Julius Erving (Dr.J) Lists his top 10 players of All Time

[Art Barr]

Vince could be a sg, ice man, the pearl , pistol Pete, the logo, joe dumars

It’s a decent position and that’s not including modern players

Granted it’s hard to say who plays what cause dudes is interchangeable, like what was dominque, could he not also be considered a shooting guard

Niguel was a three.

Stop trying to rewrite history to fit some errant narrative.
Nique and mitch Richmond were the next two best players in the league after Mike.
It is cap to lie and say other wise.

Just like people mad dr j did had a caveat for not listing LeBron. Why would Dr j list LeBron when he already saw and idolized Elgin Baylor. The same Elgin baylor who lost just like LeBron. Where Dr j took over the best in the game title from.
The lack of knowledge and respect for Dr j is a joke too. As after mj. There is Dr j and If you wanna get funky. After that is nique for our era. Anyone else telling you otherwise is offbrand as fukk.
Real talk. I do not have Bron anywhere near nique or Dr j all time as well. Bron is tied with Elgin Baylor for all those losses in the finals. LeBron is just a rehash of the eastern seaboard rise and destruction of draw of Elgin Baylor and it plays out exactly narrative.
the same way.
if Bron finishes in LA too.


Art Barr

 

[Gritsngravy]

Niguel was a three.

Stop trying to rewrite history to fit some errant narrative.
Nique and mitch Richmond were the next two best players in the league after Mike.
It is cap to lie and say other wise.

Just like people mad dr j did had a caveat for not listing LeBron. Why would Dr j list LeBron when he already saw and idolized Elgin Baylor. The same Elgin baylor who lost just like LeBron. Where Dr j took over the best in the game title from.
The lack of knowledge and respect for Dr j is a joke too. As after mj. There is Dr j and If you wanna get funky. After that is nique for our era. Anyone else telling you otherwise is offbrand as fukk.
Real talk. I do not have Bron anywhere near nique or Dr j all time as well. Bron is tied with Elgin Baylor for all those losses in the finals. LeBron is just a rehash of the eastern seaboard rise and destruction of draw of Elgin Baylor and it plays out exactly narrative.
the same way.
if Bron finishes in LA too.


Art Barr

I’m trying to rewrite history?

 

[MJ Truth]

Karl Malone is interesting, which makes me want to deep dive on a topic I don’t think I ever heard discussed

Is the 4 the weakest position in terms of talent in nba history?
Like the top five power forwards may be weaker than the top five of each other position

Malone/KG/Barkley/Giannis/Duncan
Magic/Isiah/Steph/J Kidd/Oscar
MJ/Kobe/Iverson/West/Wade
Shaq/Russell/Kareem/Wilt/Hakeem
Bron/Dr J/Bird/KD/Pip

They all seem to be on equal footing to me. Center is clearly always gonna be the best because of how the game was originally played.

 

[Art Barr]

I’m trying to rewrite history?

Yeah.

You tried to say nique was not a natural three. Plus in so many clandestine coded verbiage and words. Nique was inferior to bird. Like you were possessed by some rehash.
of white racist eastern seaboard news articles.
written in the Boston gazette. Amidst a heat stroke inside the non air conditioned boston garden in the summer playoffs of the late eighties.


Art Barr

 

[Gritsngravy]

Yeah.

You tried to say nique was not a natural three. Plus in so many clandestine coded verbiage and words. Nique was inferior to bird. Like you were possessed by some rehash.
of white racist eastern seaboard news articles.
written in the Boston gazette. Amidst a heat stroke inside the non air conditioned boston garden in the summer playoffs of the late eighties.


Art Barr

I wasn’t sure what Wilkins really played, was he guarding being guarded by threes or twos

But that whole Boston shyt you just wrote is some shyt yo imagination came up with, I’m not trying to downplay Wilkins

 

[Gritsngravy]

Malone/KG/Barkley/Giannis/Duncan
Magic/Isiah/Steph/J Kidd/Oscar
MJ/Kobe/Iverson/West/Wade
Shaq/Russell/Kareem/Wilt/Hakeem
Bron/Dr J/Bird/KD/Pip

They all seem to be on equal footing to me. Center is clearly always gonna be the best because of how the game was originally played.

Seems like other positions got more top end talent, pf and pg kinda lags behind

 

[Art Barr]

I wasn’t sure what Wilkins really played, was he guarding being guarded by threes or twos

But that whole Boston shyt you just wrote is some shyt yo imagination came up with, I’m not trying to downplay Wilkins

You not old enough.

To know

Yet that is what you just did.

You guys grew up in a world.
that mother's group sheltered y'all from.
Bball is the most racist sport.
You should go back and watch the celtic era. To see racism on court for yourself. Then see rhe actual breakdown in real time.
Of laimbeer prey on race against bird. To use his white race against his own and confuse the holy fukk out of the whole cac time ass situation.
You guys have disconnect to a lot. Especially as far as black nationalism and what we are facing as black folks. Y'all had a great as time as youths because white America had rhe prison industrial economy marketing going full tilt. That preying on us for a capital based return. You guys think was a norm. When prison industrial economy based marketing using us to harm ours selves was getting steam.
when most of you were just starting to become cognitive. So you guys never experienced this and think it is sweet. Do not fall for this tricknology.


Art Barr

That for you to bring up nique.
how you did.
Shows a lot of disconnect in black nationalism as well.
even the dr j lack of notoriety makes me question y'all blackness.

Like that is the archetype of how you are cool. There is no other guy. If Dr j and nique are missing from your DNA as a black man in Influence. Yousa c00n and not hood simple as that.

Hopefully for the rest of you. You get the lesson somebody should have given you.


anybody dissing dr j.
is a goofie. Ain't no way..they were ever cool to let bullshyt about dr j or nique.
fall out of their lips and be a black man.




Art Barr

 

[Gritsngravy]

You not old enough.

To know

Yet that is what you just did.

You guys grew up in a world.
that mother's group sheltered y'all from.
Bball is the most racist sport.
You should go back and watch the celtic era. To see racism on court for yourself. Then see rhe actual breakdown in real time.
Of laimbeer prey on race against bird. To use his white race against his own and confuse the holy fukk out of the whole cac time ass situation.
You guys have disconnect to a lot. Especially as far as black nationalism and what we are facing as black folks. Y'all had a great as time as youths because white America had rhe prison industrial economy marketing going full tilt. That preying on us for a capital based return. You guys think was a norm. When prison industrial economy based marketing using us to harm ours selves was getting steam.
when most of you were just starting to become cognitive. So you guys never experienced this and think it is sweet. Do not fall for this tricknology.


Art Barr

That for you to bring up nique.
how you did.
Shows a lot of disconnect in black nationalism as well.
even the dr j lack of notoriety makes me question y'all blackness.

Like that is the archetype of how you are cool. There is no other guy. If Dr j and nique are missing from your DNA as a black man in Influence. Yousa c00n and not hood simple as that.

Hopefully for the rest of you. You get the lesson somebody should have given you.


anybody dissing dr j.
is a goofie. Ain't no way..they were ever cool to let bullshyt about dr j or nique.
fall out of their lips and be a black man.




Art Barr

This whole ramble has nothing to do with the conversation

my blackness is to not be questioned

And wasn’t Wilkins compared to mj more so than bird?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Karl Malone is interesting, which makes me want to deep dive on a topic I don’t think I ever heard discussed

Is the 4 the weakest position in terms of talent in nba history?
Like the top five power forwards may be weaker than the top five of each other position

When i was growing up, the ideal PF was a defence/rebounding role player. If you were over 6'10" with talent you played center and if you were under 6'9" with talent you played SF. Duncan/Garnett really launched a new era of talented bigs playing

interesting. Mine would be

Magic
Curry
Isiah
Oscar
Nash [maybe Russ, Chris Paul, Kidd, Dennis Johnson]

Jordan
Kobe
Wade
West
Iverson

Lebron
Bird
Dr J
KD
Pippen

Kareem
Shaq
Wilt
Hakeem
Moses

Tim Duncan
Barkley
KG
Dirk
Malone [Rodman, McHale, Pau maybe]

I'd say PG is the lowest in terms of depth. You fall off quick after 4 to guys who never won titles, or guys who were never the best on their team...

Using titles as criteria is silly because those only matter for the upper upper tier and are too impacted by era. Besides, your PG list has 3 players who won titles as the man, which is the same as your SG, SF, and PF lists.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This whole ramble has nothing to do with the conversation

my blackness is to not be questioned

Breh is off his rocker frfr.

"Of laimbeer prey on race against bird. To use his white race against his own and confuse the holy fukk out of the whole cac time ass situation. You guys have disconnect to a lot. Especially as far as black nationalism and what we are facing as black folks. Y'all had a great as time as youths because white America had rhe prison industrial economy marketing going full tilt. That preying on us for a capital based return. You guys think was a norm. When prison industrial economy based marketing using us to harm ours selves was getting steam. when most of you were just starting to become cognitive. So you guys never experienced this and think it is sweet. Do not fall for this tricknology."


That's all one paragraph as if there's some cohesive central idea there.

 

[TAYLONDO SAMSWORTHY]

No Bird is really the only glaring admission. He said he's not counting guys still playing, so that would eliminate Lebron.

I really don't see the problem with his list.

Karl Malone over Kobe, Shaq, Hakeem and Duncan is NASTY WORK

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nique and mitch Richmond were the next two best players in the league after Mike.
It is cap to lie and say other wise.

There is literally just 1 season in NBA history where MJ, Nique, and Richmond even made all-star at the same time, and that was the year Sir Charles won MVP and Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Malone, and Drexler were all in their primes.

 

[Gritsngravy]

When i was growing up, the ideal PF was a defence/rebounding role player. If you were over 6'10" with talent you played center and if you were under 6'9" with talent you played SF. Duncan/Garnett really launched a new era of talented bigs playing





Using titles as criteria is silly because those only matter for the upper upper tier and are too impacted by era. Besides, your PG list has 3 players who won titles as the man, which is the same as your SG, SF, and PF lists.

In a way pf are underrated, people only appreciate scoring

But somebody should make a spin thread of if pf is the best defensive position compared to other positions

 

[Art Barr]

There is literally just 1 season in NBA history where MJ, Nique, and Richmond even made all-star at the same time, and that was the year Sir Charles won MVP and Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Malone, and Drexler were all in their primes.

What state what city what side..
You from.
Goofie.

You are the most jiggy sellout style nikka with rakim ever.
Nobody said shyt about no Allstars team selections nikka. We talembout who the illest were of that era.

It was those three and then the rest after Dr j retired.

You were not even cognitive then nikka. I swear you be speaking on shyt.
you do not know shyt about. Then go Google it and think you the rakim of what your Googles nikka. Stop.


You sound goofie in what your reply isaby any hooper standards.

Nique and Richmond were better easy than who you named in:

Charles : no nikka from the hood in that era is taking charles over nique or Richmond goofie. Try again.


Robinson: jaut stertrd olaying in college and just so happened to take it well. He was no nique tho nikka. Fail. Try again.

Malone: stop.
nique was way colder than this pedo.

drexler : was drexler eas never on nique level.

plus you can stop with the revisionist adter mike retired cap in hakeem.
Hakeem already lost with the ultimate help and big in Sampson.
plusgot swept with the best help ever to bird'n eem. Nique was pushing the Celt to seven with no help. Plus stealing home court advantage.
Richmond was better than dream too.

Dream was only good when he had help in college in Drexler and in the pros. Of which he had to win when Mike left. After Mike wrote the gentleman sweep playbook on how to beat their opposition in the finals. in early rounds of the playoffs in the knicks. Plus shaq warly on had no skill pedigree as a big to stop the original old core bigs in:

Robinson
Ewing
Dream
Etc.

So Shaq of course got swept like dream got swept versus the celts. Being grossly outsmarted and outsmarted as well.


So stop the cap.
Dream best the beginning of the low bball in era when jordan retired.
Dream was a contributing role player with the ultimate big an still got swept in the high bball in era. when nique was a superstar off top when drafted. All this Dream shyt started when Mike was gone. So stop the cap. Even when Dream was drafted higher position than noque still was better. Nique was better in college as a lone wolf outcast from north carolina at Georgia. Whereas Dream needed to ramp to domestic play. Plus help to win his titles in college. Nique was a one man highlight film. Who needed no ramp up.

Rich was as close to Jordan at sg before kobe.

Plus if not for injuries. Richmond would be regarded in the higher echelon like tmac was at rhe position.
You nikkaz is all commercial nba coverage of wack NBc.

Y'all do not come from the higher quality CBS days.
Or satellite.


Miss me with y'all cap.

You nikkaz sheltered.

Art Barr

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Hakeem already lost with the ultimate help and big in Sampson.
plusgot swept with the best help ever to bird'n eem. Nique was pushing the Celt to seven with no help.

Liar, Dream didn't get swept, he took that GOAT '86 Celtics team to 6. That was 2nd-year Hakeem and he won as many playoff series that postseason alone as Dominique won in his entire career.

Prime 26yo Dominique didn't take that '86 Celtics squad to 7, he lost in 5 games with the Game 5 loss by 33 points.

'Nique was 3-10 in playoff series for his career and never made it past the 2nd round. Didn't just lose to juggernauts like the Celtics, he was getting knocked out of the 1st round by the Moncrief Bucks, the Chuck Person Pacers, the Ricky Pierce Bucks, etc.

Imagine trying to rip on 2nd-year Hakeem for "only" making it to 6 in the Finals while you pump up career 1st-round losers like 'Nique and Richmond.

Richmond was better than dream too.

Dream was only good when he had help in college in Drexler and in the pros.

Richmond played three years with Mullin and Hardaway (AND Sampson) and never got past Game 5 of the second round.

Then went to Sacramento for 7 years and averaged like 30 wins/season, only made the playoffs ONCE.

Funny thing is that Sacramento was 27-55 in his last year there, then had a winning record in his first year gone.

So then Richmond went to the Bullets with Juwan Howard, Rod Strickland, Otis Thorpe (Hakeem's #2 in a title), and Big Ben....and averaged 21 wins/season the next three years.


"But but but Hakeem lost to the Celtics in the Finals and didn't win a ring until Year 9!"

Dream best the beginning of the low bball in era when jordan retired.
Dream was a contributing role player with the ultimate big an still got swept in the high bball in era.

Richmond was two years younger than Hakeem, where the fukk was he?