Jon Jones & Daniel Cormier brawl at UFC Press Conference

[The Infamous]

JESUS CHRIST YOUR A DUMB ASS

I said he should fight Gus for the belt, His heavyweight wins aren't valid because he's moving to A DIFFERENT WEIGHT CLASS

if he would have fought Gus a few months ago we wouldn't be having to this discussion about his competition

but dumb asses like you were like NOOOOOOOOOOO, you will kill the cotenders

There's nothing in that post that contradicts anything I said in this thread

I just said Roy was past his prime, he's still too big for any of the light heavyweights besides Jones

I said Cormier and Gus should've fought for the spot instead of both of them getting easy fights

what don't you post the entire post, instead of picking out shyt

You completely contradicted yourself and got exposed for it. No amount of shouting, name calling and useless points is going to change that.

 

[Master Teacher]

You really are holding on to these Rampage/Shogun losses for dear life huh? Rampage lost that fight and even he admitted that. The Shogun loss was an anomaly. 9/10 Machida beats Shogun. Esp now. It remains to be seen what Cormier is. He hasn't faced a top ranked opponent in any division since 12.

If Rampage lost to Machida than Machida lost to Shogun the first fight and Shogun proved by finsihing him in the second

Machida HAD TROUBLE WITH HENDO, lets be serious man, even if he beat rampage, he had trouble with rampage who was past his prime

 

[Master Teacher]

You completely contradicted yourself and got exposed for it. No amount of shouting, name calling and useless points is going to change that.

Point out the contradiction I don't see it

Cormier didn't deserve the shot, neither did gus, they should have fought each other for it

thats what I was arguing

the UFC sets up matches like the WWE, and it isn't right

I said Roy Nelson was tough but no match for new breed of athelte, which would be JDS, and Cain
josh barnett is past prime, nobody said it wasn't, its a fact, hasnt even been brought up in this thread

You can't compare HEAVYWEIGHT to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT

a bum at HEAVYWEIGHT can beat good light heavyweights

The weight matters

that is a fact

why does that have to do with Roy Nelson being able to beat all the light heavyweights besides jones, he's too big for them

 

[The Infamous]

You really are holding on to these Rampage/Shogun losses for dear life huh? Rampage lost that fight and even he admitted that. The Shogun loss was an anomaly. 9/10 Machida beats Shogun. Esp now. It remains to be seen what Cormier is. He hasn't faced a top ranked opponent in any division since 12.

Master Teacher 2 months ago: Cormier doesn't deserve a title shot at all, he's beaten nobody, his HW wins are not valid. Beating old man Hendo shouldn't get you a shot at Jones.

Master Teacher now: Cormier is Jones' toughest test, he was a legit HW contender, Roy Nelson could beat every LHW maybe even Jones. Cormier hasn't lost a round in the HW division.

Roy Nelson goes from being 'tough' to a complete MMA fighter who can rip through the LHW division.

 

[The G.O.D II]

couldnt be bothered reading this thread u will have to point to
me where it was written that machida "sucks" and your post would've been far more effective if you werent taking this roundabout route just to argue what a formidsble opponent machida would be for machida. I mean can you say moot point about a fight that basically has no chance of happening in the immediate future. I mean can u say moot point?

Breh, Its tweedle dee and twiddle dum(I know I prolly fukked that up but you get, wait no you don't) You were just in here talking about Machida looks drawn out at MW and has lost his power. When that is the furthest thing. IDK even know what you are trying to say with the last sentence. Are you talking Machida/Cormier? That wasn't even directed at you

 

[The G.O.D II]

If Rampage lost to Machida than Machida lost to Shogun the first fight and Shogun proved by finsihing him in the second

Machida HAD TROUBLE WITH HENDO, lets be serious man, even if he beat rampage, he had trouble with rampage who was past his prime

Machida didn't have trouble with those guys. He was hesitant which is always hes achilles heel and makes it appear that his opponent won just by keeping busier.

 

[Master Teacher]

Machida didn't have trouble with those guys. He was hesitant which is always hes achilles heel and makes it appear that his opponent won just by keeping busier.

Okay man if you say so, doesn't matter, because Cormier would beat him easily and the fight would never happen, he's too strong for machida, nothing against machida its just facts, machida was beating jones until he got manhandled, its just the reality of facing some who can physically dominate you

in MMA there are few elite fighters, Cormier has the ability to cope with jon jones size, in a different manner than gus did, and his proved it against heavy guys

not saying they are more skilled

I already said the LHW was the best division in the UFC as competition, nobody defending the title besides Jones, since I can't even remember, I think rampage might have had a one title defense

but, it doesn't change the fact, that the bigger guys can beat them even though they're technically better fighters, to cope with that size is a different animal

Jon Jones is naturally bigger than Cormier, and he took to those big dudes at HW, that says a lot, nevermind the skills that is shown

I already said if Jon Jones win this fight he's the greatest, I'm just arguing against people thinking cormier not above the machidas of the world because he is

 

[The Infamous]

You're relying heavily on Cormier's HW wins/career to support your claim, when (according to yourself) his accomplishments at HW were completely invalid and lackluster a couple of months ago.

 

[joeychizzle]

 

[Roman Brady]

Breh, Its tweedle dee and twiddle dum(I know I prolly fukked that up but you get, wait no you don't) You were just in here talking about Machida looks drawn out at MW and has lost his power. When that is the furthest thing.

You saw the mousasi fight right? How many times did he tag him? dude was basically having his way with him and mousasi just kept plodding forward like he was facing dominiqe cruz. Now name a time at lhw where machida tooled a dude that much and the fight wasnt stopped or his opponent wasnt out of sorts in the very least

 

[Roman Brady]

Machida is deceptively strong, has excellent takedown defence, is much faster and is a better striker than DC. He has the tools/abilities to beat Cormier.

strange how you are of this opinion now in the machida vs weidman ppv thread you were spouting shyt to try and down play it like ppl were seeing things. Ole contrarian for the sake of being contrarian ass fligga

 

[The Infamous]

Let's just ignore the fact that Mousasi has an excellent chin (has never been finished by strikes and to my knowledge has never been dropped in a fight).

 

[The Infamous]

strange how you are of this opinion now in the machida vs weidman ppv thread you were spouting shyt to try and down play it like ppl were seeing things. Ole contrarian for the sake of being contrarian ass fligga

What are you saying?

 

[Roman Brady]

Let's just ignore the fact that Mousasi has an excellent chin, has never been finished by strikes and to my knowledge has never been dropped in a fight.

has mousasi ever been in a "fight" where he was getting worked/tagged like the machida fight before? If not your post has little relevance to the topic at hand.

Like i said last 2 fights lyoto has basically unloaded the kitchen sink and his opponents shrugged it off, weidman even giving him the "come on come girl show me something" but i guess every opponent he tags relentlessly that can still make it to post fight presser is a granite chin monster nothing to do with machida's decreased power (at mw) or anything

 

[Roman Brady]

What are you saying?

go read your posts in that thread u indecesive clown.