Jonathan Coachman Talks About fans complaining about the product

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I agree with what he's saying for the most part, though EVERYTHING put in the atmosphere for public consumption is subject to criticism. Especially when the producers aren't even trying to put out a better product. Hell, even their main storylines for the past few years (Bryan, Shane, etc.) are centered around them knowing and still not caring about doing the same old shyt forever. I'd argue that they wouldn't be doing any better this year without all the injuries. You'd just see different faces in the same places.

They would not have a viewer in me if it wasn't for TSC. This place makes that shyt so fun. I'll miss Raw tonight (shoutout to the freeway) and it's doubtful that I go back and watch the show, but I will go back and read the TSC thread as soon as I get a few free minutes.
 
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Some mark on a forum I was browsing said Ambrose buried the social outcast on Smackdown.:comeon:


I learned that lesson a LONG time ago. Cats complain about people here but our worst/weirdest poster has nothing on some of the folks on other wrestling boards.


Other than a tweet here or there this is the only place I talk wrestling
 

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I learned that lesson a LONG time ago. Cats complain about people here but our worst/weirdest poster has nothing on some of the folks on other wrestling boards.


Other than a tweet here or there this is the only place I talk wrestling

TSC is the most unique thing about the Coli and its biggest treasure. This is the only forum on the net where you can discuss wrestling without it getting too creepy or corny.
 

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That's like watching Game of Thrones and saying yo Brann needs a push. Why Khaleesi got an army, she must have been hand picked by George R Martin to get the Iron Throne let's boo her

This is one of the worst comparisons I've ever seen on this subforum. Practically every main and supporting character on GoT is fleshed out, has a purpose, is given good dialogue that fits their character and the overall show has great direction and plot continuity. On the other hand you have WWE where practically every character (with exceptions that can be counted on a single hand) have bland, non-unique, unorganic character traits, cut promos that can be described by the same adjectives, and have generic, poorly-thought out storylines to work with. Even their main babyfaces that they put all of their focus into like Cena and Reigns have none of the charisma, unique style or verbiage that former top guys like Rock, Austin, Flair, Hoegan, Savage, etc had.

If George RR Martin decided to make his main protagonist a bland, generic "babyface" following a terrible, inconsistent storyline I'm sure plenty of people would call the show garbage and stop watching. I agree with your point about people sticking around every week like battered wives to complain about a product they don't enjoy instead of just not watching (haven't watched since 09 myself), but this was a very bad comparison.
 

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This is one of the worst comparisons I've ever seen on this subforum. Practically every main and supporting character on GoT is fleshed out, has a purpose, is given good dialogue that fits their character and the overall show has great direction and plot continuity. On the other hand you have WWE where practically every character (with exceptions that can be counted on a single hand) have bland, non-unique, unorganic character traits, cut promos that can be described by the same adjectives, and have generic, poorly-thought out storylines to work with. Even their main babyfaces that they put all of their focus into like Cena and Reigns have none of the charisma, unique style or verbiage that former top guys like Rock, Austin, Flair, Hoegan, Savage, etc had.

If George RR Martin decided to make his main protagonist a bland, generic "babyface" following a terrible, inconsistent storyline I'm sure plenty of people would call the show garbage and stop watching. I agree with your point about people sticking around every week like battered wives to complain about a product they don't enjoy instead of just not watching (haven't watched since 09 myself), but this was a very bad comparison.



If a sports team is bad, the gate drops. You fukkers will watch this shyt with grimaces and hatred in your blood every week. nikkas pay $200 to complain about Cesaros push. fukk Cesaro. fukk Pushes. I'm gonna eat my hot wings and just have fun.

I'm not saying we can't criticize wrasslin', but dudes go overboard. It's not that fukking deep. We're all entitled to our opinion tho absolutely.

I don't even care enough to write a fully thought out rebuttla. My main point is, ITS JUST A TV SHOW.
 

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Some people need to seriously consider his advice. "Just enjoy it for what it is" , otherwise there is no point watching a 3 hour show you despise every Monday.

I barely even watch Raw anymore. Coli #TSC is how I keep up with the fukkery, and its the only place I can talk about wrestling on the net and have fun
 

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If a sports team is bad, the gate drops. You fukkers will watch this shyt with grimaces and hatred in your blood every week. nikkas pay $200 to complain about Cesaros push. fukk Cesaro. fukk Pushes. I'm gonna eat my hot wings and just have fun.

I'm not saying we can't criticize wrasslin', but dudes go overboard. It's not that fukking deep. We're all entitled to our opinion tho absolutely.

I don't even care enough to write a fully thought out rebuttla. My main point is, ITS JUST A TV SHOW.
Word, I hear you and I agree with your main point. Despite not following the product 11 months out of the year, I went to Mania 31 last year since it was like an hour away and had fun at the show. My only gripe was with the GoT comparison and the way you worded it.
 

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I get tired of former employees telling us we don't understand the business.

What business do we need to know the majority of people do not like reigns and forcing him in the spotlight to win every time is not going to work sooner or later? What business do we need to know to understand we don't want usos vs dudelyz at mania? What business we need to know we get tired of seeing the same match over n over n over again on raw?
 

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How much money would they lose if they had an offseason?

Even if it was like 6 weeks or two months?

They could still spam other shyt on the Network and then actually be able to start a 'new season' fresh with different storylines/angles
 

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I don't know why people clamor for 2 hour Raws to come back as if the product wasn't trash before they went to 3
 
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