Jon Stewart interviews State Senator Nathan Dahm (R-OK) on America's gun problem. Absolute masterclass (8:27)

[MoshpitMazi]

Ban all guns today and the number one killer of black males 35 and under would still be firearms….

That’s how I know this forum is not filled black people.

I don’t agree. We aren’t inherently violent and the violence that does happen within black communities can be traced to sociopath economic conditions along with a lower quality of life.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

It's a ashame that a former comedian provides more journalism than journalists.

Comedians are some of the real ones

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

Correct. Those are called straw purchases. Its already illegal but there's very little oversight in stopping a gun retailer from selling truckloads of guns to someone who they know is most likely reselling them on the black market. Its easy for a manufacturer to spot, but it negatively affects their bottom line. The ATF can strong arm manufacturers to tip them off to shade retailers. Creating such legislation would directly benefit black communities, without putting any restrictions on legal gun buyers.

So while straw purchases are the primary source if illegal guns in places like LA, Chicago, and NYC. In places like Detroit, kids steal from their parents and neighbors during a robbery to get their guns. There definitely could be new laws in place limit guns in homes of troubled teens. Again another thing groups like the NRA fail to address "In-House". If I had a son who was suffering mental illness or hanging with rift raff, I'd get rid of my guns. Unfortunately, no one talks about this. This solves a lot of school shooter problems.

See, you said nothing unreasonable here. But, that legislation you speak of is the exact sort of thing that these politicians that REPRESENT the manufacturers don't want and delude thecoli into thinking they don't want.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

At what point do liberals realize fact checking people who don't believe in facts has never worked and will never work? This content is made specifically to appeal to people on twitter who watch this shyt and get excited at Jon "owning" some crazy right winger but...nobody else cares. It's not changing anyone else's minds.

Win elections and pass your agenda. That's all that matters. We literally saw a kindergarten get shot up and nothing happened, a decade ago.

yes it does less and less people are turning right due to information like this .

 

[Cakebatter]

See, you said nothing unreasonable here. But, that legislation you speak of is the exact sort of thing that these politicians that REPRESENT the manufacturers don't want and delude thecoli into thinking they don't want.

I was reasonable from jump street. I mentioned straw purchases in my very first post on this thread. The entire conversation is messy. Jon Stewart throws out a 50k figure for gun deaths when only 20k are homicides. Jon Stewart then brings up guns making it difficult to for cops, when have never been friends of the black community. Look at the origins of Qualified Immunuty. It was created by SCOTUS to stop black people during the civil rights movement from suing cops for overlooking violence from racists like the KKK. Even MLK jr filed for a CCW.

There's reducing gun violence and there is reducing homicides. They should be one in the same, but most anti-gun nuts pretend they arent the same when stats dont back up their arguments.

For historical data on homicides in UK you can find them HERE. Uk gun bans started in the late 80s, but by 1997, they banned nearly all guns. If you look at the stats homicides went stayed the same or went up until 2005, then it drops off. If you look at US historical homicide data HERE, you will see a steady decline in overall homicides as well despite a trending relaxing of gun laws.

The US has plenty of gun regulations like background checks and 7 day waiting periods. Most simply aren't being used properly. The Virginia Tech shooter should have been stopped by the background check, yet he became the WOAT school shooter. I am not the typically white gun advocate. I look at things from a black perspective as Blacks have a long history of gun ownership and a lot of gun laws were inacted to keep us down. Thr Mulford Act of California was drafted with help by the NRA and signed by Ronald Reagan, a Republicam, to limit the use and ownership of guns by Black Panthers, who used them to protect their own streets.

 

[Cakebatter]

Japan

Please stop. Japan started banning guns in 1958. There is no useful data to back up your claim. There isnt even reliable data in the US going back that far.