Joy ann reid responds to her speaking on slavery and not being ados

[truth2you]

The funny thing about ADOS is how it started by black media elites who gathered their bonafides together, took pieces of historical info and put it on a website. Not by an organic offline movement, housed on trial and error, local to national then later moving online. Since when have black movements of any real worth started like ADOS? We’ve yet to see social media movements harness any real structure in creating policies that benefit a collective.

For all of you niqqas who claim you know the history of your people, you sure arent displaying it in your inability to see why this shyt aint nothing more than the latest hashtag wave.

I didn't read this whole thread, but you have no idea what you're talking about

I don't understand how can people be so opinionated on a subject, yet have no proper information it

That is a sign of weakness. For some reason ADOS hurts your feelings, so you are just mad to be mad.

1-What Black elite media helped create ADOS? If anything they hate the movement, where have you been?lol

2-How it isn't organic when it was regular people who went at Joy Reid for her bots comment? Have a conference in October? Have Killa mike just now gettting down with it? Sounds organic to me!

3-Its not 1965, social media is the new radio, and magazines, except we don't need big backing like they did back then. Now, its the people supporting other people, which makes it a movement of the people.

4-If it weren't for ADOS movement, you wouldn't even be talking about reparations EXCEPT on some low following youtube channel, stop bullshytting!

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

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So you're one third?

Let YAH be an arbiter and judge between me and you and put your flesh to the test.

Your failure to discern is amusing for a resurrected son of Jacob.

Says the clown thats telling me what i need yo be worried about. Seems like you got a problem with me educating and teaching that my people should come together thats scattered all over the world. Telling me i should be worried about myself. I guess the prophets, disciples, and Christ was not concerned about their kinsmens and their Hebrew/Israelite brothers and sisters. They wrote letters to theirselves and was looking in the mirror when they was out teaching “thus said the Lord”. You got tight when i brought up a little known fact about black history. If that aint the spirit of a 2/3rd member

 

[truth2you]

That’s where people are getting confused.
You can support the ADOS movement without insulting black immigrants.

I don’t know if it’s suppose to be comical or what but it’s similar to how black twitter turns serious issues into laughing matters, shyt talking and bickering

It takes away from the more important political aspect.

People like him are just making excuses to not go along with it. Since when has any movement not have certain people who are apart of them not get disrespectful?

Any wise man doesn't look at that IF the main speakers don't talk like that. Its detractors who focus on the extremes, and they do that to ignore the main arguments being made, its a deflection strategy!

 

[HarlemHottie]

The funny thing about ADOS is how it started by black media elites who gathered their bonafides together, took pieces of historical info and put it on a website. Not by an organic offline movement, housed on trial and error, local to national then later moving online. Since when have black movements of any real worth started like ADOS? We’ve yet to see social media movements harness any real structure in creating policies that benefit a collective.

Who, specifically?

 

[truth2you]

Dont see a N infront of American. Alot of black from America dont even know their family migrated from the isles like Haiti. They shytting on their own people ignorantly.
New Orleans and Haiti are linked by culture, food and history

Reading this makes me feel weird. It's true there are similarities, but the article makes it seem like the people New Orleans got most of their culture from Haiti leaving out important facts. It was really African mixed with French/Spanish culture that united Haiti & New Orleans, as well as biracials/mixed ethnicity(creoles), but the article is making it seem like most of the culture, and black people, are some way connected to Haiti. Only around 10,000-40,000 Haitians got there in 1809, and that wasn't just blacks.

Also, a lot of those "Haitian" customs are really African, mixed with French/Spanish. So what is it, Haitian culture or African culture? It used to be African, Spanish and French, but now its Haitian which is the same thing? see the games being played on ADOS.

From what I'm seeing in my years of living, it seems a lot of people take a little truth then turn it around to make a new story. In essence, it seems whoever wrote that article is taking away from the black people who didn't have people who came from Haiti, AND they leave out that was 1809, you mean to tell me you're people been here for over 210 years, and you still claim Haiti as your land? That makes no sense to me considering the story of black people after slavery happened, and the transition America went through. I know why some do it, they want to seem special, since black americans have a low place in society. others do it because its competition to them, and they want to be recognized, so they love to take credit for shyt. I seen this growing up in NYC, and this hip hop shyt growing to what it has become. I remember when older west indians shytted on rap, but as soon as it got big all of a sudden they created it because Kool Herc is Jamaican. This lie is being told all over the place, but its changing now because of the internet, and we can hear what the people who created hip hop say themselves.

How did we miss this?
June was officially National Caribbean-American Heritage Month in America by Congressional Decree!
June is Caribbean-American Heritage Month! | NRCS Caribbean Area

I'm happy it's right on top of the Juneteenth Celebration for ADOS .

Oh more information from back in 2010?!

Caribbean-Americans Seek Their Own Ethnicity Box On Census Form

Looks like this started the division to me though



This took two minutes to expose the hypocrisy.

I get them wanting to be seen as the culture they represent, but why do that knowing its more power in numbers? I'm seeing too many of us go against our own benefits! Black people all over the world got to fix how we think! It's like we forgot how to be strategic, and just want to look good for the world, so we fight over crumbs!

 

[Phitz]

Yea, and why dont Antonio or Yvette enter a debate with a Pan-African to flesh out their ideas? They live in an echo chamber thats bordering on cult-like thinking. Their followers keep posting the same 5-8 slogans without thinking.

lol ADOS negged me for saying Well said

 

[ATownD19]

lol ADOS negged me for saying Well said

They're easily triggered. Thats what happens when your beliefs are weak.

 

[Hoodoo Child]

I hear you but let’s be real, lines we’re already drawn. Look at all the people that have flags of Caribbean and African nations in their social media profiles. Or have culturally specific businesses such as clubs, restaurants or even places of worship. And cake up in American hoods and send their money back to their motherland.

And that’s cool. Represent your heritage and lineage. Make providing for your bloodline a priority.

It only started becoming an issue when nikkas started talking about getting checks cut and holding political candidates accountable.

Then all the hidden resentment started bubbling to the surface. Dudes with post traumatic stress about being called “African Booty Scratcher” back in the summer of ‘92, came out trying to play loan officer for America’s purse strings.

It’s unfortunate.

Like I always say, mane. "It was all good, until the Rabbit got himself a gun". If you look at the full course of American history, it highlights the fact that AA's have always been the beasts of burden. With every seed we planted, they stole the crops. With every song we sung, they stole the publishing. With every march we started, they showed up afterwards singing, "we shall overcome". You see were I'm going with this? It's people out here who benefit off of OUR success. (ala The Civil Rights Act of 1964, The Voting Rights Act of 65 and The Immigration & Nationality Act of 1965). Our relationship with foreigners have always been commensalistic. Their success in this country is determined by us. That's why they get mad when we start talking about agendas that would benefit AA's exclusively. "YOu sOuND LIkE a TrUMp SuPpoRteR" is a deflection tactic.

Spoiler: One more thing

I don't hate immigrants, but I'm aware of the hypocrisy.

 

[ultraflexed]

Black Agenda – #ADOS



#ADOS keep your eye on the ball

 

[ultraflexed]

Like I always say, mane. "It was all good, until the Rabbit got himself a gun". If you look at the full course of American history, it highlights the fact that AA's has always been the beasts of burden. With every seed we planted, they stole the crops. With every song we sung, they stole the publishing. With every march we started, they showed up afterwards singing, "we shall overcome". You see were I'm going with this? It's people out here who benefit off of OUR success. (ala The Civil Rights Act of 1964, The Voting Rights Act of 65 and The Immigration & Nationality Act of 1965). Our relationship with foreigners have always been commensalistic. Their success in this country is determined by us. That's why they get mad when we start talking about agendas that would benefit AA's exclusively. "YOu sAId LIkE a TrUMp SuPpoRteR" is a deflection tactic.

Spoiler: One more thing

I don't hate immigrants, but I'm aware of the hypocrisy.

Well said

Black Agenda – #ADOS



#ADOS keep your eye on the ball

/thread

 

[KingJudah2]

Who, specifically?

That nikka is an idiot. No elites created it

 

[Gravity]

Be an adult and do your own research and stop asking nikkas on a hip hop message board for political guidance.

I didn't ask your stupid ass for political guidance. I asked about the political strategy that ados is supposedly employing to actually make a real effort at obtaining reparations through the legal/political process. You proved my point. There is no real strategy. You're just a bunch of idiots trolling.

You thought wrong, per usual.

We have a outlined black-agenda right here moron.

Black Agenda – #ADOS



Now you dont have to think, it's right there.

What's the strategy for getting those "demands" met? That's the question. Just making a pathetic website that lists a bunch of unrealistic fantasy demands when you have no leverage to force either of the political parties to meet them, isn't doing shyt.

So far the only strategy I've seen any of you ados clowns lay out for getting those demands is to not vote.

Take this goal/objective/demand from the site that you just posted for instance:

• The Supreme Court decided wrongly when it gutted the Voting Rights Act. As the Atlanta Journal Constitution article “It’s Time to Solve the Mystery of the 100,000 Mystery Votes” indicates, the protections outlined in the Voting Rights Act are essential to protecting the rights of ADOS in America. Reinstituting the protections of The Voting Rights Act is a key part of our agenda.

Here is an acknowledgement that the Supreme Court decision to gut the voting rights act has hurt ados blacks. Well sitting out the next cycle of elections in 2020 because the dems aren't going to promise reparations or a black only sub-agenda, will only ensure that trump gets at least 1 more pick on the Supreme Court which he will undoubtedly use to appoint a justice who will swing the court even further to the alt right. That will in turn guarantee that more bad decisions that will be detrimental to ados will be handed down by the court. How do you ados clowns reconcile that? How do you push a "no tangibles no vote" strategy while also needing to protect the little political power/leverage that we do have?

Again, according to an agenda that you just claimed, protecting and reinstituting black peoples voting rights is a major key. How the fukk do you accomplish that by not voting against the 1 party that is running on a platform that will take away black voting rights and diminish black political power?

You people are stupid as fukk and it's a sad disheartening sight to behold.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

They're easily triggered. Thats what happens when your beliefs are weak.

Lol

 

[bzb]

It only started becoming an issue when nikkas started talking about getting checks cut and holding political candidates accountable.

i'm not seeing that it has much to do with financial reparations. it seems a lot of immigrants don't understand the strategy of throwing the baby out with the bathwater (not voting) if presidential candidates don't commit adding reparations in the form of a check to their platform.

most people know that regardless of what a presidential candidate says it will take the full congress to pass any legislation leading to any form of reparations. dems in the house could be persuaded to pass legislation by the reparations movement, but rethugs in the senate already said they won't budge. why are people acting like the president is the most important part of the reparations process? and why isn't there more of a focus on congress, specifically the senate?

more practical folks understand the president is important for other actions that impact policy, like scotus picks, fed judges, how the doj creates law enforcement policy, etc.. this practical thinking makes the strategy of "no votes" a problem because you get nothing in return and you set longer term progress back because now congress is even more in the grasp of political conservatives who have already said they want no part of the reparations discussion.

i don't think black immigrants expect part of the "reparations bag" coming to black americans. i don't think they're jealous. i do think immigrants and a lot of blacks americans are worried about the strategy because it's obvious where this administration is going. allowing them to gain even more power or put even more of their cronies in position of power is a lose lose situation for everyone.

 

[teacher]

Backlash from #ADOS from non-black is but AA’s were/are sh!tting on immigrant blacks could be Karma