Jon Gruden: I’m working hard to get one more shot at coaching

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He has done absolutely nothing as a coach except have white skin. His SB ring was him taking over a talented Dungy team. You'd have to be CFL bad to lose with that Bucs team. He has never eleveated a team. He's the literal definition of average ass white coach that looks the part
Was Dungy CFL bad to never win with that team?
 

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Was Dungy CFL bad to never win with that team?

:what:

Dungy built that team. I dont think u know how bad the Bucs were before him. Before Dungy, the Bucs never seen the playoffs since 1982. He took them there 4 times out of the 6 years he was there. He created the Tampa 2 that won them the SB. Stop the shytty hot take if you have no clue what u are talking about.
 

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Dungy built that team. I dont think u know how bad the Bucs were before him. Before Dungy, the Bucs never seen the playoffs since 1982. He took them there 4 times out of the 6 years he was there. He created the Tampa 2 that won them the SB. Stop the shytty hot take if you have no clue what u are talking about.
Why couldn’t Dungy win with “his” team?

The two best players on that team Dungy didn’t even draft :dead:


Sam Wyche drafted Brooks, Sapp, and Lynch
 

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Why couldn’t Dungy win with “his” team?

The two best players on that team Dungy didn’t even draft :dead:


Sam Wyche drafted Brooks, Sapp, and Lynch
2 players dont make up the entire team or system.

U really out here arguing a common fact about Dungy and the Bucs :heh:

the ONLY credit Jon gets is bringing his offensive talents to a team that won primarily due to Tony's defense. This is a fukking fact.
 

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2 players dont make up the entire team or system dummy.

U really out here arguing a common fact about Dungy and the Bucs :heh:

Everyone and their moms know that Dungy largely built that Bucs team.

I cant with u weirdo causal :snoop:
But they were the 2 best players :dead: . This is important. He inherited this from Sam wyche.


Again, why couldn’t Dungy win with his “team”? Why did they have their best season immediately after he left? Doesn’t that reflect poorly on Dungy?

Why are you dancing around the question
 

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But they were the 2 best players :dead: . This is important. He inherited this from Sam wyche.


Again, why couldn’t Dungy win with his “team”? Why did they have their best season immediately after he left?

Why are you dancing around the question
How many coaches can come in and change a shyt franchise into SB winners within 6 years? Let alone make the playoffs 4 of the 6 years they were rebuilding there? Not most, if any. U acting like Tony didnt come in and installed a defense he created which won the Bucs the SB is asinine. Just because Jon inherited the team and won doesnt mean Tony was the problem or held the team back. Jon got lucky and inherited the team at the exact moment they were good enough to win the SB. Especially the DEFENSE that Tony built. What happened to the Bucs then? Jon got exposed. This the last time im replying to your weird ass Jon Gruden stanning
 

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How many coaches can come in and change a shyt franchise into SB winners within 6 years? Let alone make the playoffs 4 of the 6 years they were there? Not most, if any. U acting like Tony didnt come in and installed a defense he created which won the Bucs the SB is asinine. Just because Jon inherited the team and won doesnt mean Tony was the problem or held the team back. Jon got lucky and inherited the team at the exact moment they were good enough to win the SB. Especially the DEFENSE that Tony built. What happened to the Bucs then? Jon got exposed. This the last time im replying to your weird ass Jon Gruden stanning
1.)Plenty of coaches have turned teams around in year 1 or quickly overall.

2.)Dungy never won shyt with that team. Why? If this was Jimmy Johnson or Bill Walsh who actually won titles with the teams they build before the new guy came in I could see this as a flex. I like how you are making excuses that they were just about to win before he got fired lol. Players on that team have stated they weren’t winning shyt with Dungy. But you know more than Warren Sapp I suppose.
 

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1.)Plenty of coaches have turned teams around in year 1 or quickly overall.

2.)Dungy never won shyt with that team. Why? If this was Jimmy Johnson or Bill Walsh who actually won titles with the teams they build before the new guy came in I could see this as a flex. I like how you are making excuses that they were just about to win before he got fired lol. Players on that team have stated they weren’t winning shyt with Dungy. But you know more than Warren Sapp I suppose.
Players on that team also praised his coaching and system he installed. The fukk is your point? Every player says good or bad things about their coaches. Gruden didnt do shyt after that season he inherited that Bucs team. He never did shyt before nor after. he's an avg ass coach. The fact u stan him is weird as fukk but u do u
 

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Players on that team also praised his coaching and system he installed. The fukk is your point? Every player says good or bad things about their coaches. Gruden didnt do shyt after that season he inherited that Bucs team. He never did shyt before nor after. he's an avg ass coach. The fact u stan him is weird as fukk but u do u
1.)I thought you said you’re not replying again.

2.)And they were happy for a change because they knew they were never winning shyt with Dungy. The second he left they had their best season ever and won a title.

3.)But again, Dungy didn’t win shyt with that team, which is why they fired him.

4.)In not “stanning” him for saying facts like Dungy didn’t draft the two best players on the team
 

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1.)I thought you said you’re not replying again.

2.)And they were happy for a change because they knew they were never winning shyt with Dungy. The second he left they had their best season ever and won a title.

3.)But again, Dungy didn’t win shyt with that team, which is why they fired him.

4.)In not “stanning” him for saying facts like Dungy didn’t draft the two best players on the team
nobody said Tony drafted the two best players. U just inserting weird shyt for your narrative. I said, TONY BUILT THE CORE OF THE TEAM INCLUDING THE DEFENSE THAT WON THE SB.

Trouble reading?
 

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nobody said Tony drafted the two best players. U just inserting weird shyt for your narrative. I said, TONY BUILT THE CORE OF THE TEAM INCLUDING THE DEFENSE THAT WON THE SB.

Trouble reading?
Yeah so the two best players(and 3 of the top 5) were drafted by someone else and Tony didn’t win shyt with his own team?

Why couldn’t he win with them but another coach did?

How is it a flex when the team got better after you left :dead:
 

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Yeah so the two best players(and 3 of the top 5) were drafted by someone else and Tony didn’t win shyt with his own team?

Why couldn’t he win with them but another coach did?

How is it a flex when the team got better after you left :dead:
The offense was always the issue, not the team. Offense was too conservative under Tony and without a legit QB, it wasnt going anywhere. But did they win because of the offense? No. They won due to thier defense which Jon has fukk all to do with. Why thats so hard for u to understand is beyond me. If Bucs would of won the SB due to the offense, you have a point. But they won due to the defense Tony built and installed. Thats why everyone and their moms say Jon won with TONY's team.

This is like saying if Brian Billick got fired in 1999, and the 2000 Raven's won, whatever coach that took over is responsible :heh:
 
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