading to Salt Lake City for Game 6 on Friday.

Since getting out to a 2-1 series lead, the Clippers have lost Blake Griffin to a toe injury for the remainder of the playoffs and have dropped two straight contests -- one on the road and one at Staples. They've lost by a combined 11 points in those two games, and it's only been that close because of their star point guard.

In Games 4 and 5, Paul has gone for a total of 55 points, 21 assists and 13 rebounds in just under 76 minutes of floor time. However, it hasn't taken a loss or a Griffin-less lineup for CP3 to produce in a historically great way.

Through five games of a hard-fought series, Paul's individual performance has been legendary.

Historical Production
Regardless of Griffin's presence, Paul has scored 27.0 points while dishing out 10.4 assists and grabbing 5.6 rebounds in 36.4 minutes. Those averages place him in the company of only four other players to have ever averaged at least 25 points, 10 assists and 5 rebounds in a single postseason.

Season Player MPG PPG APG RPG
1961-62 Oscar Robertson 46.3 28.8 11.0 11.0
1985-86 Isiah Thomas 40.8 26.5 12.0 5.5
1989-90 Magic Johnson 41.8 25.2 12.8 6.3
2015-16 Russell Westbrook 37.4 26.0 11.0 6.9
2016-17 Russell Westbrook 38.8 37.4 10.8 11.6
2016-17 Chris Paul 36.4 27.0 10.4 5.6

Counting this season, Russell Westbrook has accomplished this feat twice. But, as you can see, Paul has played the smallest number of minutes of the six instances in which a player has averaged these numbers.

Accordingly, Paul's box plus-minus (BPM) -- a box score estimate of the points per 100 possessions a player contributed above a league-average player, translated to an average team -- of 16.7 is superior to all other individual postseasons listed. In fact, Westbrook's 2016-17 campaign is the cloest, when he posted a BPM of 13.1 in five games.

If we focus on BPM alone, Paul's is only one of two scores higher than 15. The only other player to have done so while averaging at least 24 minutes per game is LeBron James. Back in 2009 -- during his first stint with the Cleveland Cavaliers -- when he was 24 years old, the King earned a BPM of 18.2 in 14 postseason games.

One-of-a-Kind Efficiency
Of the four players above, Paul separates himself through his efficiency, both shooting and otherwise.

On 19.2 field goal attempts per game, Paul is shooting 53.1% from the field and 44.0% from three, with 2.2 makes from distance. That makes for an effective field goal percentage of 58.9%, which eliminates all others on the list. Per Basketball Reference, Paul is the only player with his point, assist and rebound production to do so with an effective field goal percentage of 55.0% or better.

Further, if we account Paul's elite free-throw shooting (91.7%), that percentage climbs all the way up to a 63.3% true shooting rate. That ranks 11th overall in the playoffs (for players to average 24 minutes or more) and second to the uber-efficient Kawhi Leonard among players to average 25 or more points per game.

What's more, Leonard is the only player that stands between Paul and the top player efficiency rating (PER) in the playoffs. Paul's PER of 34.3 falls just short of Leonard's mark of 37.5, while it is 3.9 higher than the third-rated player, Mike Conley (30.4).

In light of Paul's inflated usage rate (31.8%) sans Griffin, this level of efficiency is that much better.

A combination of production and efficiency to this magnitude can only mean value. And value is exactly what Paul has brought.

Of the 25-10-5 list above, he joins Magic Johnson and Russell Westbrook as the only two players with at least 1.0 win shares in their postseason performance. But, broken down as to eliminate volume, Paul is the lone player with at least .250 win shares per 48 minutes. His .345 is far and above Magic Johnson's .222 win shares per 48 back in the 1990 playoffs.

Even if we look at players who have averaged 25 points per game, Paul's win-share rate is worse than only four postseason performances (of at least three games). The distinguished list is made up of Leonard's current playoff season, James' '09 campaign, Hakeem Olajuwon's run in 1988 and Bob Cousy's 1956 postseason.

No matter which way you split it, the Point God's five games is -- to this point -- one of the best we've ever seen. So don't let the narrative of yesteryear get in the way.

Appreciate what Paul's doing, because we might not ever see it again.


Other posters usually call you an analytics dork or a stat geek but they're wrong. A stat geek would love Chris Paul. You're just an idiot with the emotional intelligence of an autistic child.
 
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Blake Griffin 5 times all-star, 4 times all-NBA

DeAndre Jordan 1 time all-star, 2 times all-new and 2 times all-defensive team.

Beal on the other hand...

You out here acting like CP3 and the Clippers don't try their hardest against the Warriors everytime :mjlol:

Still get blown out by 50 and cooked by Steph :russ:
And this cornball @GoddamnyamanProf still thinks CP3 is better than Steph. :dead:
 
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