Jon Jones vs Mike Tyson

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Saying he was competitive in all is fights is a f'n joke. After saying something that stupid, it renders your opinion completely useless.

technically he had 2 fights in the UFC. 1 he won (how do u scrape by against a guy who did nothing?), and he slammed mitrione 3 times before he gassed and got mounted...it was a competitive fight.
 

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technically he had 2 fights in the UFC. 1 he won (how do u scrape by against a guy who did nothing?), and he slammed mitrione 3 times before he gassed and got mounted...it was a competitive fight.

I'm including TUF as well. To be fair, Kimbo didn't do that much either, also two judges scored a round for the guy who did 'nothing'.

The Mitrione fight wasn't competitive. It was one-sided.
 

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I said tyson is NOT a brawler you idiot. anyway, none of us know what would happen.
my fault cuzzin misread no need for name callin, stick to the debate.....and tyson in his prime did hav a brawler style so that why i thought i read u sayin that.....any way brawler or not thos lil short arms of mike wudnt stand a chance against that 84 inch reach and if tyson wud be dumb enough to rush in to get past that reach i dnt think for a second a romain greco wrestler of jones skill level wudnt immediately counter and take mike down and once that happins i doubt mike gettin back up.....
 

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Another mistake a lot of you are making: you assume the only difference between regular boxing and boxing in MMA is the size of the gloves.

So you're suggesting to me that a punch from Tyson in MMA gloves is equal or lesser in impact than standard boxing gloves?
 

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So you're suggesting to me that a punch from Tyson in MMA gloves is equal or lesser in impact than standard boxing gloves?

No, I'm suggesting that striking in MMA requires different footwork, stances, and technique because of the existence of kicks and takedowns.
 

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Tyson could knock Jones out while lying on his back.

:comeon:

lmao no, he couldn't. stop it kids. just stop it. tyson had massive power but some of y'all are acting like dude is the incredible hulk or something.

and if tyson was on his back, jones would sleep him with a sub or with hellbows in no time flat.

bones would have problems with mike when they're standing, not if it went to the ground...well, unless mike dropped jones, that is.
 

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so in this scrap.....
how is bones going to keep from getting hit and hurt.
you can play mike tyson punch out perfect and not get hit.
yet you are not playing in the street versus tyson.
while not getting hit,..when you get hit.
it will turn into disorientation and fight or flight.
tyson will finish you in that situation at his best out the time machine.

tyson

-play fights with tigers
-trained by cus d'amato. for the sole purpose of correcting the mistake of floyd patterson's loss to cassius clay. trained exclusively in beating the tall reach elusive fighter.
anyone who knows of patterson/cus/tyson knows this.
not many in this thread do though
-former stick up gate dope house robber in his teens.
who buddy list includes hamo, the guy originally credited with being part od haitian jack's crew and hitman.
-consistently locked up in teen detention centers in the real ny is grimey era
-grew up and survived in an era where martial arts/grappling/shoot fighting were a big street practice including the 52.
-consistently fought for his life before cus training in the street
-in a ring filled brawl ko's a number of security men during the fray looking to take shoot in and him down, off of his feet. tyson was still stsnding over numerous broken jawed security teams's men. guys on the personal multiple trained arts security team of the opposite corner.
-after cus training in the street,...was isolated by his own will. to not kill anyone in the ny streets in a street fight.
-emotional powderkeg
-tackled puss ass lennox lewis in a fray of people punched lewis in the guard. after biting and securing his leg.
-ko, of two assailants at the same time. attempting to rob him. putting both in the hospital. further securing the legacy of iron mike tyson.
-one of the top accredited boxing and ring sports historians in history. another fact people are forgetting about.
-tyson's knowledge of the slick and queensbury dirty tactics in the sport and history
-tyson's knowledge of queensburybdirty tactics. consistently countered holyfield's dirty tactic of rubbing top of the head bacteria and pathogens into the region of the skull and eyewell. which tyson countered. after complaining to the ref, and seizing the day after being ignored. bit holyfield's ear off in two places. which he was vilified for till. , holyfield rahman exonerated him. by showing the results of the dirty old man queensbury outlawed tactics holyfield employed.

jon bones jones

-uses spinning backhand manuevers: which tyson would duck and unleash fire and ko jones via compact stature footwork speed and multiple punch single ko punching power!

juco wrasslin champion : who watched tape and ramped up.
nowhere near the catalog of millimeter film that tyson owns. or viewed consistently for his days and nights at cus d'amato's for multiple decades outdating bones taped study.
nor, is bones credited as being a ring sports historian like tyson.

-juco wrasslin champion
nowhere near the levels of slick, tyson knows from being trainee by d'amato or from confrontations in the street.

-slight tall llthe build
tyson was trained as a specific point to right the wrongs of patterson/clay.
effectively with rooney and cus,..tyson displayed the extra auxilliary and varriables needed to down his type of opponenet. bones is nowhere near the level of boxer clay was. nor does bones have the level of slick needed to shoot in on tyson.
-to effectvely shoot on tyson and have success space is needed.
how is bones going to shoot on the inside versus tyson. who has better footwork and has one punch compact punching ko power in one short three to six inch forward blows.
plus tyson cut off effective space, and never allowed himself to be hunted at this particular time. jones does not have the boxing pedigree.
nor does jones have the power of the jab to dictate the exchange or action of the encounter versus tyson.

to keep tyson honest in this exchange, at all!

so how is jones effectvely going to navigate being on the outside.
to stalk tyson for a shoot-in takedown.
the only shoot-in jones will have is in desperstion hurt from a tyson blow. which would render jones to disoriented in the fray.
to be able to successfully shoot in on the aggressor tyson.

tyson would finish jones in this situation,...which is the only logical situation.
as jones does not have the ring general ship or punching power.
nor the slick needed to navigate on the outside versus a stalking tyson.

who at that time with rooney was one of the best of this gen. at ring generalship, limiting space, and constantly being the strategic aggressor. plus was highly effective against fighter moving backwards to gain space in the fray.
tyson was specifically trained to beat any wiley lithe framed boxer.
as jones is no ali trained style boxer and lacks the punching power of the jab, slick, and ring generalship.

to stop tyson out the time machine in this encounter in the street.

-used insider trading, tape and reality tv. to get over the fear of page like evans on the filming of the ufc reality tv.
the tyson we would get out the delorean would be the tyson trained by rooney before douglas. so this would be a tyson that had no frame of study to figure out.

so how in the fukk does jones stand a chance against tyson.
a tyson, who at that point was better trained. had no blueprint for loss.

plus,...was specifically trained to beat clay/ali.

plus cus knew the blueprint to beat a mobile lithe frame guy.

evident by:

cus playfully gets one in on ali!!

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

for all you dumb nikkaz.

there are more actual facts and pedigree as to why tyson in a street fight would win.

people are forgetting tyson is a ring sport historian as well.

he has seen these fights and been in these gyms with boxing to mma guys as well.

early on,..not as just a hobby or interest.
tyson would respond with fire to a jones shooting.

if the boy king can respond with fire and successfully keep diaz from taking him down and reconstruct diaz's face. as a semi decent pro boxer, using only hands skills. to defend against a shooting diaz...i would think tyson with heavier hands, higher volumized punching power, mass and faster everything.
would do the same to jones. if jones shot in, and i believe tyson has encountered numeros people trying to take him off of his feet.


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lmao no, he couldn't. stop it kids. just stop it. tyson had massive power but some of y'all are acting like dude is the incredible hulk or something.

and if tyson was on his back, jones would sleep him with a sub or with hellbows in no time flat.

bones would have problems with mike when they're standing, not if it went to the ground...well, unless mike dropped jones, that is.

:aicmon:

You don't think one the hardest punching men and the history of the world could knock a man out, laying on his back? I probably could do it,
 

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so in this scrap.....
how is bones going to keep from getting hit and hurt.
you can play mike tyson punch out perfect and not get hit.
yet you are not playing in the street versus tyson.
while not getting hit,..when you get hit.
it will turn into disorientation and fight or flight.
tyson will finish you in that situation at his best out the time machine.

tyson

-play fights with tigers
-trained by cus d'amato. for the sole purpose of correcting the mistake of floyd patterson's loss to cassius clay. trained exclusively in beating the tall reach elusive fighter.
anyone who knows of patterson/cus/tyson knows this.
not many in this thread do though
-former stick up gate dope house robber in his teens.
who buddy list includes hamo, the guy originally credited with being part od haitian jack's crew and hitman.
-consistently locked up in teen detention centers in the real ny is grimey era
-consistently fought for his life before cus training in the street
-in a ring filled brawl ko's a number of security men during the fray looking to take shoot in and him down, off of his feet. tyson was still stsnding over numerous broken jawed security teams's men. guys on the personal multiple trained arts security team of the opposite corner.
-after cus training in the street,...was isolated by his own will. to not kill anyone in the ny streets in a street fight.
-emotional powderkeg
-tackled puss ass lennox lewis in a fray of people punched lewis in the guard. after biting and securing his leg.
-ko, of two assailants at the same time. attempting to rob him. putting both in the hospital. further securing the legacy of iron mike tyson.
-one of the top accredited boxing and ring sports historians in history. another fact people are forgetting about.
-tyson's knowledge of the slick and queensbury dirty tactics in the sport and history
-tyson's knowledge of queensburybdirty tactics. consistently countered holyfield's dirty tactic of rubbing top of the head bacteria and pathogens into the region of the skull and eyewell. which tyson countered. after complaining to the ref, and seizing the day after being ignored. bit holyfield's ear off in two places. which he was vilified for till. , holyfield rahman exonerated him. by showing the results of the dirty old man queensbury outlawed tactics holyfield employed.

jon bones jones

-uses spinning backhand manuevers: which tyson would duck and unleash fire and ko jones via compact stature footwork speed and multiple punch single ko punching power!

juco wrasslin champion : who watched tape and ramped up.
nowhere near the catalog of millimeter film that tyson owns. or viewed consistently for his days and nights at cus d'amato's for multiple decades outdating bones taped study.
nor, is bones credited as being a ring sports historian like tyson.

-juco wrasslin champion
nowhere near the levels of slick, tyson knows from being trainee by d'amato or from confrontations in the street.

-slight tall llthe build
tyson was trained as a specific point to right the wrongs of patterson/clay.
effectively with rooney and cus,..tyson displayed the extra auxilliary and varriables needed to down his type of opponenet. bones is nowhere near the level of boxer clay was. nor does bones have the level of slick needed to shoot in on tyson.
-to effectvely shoot on tyson and have success space is needed.
how is bones going to shoot on the inside versus tyson. who has better footwork and has one punch compact punching ko power in one short three to six inch forward blows.
plus tyson cut off effective space, and never allowed himself to be hunted at this particular time. jones does not have the boxing pedigree.
nor does jones have the power of the jab to dictate the exchange or action of the encounter versus tyson.

to keep tyson honest in this exchange, at all!

so how is jones effectvely going to navigate being on the outside.
to stalk tyson for a shoot-in takedown.
the only shoot-in jones will have is in desperstion hurt from a tyson blow. which would render jones to disoriented in the fray.
to be able to successfully shoot in on the aggressor tyson.

tyson woul finish jones in this situation,...which is the only logical situation.
as jones does not have the ring genersl ship or punching powe.
nor the slick needed to navigste on the outside versus a tyson.

who at that time with rooney was ine of the best of this gen. at ring generalship, limiting space, and constantly being the aggressor. plus tyson was specifically trained to beat any wiley lithe framed boxer.
as jones is no ali trained style boxer and lack the punching power of the jab, slick, and ring generalship.

to stop tyson out the time machine in this encounter in the street.

-used insider trading, tape and reality tv. to get over the fear of page like evans on the filming of the ufc reality tv.
the tyson we would get out the delorean would be the tyson trained by rooney before douglas. so this would be a tyson that had no frame of study to figure out.

so how in the fukk does jones stand a chance against tyson.
a tyson, who at that point was better trained. had no blueprint for loss.

plus,...was specifically trained to beat clay/ali.

plus cus knew the blueprint to beat a mobile lithe frame guy.

evident by:

cus playfully gets one in on ali!!

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

for all you dumb nikkaz.

there are more actual facts and pedigree as to why tyson in a street fight would win.

people are forgetting tyson is a ring sport historian as well.

he has seen these fights and been in these gyms with boxing to mma guys as well.

early on,..not as just a hobby or interest.
tyson would respond with fire to a jones shooting.

if the boy king can respond with fire and successfully keep diaz from taking him down and reconstruct diaz's face. as a semi decent pro boxer, using only hands skills. to defend against a shooting diaz...i would think tyson with heavier hands, higher volumized punching power, mass and faster everything.
would do the same to jones. if jones shot in, and i believe tyson has encountered people trying to tske him off of his feet.


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Never saw that classic vid. Props!
 

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so in this scrap.....
how is bones going to keep from getting hit and hurt.
you can play mike tyson punch out perfect and not get hit.
yet you are not playing in the street versus tyson.
while not getting hit,..when you get hit.
it will turn into disorientation and fight or flight.
tyson will finish you in that situation at his best out the time machine.

tyson

-play fights with tigers
-trained by cus d'amato. for the sole purpose of correcting the mistake of floyd patterson's loss to cassius clay. trained exclusively in beating the tall reach elusive fighter.
anyone who knows of patterson/cus/tyson knows this.
not many in this thread do though
-former stick up gate dope house robber in his teens.
who buddy list includes hamo, the guy originally credited with being part od haitian jack's crew and hitman.
-consistently locked up in teen detention centers in the real ny is grimey era
-grew up and survived in an era where martial arts/grappling/shoot fighting were a big street practice including the 52.
-consistently fought for his life before cus training in the street
-in a ring filled brawl ko's a number of security men during the fray looking to take shoot in and him down, off of his feet. tyson was still stsnding over numerous broken jawed security teams's men. guys on the personal multiple trained arts security team of the opposite corner.
-after cus training in the street,...was isolated by his own will. to not kill anyone in the ny streets in a street fight.
-emotional powderkeg
-tackled puss ass lennox lewis in a fray of people punched lewis in the guard. after biting and securing his leg.
-ko, of two assailants at the same time. attempting to rob him. putting both in the hospital. further securing the legacy of iron mike tyson.
-one of the top accredited boxing and ring sports historians in history. another fact people are forgetting about.
-tyson's knowledge of the slick and queensbury dirty tactics in the sport and history
-tyson's knowledge of queensburybdirty tactics. consistently countered holyfield's dirty tactic of rubbing top of the head bacteria and pathogens into the region of the skull and eyewell. which tyson countered. after complaining to the ref, and seizing the day after being ignored. bit holyfield's ear off in two places. which he was vilified for till. , holyfield rahman exonerated him. by showing the results of the dirty old man queensbury outlawed tactics holyfield employed.

jon bones jones

-uses spinning backhand manuevers: which tyson would duck and unleash fire and ko jones via compact stature footwork speed and multiple punch single ko punching power!

juco wrasslin champion : who watched tape and ramped up.
nowhere near the catalog of millimeter film that tyson owns. or viewed consistently for his days and nights at cus d'amato's for multiple decades outdating bones taped study.
nor, is bones credited as being a ring sports historian like tyson.

-juco wrasslin champion
nowhere near the levels of slick, tyson knows from being trainee by d'amato or from confrontations in the street.

-slight tall llthe build
tyson was trained as a specific point to right the wrongs of patterson/clay.
effectively with rooney and cus,..tyson displayed the extra auxilliary and varriables needed to down his type of opponenet. bones is nowhere near the level of boxer clay was. nor does bones have the level of slick needed to shoot in on tyson.
-to effectvely shoot on tyson and have success space is needed.
how is bones going to shoot on the inside versus tyson. who has better footwork and has one punch compact punching ko power in one short three to six inch forward blows.
plus tyson cut off effective space, and never allowed himself to be hunted at this particular time. jones does not have the boxing pedigree.
nor does jones have the power of the jab to dictate the exchange or action of the encounter versus tyson.

to keep tyson honest in this exchange, at all!

so how is jones effectvely going to navigate being on the outside.
to stalk tyson for a shoot-in takedown.
the only shoot-in jones will have is in desperstion hurt from a tyson blow. which would render jones to disoriented in the fray.
to be able to successfully shoot in on the aggressor tyson.

tyson woul finish jones in this situation,...which is the only logical situation.
as jones does not have the ring genersl ship or punching powe.
nor the slick needed to navigste on the outside versus a tyson.

who at that time with rooney was ine of the best of this gen. at ring generalship, limiting space, and constantly being the aggressor. plus tyson was specifically trained to beat any wiley lithe framed boxer.
as jones is no ali trained style boxer and lack the punching power of the jab, slick, and ring generalship.

to stop tyson out the time machine in this encounter in the street.

-used insider trading, tape and reality tv. to get over the fear of page like evans on the filming of the ufc reality tv.
the tyson we would get out the delorean would be the tyson trained by rooney before douglas. so this would be a tyson that had no frame of study to figure out.

so how in the fukk does jones stand a chance against tyson.
a tyson, who at that point was better trained. had no blueprint for loss.

plus,...was specifically trained to beat clay/ali.

plus cus knew the blueprint to beat a mobile lithe frame guy.

evident by:

cus playfully gets one in on ali!!

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

for all you dumb nikkaz.

there are more actual facts and pedigree as to why tyson in a street fight would win.

people are forgetting tyson is a ring sport historian as well.

he has seen these fights and been in these gyms with boxing to mma guys as well.

early on,..not as just a hobby or interest.
tyson would respond with fire to a jones shooting.

if the boy king can respond with fire and successfully keep diaz from taking him down and reconstruct diaz's face. as a semi decent pro boxer, using only hands skills. to defend against a shooting diaz...i would think tyson with heavier hands, higher volumized punching power, mass and faster everything.
would do the same to jones. if jones shot in, and i believe tyson has encountered people trying to tske him off of his feet.


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I'm including TUF as well.

i can see that but those werent ufc fights. do u go around saying roy nelson is 4-3 in the ufc, or 7-3? not important..

To be fair, Kimbo didn't do that much either

one guy came to fight the other guy came to run :yeshrug: and the 1st round of mitrione/kimbo was competitive, mitrione wouldnt have got dumped so many times if it wasnt
 

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Never saw that classic vid. Props!

preciate it,...handshake!

i saw that as a kid.
shyt is funny cause ali and cus act a fool.
the battle of ego's,...
plus cus still studying and showing his prowess of what if.

cus could show off his studied counters versus ali to fight ali is hilarious!


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