Joker vs. Bane

[AkaDemiK]

Son it wasnt just no team...this nikka Bane was literally taking orders from bytch. It was HER plan and he just helped her execute cause he was the muscle...the ending made me mad cause it kinda stripped away some of the intelligence I thought he had....and gave it to Talia..Joker had henchmen yes..cause that nikka was a LEADER..his plans are his own and he just got the gift of gab and psychosis to make other criminals follow suit...

where in the film did Talia directed Bane to do something? besides the end when she told him to tie up Bruce.

Where?

you're assuming, because she was the daughter of Ras that it must have been her plans alone to destroy gotham. Were you there during these Tali and Bane meetings?

give the nikka some credit for doing what he did. He just had a partner in crime, simple as that.

Also, they never made her the main villain at the end, they introduced a twist to show that Bane was not the only one who was leading this attack on Gotham. Nolan being Nolan with the twists n shyt. Talia was going to be the one to push the button regardless if Bane was alive or not at the end. That was the plan, she would carry the detonator and he would do his part and in the end it would all come together, except for bats and catwoman crushing the building.

 

[Monoblock]

After Joker, Batman still had fight left in him. After Bane, Batman was like, fukk it, fukk Gotham

Now you trollin

As far as Joker & Bane.....Bane broke Batman's back after the first fight. The first fight. What makes you think Bane is gonna entertain Joker's mental games for weeks on end?

I can flip this easily and say what makes you think Joker will entertain Bane with a fist fight. Hell the Joker always has a plan and even said he would not let the fate of his overall plan come down to a fist fight. Easier for Joker to blow up Talia and make Bane his bytch like he did Bats and have him crying in the corner in his cave prison for his broad.

 

[spliz]

where in the film did Talia directed Bane to do something? besides the end when she told him to tie up Bruce.

Where?

you're assuming, because she was the daughter of Ras that it must have been her plans alone to destroy gotham. Were you there during these Tali and Bane meetings?

give the nikka some credit for doing what he did. He just had a partner in crime, simple as that.

Also, they never made her the main villain at the end, they introduced a twist to show that Bane was not the only one who was leading this attack on Gotham. Nolan being Nolan with the twists n shyt. Talia was going to be the one to push the button regardless if Bane was alive or not at the end. That was the plan, she would carry the detonator and he would do his part and in the end it would all come together, except for bats and catwoman crushing the building.

Son was we watchin the same movie?..the shyt was what SHE WANTED...it was HER DREAM..they built it like she was the main ome behind the whole shyt...and Bane loved her and helped her...son .it was wack..they diminished him..even had u thinkin HE was the one who climbed outta the hole..and they ended up making it HER...they diminished his whole shyt at the end for a twist...

 

[AkaDemiK]

Son was we watchin the same movie?..the shyt was what SHE WANTED...it was HER DREAM..they built it like she was the main ome behind the whole shyt...and Bane loved her and helped her...son .it was wack..they diminished him..even had u thinkin HE was the one who climbed outta the hole..and they ended up making it HER...they diminished his whole shyt at the end for a twist...

it's called a twist for a reason. None of that diminished the crazy shyt he did during the movies. So what if the bytch had more reasons than Bane to burn down Gotham? the film had two villains in the end. Period. What Bane did in the film was greater than Talia during the last 15 mins.

Talia wasnt walking around with the nikka saying "snap his neck", "shoot him", "break batmans back"..etc

 

[1thouwow]

Joker retired Batman for 8 years. Bane retired him for 8 weeks.
Joker killed Batman's broad. Bane got killed by Batman's broad.
Joker was a G. Bane was a simp.
The end.

 

[spliz]

it's called a twist for a reason. None of that diminished the crazy shyt he did during the movies. So what if the bytch had more reasons than Bane to burn down Gotham? the film had two villains in the end. Period. What Bane did in the film was greater than Talia during the last 15 mins.

Talia wasnt walking around with the nikka saying "snap his neck", "shoot him", "break batmans back"..etc

Son..Bane was g'd up..but he was damn near a villain sidekick...Joker was the greater overall villain..

 

[Gifted one]

Joker, the twist with Talia being the brains behind everything kinda left a sour taste in my mouth. If only Heath would've lived, we would have seen the full potential he was going to display, an incomplete Joker role still outdid Bane's role. Joker got this

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Bane before the last half hour of the movie> Joker


He was definitely the more interesting character, his voice had me on and some of his quotes had me on mode


Joker was a nikka that literally did not give a fukk and did his own shyt, but I was watching the movie thinking "damn, If this nikka bane was a real life person, I would probs ride with him"....the nikka was a true leader of men, but the way he went out I can't fukk with on any level so joker gets it by an edge

 

[YBE]

it's called a twist for a reason. None of that diminished the crazy shyt he did during the movies. So what if the bytch had more reasons than Bane to burn down Gotham? the film had two villains in the end. Period. What Bane did in the film was greater than Talia during the last 15 mins.

Talia wasnt walking around with the nikka saying "snap his neck", "shoot him", "break batmans back"..etc

Honestly b....these dudes just prefer the Joker. And that's okay. That's all they have to say if thats how they feel. But using this "Talia was the brains of the whole operation" is just a crutch. Let's subtract Bane from the situation. There's no Bane in the movie, just Talia. What is Talia doing to Bruce? Let's be reality.

 

[spliz]

Honestly b....these dudes just prefer the Joker. And that's okay. That's all they got to say at the end of the day. But using this "Talia was the brains of the whole operation" is just a crutch. Let's subtract Bane from the situation. There's no Bane in the movie. What is Talia doing?

Son..noone is saying Bane wasnt crazy or gully or none of that..but the nikka wasnt the MASTERMIND...he was the executor....thats the difference between him and Joker..if he didnt go out the way he did in the end...I would be singing a different tune...matter of fact..what im sayin is one of the main criticisms of the movie that it received...and how Bane was portrayed...the ending fukked it up...they had u thinkin he was the one who climbed out of the hole by himself as a kid..the whole damn backstory that was supposed to be his..ended up being HERS...and it made his character LESS interesting cause of it..son..I WISH they didnt do that..but they did..so it is what it is..

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Son..noone is saying Bane wasnt crazy or gully or none of that..but the nikka wasnt the MASTERMIND...he was the executor....thats the difference between him and Joker..if he didnt go out the way he did in the end...I would be singing a different tune...matter of fact..what im sayin is one of the main criticisms of the movie that it received...and how Bane was portrayed...the ending fukked it up...they had u thinkin he was the one who climbed out of the hole by himself as a kid..the whole damn backstory that was supposed to be his..ended up being HERS...and it made his character LESS interesting cause of it..son..I WISH they didnt do that..but they did..so it is what it is..

tbph, Bane was the mastermind of the operation

Its all well and good having a boss go "shut down the stock market for me", but the person who actually goes out and does it has to be the mastermind of the whole operation. She wasn't the one making the plans, just giving mission objectives to him



when your boss at your job gives you a job to do...he doesn't do all the work to get it done does he? no...because that's what your job is...and then you go back and report to him what you did and whether it was successful or not

 

[YBE]

Son..noone is saying Bane wasnt crazy or gully or none of that..but the nikka wasnt the MASTERMIND...he was the executor....thats the difference between him and Joker..if he didnt go out the way he did in the end...I would be singing a different tune...matter of fact..what im sayin is one of the main criticisms of the movie that it received...and how Bane was portrayed...the ending fukked it up...they had u thinkin he was the one who climbed out of the hole by himself as a kid..the whole damn backstory that was supposed to be his..ended up being HERS...and it made his character LESS interesting cause of it..son..I WISH they didnt do that..but they did..so it is what it is..

You can give Talia props for being the "strategist" but, when we start acting like she would do anything to Gotham, Batman or anybody without her team of "Spartans", that's where I have to Bane for all intents and purposes was the only way any of her schemes were getting executed. I could see if Nolan made Talia into a physical female character like Selena in Underworld/Michone in Walking Dead but, he didnt. When Talia was out in the fray, she looked lost out there. Her death was underwhelming & made her look fragile. Just leads me to believe she would've been dead as fukk had she actually been putting her plans into place instead of Bane. Some lions for lambs shyt.

 

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[Fury616]

Somebody need to make a gif of Bane curled up and crying under Batman while Talia tells his story...dude was softee

 

[gluvnast]

i pick bane. people need to quit whining about "how it went out". he went out with a FUCCKIN MISSILE TO THE CHEST! whut more could you ASK FOR?? and as for the whole talia thing, i saw them more as EQUAL PARTNERS, as a TEAM... both being the LEADERS. he never took orders from her. even when she stated to keep batman alive so he can too "feel the fire", he dismissed that sh*T and was going to do it HIS WAY anyway!

2nd of all, and i made a THREAD about it. the JOKER DID NOT KILL ANY CIVILIANS! he only killed people who were either part of the law or to protect the law or the MOB who were bucking the law! he never once killed a civilian...and gave civilians the free will to make the choice themselves. all he did was create madness just for his pure entertainment. but end the end he wasn't that big of a threat. batman could of easily take him out if he REALLY wanted to, which would of broke his rule....with BANE, he COULD NOT BEAT THAT N*GGA! it took a LUCKY shot at the mask, just to have the advantage!

and whut BANE did was so sinister and with complete success. he literally, emotionally, physically, financially BROKE BATMAN/BRUCE WAYNE...in every way IMAGINABLE...HELD whut is considered in the comic books, the LARGEST CITY in the world hostage for 5 MONTHS, got a crew that was willing to DIE for the cause, annnnd was f*cckin' ras al ghul daughter!!

the joker was good for laughs and sh*t, but BANE was a FUCCKIN' G!!! every thing he SAID was a freaking QUOTABLE! so fucck whut all of y'all thing. i'm going with BANE!