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Lol but nah he beat the 15 Hawks tooBRON BEAT TWO 60 WIN TEAMS
IN THE SAME...
I MEAN IN HIS CAREER.
MVP ROSE 1 on 5
AND THE 2016 CHOKERS
Jordan Eliminated Two 60 Win Teams In The Same Playoffs On 3 Different Occasions.
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Ewing, Barkley, KJ, Penny, Kemp, Payton, Malone, Stockton, Tim Hardaway, Zo...Jordan robbed a lot of legends who were in their primes of championship rings
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A team 6 games under .500 made the playoffs in 97.
The fukking 6th seed wasn't even .500.
Pacers made the playoffs in 2011 with a 37-45 record
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Delaney 2020,2024,2028...
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#OVOXO
WHAT THOSE EAST STANDINGS LOOKING LIKE IN 97?
AND THE NETS WERE 6 GAMES UNDER IN THE PLAYOFFS IN 2015.
The East was trash in 2015, I'll give you that.
The league was that wack then.... those teams were barely 60 wins too......magic, bird, Kareem, Isaiah were all gone or waaaay past prime at this point
at the thought of a team winning "barely" 60 games as some point of negative commentary.Only on this site man lol
All you're showing is that the argument that Lebron is dominating a weak league is false. If this league is weak, then so was Jordans.
WHEN DID I SAY BRON WAS DOMINATING THE LEAGUE?HES SUB .500 IN THE FINALS...
STEPH BECAME THE 1ST UNANIMOUS MVPIN NBA HISTORY UNDER BRONS WATCH.
BRON HAS DOMINATED A WEAK EAST.
WHATS THOSE 97 EAST STANDINGS LOOKING LIKE THOUGH?
If the 90's were easier what the fukk do you call this NBA when a team wins 73 games in a season then LOSES in the finals?
GOT EEEEEEEEEEM....PLUS THE SPURS WON 67
AND LOST IN THE 2ND ROUND IN THE VERY SAME SEASON.
Only on this site man lol
I mean break it down Breh....the highest sixty game win teams were all wc teams in the new found absence of the dominant lakers.... and the ec teams only flourished in the new found absence of the dominant Celtics and Pistons ...I don't care what the numbers are, I saw those teams and the disparity between them and the Bulls (Knicks aside) was crazy. The magic pulled that shyt the year before and got SWEPT
by the rockets. The 90's era was a bounce back era from the 80's that the whole league felt with the Bulls (mj individually) being the lone alpha standing. It was also the era of the expansion teams, until recently
. To just put up team records doesn't mean shyt if u don't analyze the era. I rock wit mj, GOAT (to an extent) to me, but I won't blow smoke like his era compares to certain others. In the 80's u had early 76ers, lakers, Celtics, Knicks, pistons, Dallas Mavericks rockets blazers.... the Bucks won 50 plus games seven seasons in the 80's and reached the ecf 4 times. The parity in the 80's was undeniable....and then all those guys got old and retired, leaving a super weak 90s era for the nba to rebuild(hint hint expansion). It is what it is breh..... But today's nba is much closer to that of the 80's, much more challenging than the 90's and early 00's
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There were SIX expansion teams added in six years. That league was watered-down as hell.
They've gone like 15 years now without adding an expansion team, and only 1 in the last 20. It's not even close to comparable.
Yup.
There is literally no logic there.
How do historically great teams getting beat by other deep, great teams somehow make it a "weaker" league than if those high-win teams had won?
The Warrriors had Curry-Klay-Draymond and an incredible bench, and should have had to go through at least 3 out of 4 of the CP3-Griffin-DeAndre-Crawford Clippers, the Kawhi-Aldridge-TP-Popovich Spurs, the Durant-Westbrook Thunder, and the Lebron-Irving Cavs.
No Jordan team ever had that many stacked teams in its way. He played in an era where Hakeem and a poo-poo platter could win a title the moment the Bulls weren't around.
Even the bad teams in the league are relatively stacked now. Jimmy Butler, Derrick Rose, and Pau Gasol (with Miritic/Gibson and other solid contributors) finish with a winning season and still can't even make the playoffs. John Wall and Bradley Beal, also with other solid guys, can't make the playoffs either. Antetokounmpo-Jabari-Middleton-Monroe are SIXTEEN GAMES below .500. Of course, they're still a game ahead of Carmelo and Porzingis.
Then, craziest of all, you can have a team with Wiggins-Towns-LaVine-Rubio-Dieng, give them some veteran help in Garnett, Tayshun, and Miller, and still watch them fall TWENTY-FOUR games below .500 at 29-53. Only four teams worse than them in the entire league.
In 1997, the 30-win Warriors (led by Latrell Sprewell and Joe Smith) had four teams worse than them (24, 21, 20, 14) in the Western Conference alone. The 30-win Raptors (led by 2nd-year Stoudamire and Walt Williams) had three teams worse than them (26, 22, 15) in the Eastern Conference. That's NINE teams with 30 or fewer wins, all of which would be killed by today's Timberwolves.
They've gone like 15 years now without adding an expansion team, and only 1 in the last 20. It's not even close to comparable.
In 1998 6 teams won 20 games or less
But but golden era
7 teams under 24 wins in 1997
Easy to win 60 games when the league was complete garbage.
Lmao looking at these standings the league was such a fukking joke back then.
A team 6 games under .500 made the playoffs in 97.
The fukking 6th seed wasn't even .500.
Yup.
If the 90's were easier what the fukk do you call this NBA when a team wins 73 games in a season then LOSES in the finals?
There is literally no logic there.
How do historically great teams getting beat by other deep, great teams somehow make it a "weaker" league than if those high-win teams had won?
The Warrriors had Curry-Klay-Draymond and an incredible bench, and should have had to go through at least 3 out of 4 of the CP3-Griffin-DeAndre-Crawford Clippers, the Kawhi-Aldridge-TP-Popovich Spurs, the Durant-Westbrook Thunder, and the Lebron-Irving Cavs.
No Jordan team ever had that many stacked teams in its way. He played in an era where Hakeem and a poo-poo platter could win a title the moment the Bulls weren't around.
Even the bad teams in the league are relatively stacked now. Jimmy Butler, Derrick Rose, and Pau Gasol (with Miritic/Gibson and other solid contributors) finish with a winning season and still can't even make the playoffs. John Wall and Bradley Beal, also with other solid guys, can't make the playoffs either. Antetokounmpo-Jabari-Middleton-Monroe are SIXTEEN GAMES below .500. Of course, they're still a game ahead of Carmelo and Porzingis.
Then, craziest of all, you can have a team with Wiggins-Towns-LaVine-Rubio-Dieng, give them some veteran help in Garnett, Tayshun, and Miller, and still watch them fall TWENTY-FOUR games below .500 at 29-53. Only four teams worse than them in the entire league.
In 1997, the 30-win Warriors (led by Latrell Sprewell and Joe Smith) had four teams worse than them (24, 21, 20, 14) in the Western Conference alone. The 30-win Raptors (led by 2nd-year Stoudamire and Walt Williams) had three teams worse than them (26, 22, 15) in the Eastern Conference. That's NINE teams with 30 or fewer wins, all of which would be killed by today's Timberwolves.
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THERE WERE LIKE 4-6 SUB .500 TEAMS MAKING THE PLAYOFFSEVERY YEAR IN THE 80S.
There were SIX expansion teams added in six years. That league was watered-down as hell.
They've gone like 15 years now without adding an expansion team, and only 1 in the last 20. It's not even close to comparable.
Yup.
There is literally no logic there.
How do historically great teams getting beat by other deep, great teams somehow make it a "weaker" league than if those high-win teams had won?
The Warrriors had Curry-Klay-Draymond and an incredible bench, and should have had to go through at least 3 out of 4 of the CP3-Griffin-DeAndre-Crawford Clippers, the Kawhi-Aldridge-TP-Popovich Spurs, the Durant-Westbrook Thunder, and the Lebron-Irving Cavs.
No Jordan team ever had that many stacked teams in its way. He played in an era where Hakeem and a poo-poo platter could win a title the moment the Bulls weren't around.
Even the bad teams in the league are relatively stacked now. Jimmy Butler, Derrick Rose, and Pau Gasol (with Miritic/Gibson and other solid contributors) finish with a winning season and still can't even make the playoffs. John Wall and Bradley Beal, also with other solid guys, can't make the playoffs either. Antetokounmpo-Jabari-Middleton-Monroe are SIXTEEN GAMES below .500. Of course, they're still a game ahead of Carmelo and Porzingis.
Then, craziest of all, you can have a team with Wiggins-Towns-LaVine-Rubio-Dieng, give them some veteran help in Garnett, Tayshun, and Miller, and still watch them fall TWENTY-FOUR games below .500 at 29-53. Only four teams worse than them in the entire league.
In 1997, the 30-win Warriors (led by Latrell Sprewell and Joe Smith) had four teams worse than them (24, 21, 20, 14) in the Western Conference alone. The 30-win Raptors (led by 2nd-year Stoudamire and Walt Williams) had three teams worse than them (26, 22, 15) in the Eastern Conference. That's NINE teams with 30 or fewer wins, all of which would be killed by today's Timberwolves.
AINT NOBODY READING ALL THAT shyt STANLEY.
Twitter generation. When 260 words is now a couple hundred too many.
And saying that Lebron beat Rose "1 on 5" is some of the stupidest shyt I've ever heard. Who the hell were the "5" for Lebron - Bibby and Joel Anthony? And the Bulls had one of the deepest rosters in the league that year - you just shat on Deng-Noah-Boozer-Gibson-Korver and probably the deepest set of defensive talent (Deng-Noah-Gibson plus Brewer-Bogans-Thomas-Asik) in decades.
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Twitter generation. When 260 words is now a couple hundred too many.
And saying that Lebron beat Rose "1 on 5" is some of the stupidest shyt I've ever heard. Who the hell were the "5" for Lebron - Bibby and Joel Anthony? And the Bulls had one of the deepest rosters in the league that year - you just shat on Deng-Noah-Boozer-Gibson-Korver and probably the deepest set of defensive talent (Deng-Noah-Gibson plus Brewer-Bogans-Thomas-Asik) in decades.
NOBODY OUTSIDE of rose on the 2011 could even create offense for themselves. They were good role players, but rose needed another nikka who could alleviate defensive pressure off of him, and we wound up with bogawd bricking 3s, and deng not doing anything. Hence why people say it was 1 on 5. Rose was literally tripled team in the paint and he kicks it out to the shooters and BRICK BRICK BRICK and Brick