JOKER movie might be the worst thing to happen to DCEU

[obarth]

Terrible comparisson, logan was within the fox mutant universem logan was the best thing that could happen to fox

And wb have not at all moved away from connected movies,

Logan was within that universe right? It came after two Wolverine movies that were not well received, correct? It also marked the end of Hugh Jackman playing the character, am I right? So to have the pinnacle of a character's portrayal, on top of that actor no longer being part of that cbm universe, can be relevant to what we are talking about. DC literally made official that their cbm universe is called Worlds of DC I can give you links to that. The whole point of that is giving directors freedom to do what they want, meaning shyt like The Joker existing without a need to connect to Wonder Woman, Shazam, etc. Yeah, they might have certain actors that translate to other movies, but a connected universe is not hampering the vision for future movies. By insisting that DC is continuing a connected universe, you're literally going against your initial point that Tbe Joker is hurting DC's connected universe by being "too good"

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

Logan was within that universe right? It came after two Wolverine movies that were not well received, correct? It also marked the end of Hugh Jackman playing the character, am I right? So to have the pinnacle of a character's portrayal, on top of that actor no longer being part of that cbm universe, can be relevant to what we are talking about. DC literally made official that their cbm universe is called Worlds of DC I can give you links to that. The whole point of that is giving directors freedom to do what they want, meaning shyt like The Joker existing without a need to connect to Wonder Woman, Shazam, etc. Yeah, they might have certain actors that translate to other movies, but a connected universe is not hampering the vision for future movies By insisting that DC is continuing a connected universe, you're literally going against your initial point that Tbe Joker is hurting DC's connected universe by being "too good"

Lol how can u compare to logan when logan was within universe

Because of how good this joker was, well prpbably not get a joker in the dceu again

 

[Norrin Radd]

Birds of Prey looks fire tho

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Why the hell would people want this joker in a batman movie? The joker movie was grounded in reality and if they were to make another one it'd be the nolan movies all over again

It was but they referenced a lot of Batman lore within this whole movie which is why people want a Rated R Batman now.

 

[Art Barr]

fukk that movie.

the more i think about it.
it was two hours plus.
about a mother fukker imagining bullshyt.
just because he listened as a child.
then, and continued as an adult.
to never get an education or showcase one at all.
plus, to reference everything in life.
to his failed golddiggin ass mamie's sheltered ass bullshyt.
not to mention, he did not do shyt the joker is about at all.
especially as far as how the joker is a criminal mastermind narcissist and manipulator. an expert grassroots chemist and possible accredited pharmacist. Plus a brutual elaborate freak murderer with a slight of hand purpose.
Including the fact the joker is a ladies man.
all together eliminating a main cog.
as a plausible realm of reality in a movie called the joker.


movie is bullshyt.
that we might as well say

dune is a five star movie in movie magic revision.
As Kyle McLachlan played the hell out of Paul.
Picard is gurney halleck.
alia is excellent in her short time on screen.
I mean if we nuffin this joker by substandard to the quality standard of what the joker is as a baseline character.

this is like if we had a baron harconnen elseworld origin movie.
like we need a baron harconnen movie.
that never refers back once.
to double check if the backstory and actual character archetype of baron harconnen was already written.
Plus has a superior film version already.

shyt was like watching nwo fake sting win the wwe belt.
with fake razor ramon and fake diesel celebrating with cripple ache in msg.

shyt was some bullshyt.
this joker movie is the same wb cop and blow bullshyt.
they pulled for every movie in the dceu.

plus an even worse batman meets joker bait and switch. That they pulled in suicide squad with ben affleck.

except this time.
they never even created anything of quality.
that is higher in relation to any elseworld Batman. Plus it totally does exactly the same wack ass things. the dceu is criticized for. In not thoroughly knowing.
when to make film adaptation based decisions.
that make current and relevent sense.
on screen moving forward as a relevant art piece and legscy prooerty concurrent quality franchise.
that negligence leads to the failed and ongoing legacy of dc comics and film division
as a overall profitable drawing entity with Batman included in that.


art barr

 

[jwinfield]

Because of how good this joker was, well prpbably not get a joker in the dceu again

We've had two Jokers since people said no one would ever be able to be Joker again because of Heath.

If Reeves decides to uses the Joker in his trilogy, we'll get a bunch of people bytching about how they won't be able to beat Joaquin or how this Joker won't be the same Joker "we know and love" like there hasn't been a shyt ton of different versions of the Joker with their own motivations, style, and personality.

 

[Art Barr]

Even if they were interested in doing more movies with this current Joker, he's already old, the age gap would be quite a bit wide by the time Bruce is grown up and wearing the cowl.

How you get around that is, let the Joker who just had his origin told be the inspiration for a movement that spawns a modern day Joker.

this is stoopid.
as it does nuffin but give us Gotham the tv show on screen.
plus and once again,...

these fukk'n idiots left mad money on the floor.
just because they to stoopid to reference their own fukk'n properties source material. the same past critical conversations they never answer.
when the critical convo about their dead drawing properties and franchises.
That already say this shyt is phoney and low quality in every sense of the way.

where was the critique from the people on die hard and sons. When it came out the die hard movie was not even die hard. Just a script that changed the character names to john mcclaine and asked Bruce Willis to play. this movie does the same. When they could have just given us a different motif to port taxi driver instead of Wayne manner and a pakette of clown makeup. All wrapped together.
in an old failed draw r rated prison industrial economy marketing based material disguised as an expose.


shyt is more wb bullshyt.
that is evolved.
from warner's early nineties, fake c. Delores. Tucker made witch hunt on prison industrial economy made rap.
when, wb decided to wipe their hands of interscope's scope and direction in music backlash.
to prison industrial economy made rap.
except this time wb has used acquired knowledge from that discovery zone period after the financial loss of interscope. Then re-launched themselves.
with the applied knowledge from that brain trust.
all to make a profit. Off the same low quality absence of reason film take.
in that area of prison industrial economy marketed product.


how people are giving this inferior joker a pass,...i dunno.

maybe it is the same type of thing.
where critics and pr companies are using applied knowledge from the last star wars critical fiasco.
where it was obvious the critical contingent is paid for reviews.



art barr

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

We've had two Jokers since people said no one would ever be able to be Joker again because of Heath.

If Reeves decides to uses the Joker in his trilogy, we'll get a bunch of people bytching about how they won't be able to beat Joaquin or how this Joker won't be the same Joker "we know and love" like there hasn't been a shyt ton of different versions of the Joker with their own motivations, style, and personality.

Wrong, we have had ONE shyt joker in the dceu.