Just how good is Trevon Diggs?

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AJ Green cooked him something bad yesterday. The numbers won’t show it but there were three balls where he and Murray just missed each other via an overthrow or Green not making the effort. Green had like 2 yards of separation on Diggs each of those throws.

One of them, Green illegally extended his arms to get seperation but generally speaking Green got the better of him yesterday.

That's not good since Green is old, on the decline and hasn't been elite for the past five seasons.

If Green could do that, I think D Hop would ve cooked him on those double moves yesterday if he was healthy.
 

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If teams feared him he wouldn't have anywhere near 11 interceptions on a season. If you are a great CB, teams won't challenge you that often. I think the kid is good but like most have said gets way to greedy, which teams will exploit. And as much as people like to lay blame on his safety help for all the yards he has given up, some of his interceptions were just poor throws by the QB as well. So it goes both ways.
 

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This 1000 yard number is hilariously wrong because I have seen multiple plays this year where the media is saying Diggs gave up a big play but it is actually the safety fault so I would legit need to see every single play that Diggs "gave up before I put any validity around this 1000 yard number"...



At 12:25 Diggs is playing a trail technique...it is what just about every corner plays when they move the safety to one side like this...the DC wants the corner 2 yards underneath the receiver and a safety 2 yards over the receiver and they want to make the QB throw it perfectly between them...throw that a little short it might be a pick...throw that a little long it might be a pick...Kazee is in perfect position to at least break this up and he does everything wrong...takes one of the worst angles you ever see...makes it a point to not make any contact with the receiver...at 12:26 you actually see Diggs slow down cause he is trying to give Kazee trash ass space to make the play...that ends up being a touchdown...

First thing Jim Nantz says is "they blow the coverage"...no Kazee blew the coverage...Digges did everything right...well except for thinking Kazee was going to do what he was supposed to do...so the narrative of this play all week was "Diggs gave up a long touchdown" and "Diggs got burnt"...

In this same game though you know what Diggs did right after No Leg Greg missed ANOTHER FIELD GOAL THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE COWBOUS THE LEAD...at 11:50...pick 6 house call....cowboys don't win without this play...

I say all this to say Diggs has been outstanding this year...he has given up some big plays...but he has made way more on defense than he has given up. If the worst thing you can say about a corner who has 11 picks is that he gives up to many yards and if you just watch the games you can tell that some of these should not even been attributed to him...

He is not without flaws...he needs to tone down jumping routes cause Kyler and AJ caught him slipping yesterday...it only wasn't a touchdown cause Kyler didn't throw a very good pass...but if the question is how good is Trevon Diggs...the answer is very fukking good...he is so fukking good that if we play a team that feels like they can throw at him a lot...I'm going to feel comfortable with us walking out of the stadium with a W...

Unless it is just straight up man to man coverage with no safety help...how do you calculate who gave up what on a catch? On that play against the patriots how exactly does a person come to the determination that Diggs is the one who gut burnt instead of Kazee running 3 yards out of the way of the receiver? From what I have seen of the cowboys this year...and I have seen a whole fukking lot of them...this trail technique is a thing they play A LOT...they typically play that on one side of the field damn near every play that is an obvious passing down...so do other teams I watch...
 

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This 1000 yard number is hilariously wrong because I have seen multiple plays this year where the media is saying Diggs gave up a big play but it is actually the safety fault so I would legit need to see every single play that Diggs "gave up before I put any validity around this 1000 yard number"...



At 12:25 Diggs is playing a trail technique...it is what just about every corner plays when they move the safety to one side like this...the DC wants the corner 2 yards underneath the receiver and a safety 2 yards over the receiver and they want to make the QB throw it perfectly between them...throw that a little short it might be a pick...throw that a little long it might be a pick...Kazee is in perfect position to at least break this up and he does everything wrong...takes one of the worst angles you ever see...makes it a point to not make any contact with the receiver...at 12:26 you actually see Diggs slow down cause he is trying to give Kazee trash ass space to make the play...that ends up being a touchdown...

First thing Jim Nantz says is "they blow the coverage"...no Kazee blew the coverage...Digges did everything right...well except for thinking Kazee was going to do what he was supposed to do...so the narrative of this play all week was "Diggs gave up a long touchdown" and "Diggs got burnt"...

In this same game though you know what Diggs did right after No Leg Greg missed ANOTHER FIELD GOAL THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE COWBOUS THE LEAD...at 11:50...pick 6 house call....cowboys don't win without this play...

I say all this to say Diggs has been outstanding this year...he has given up some big plays...but he has made way more on defense than he has given up. If the worst thing you can say about a corner who has 11 picks is that he gives up to many yards and if you just watch the games you can tell that some of these should not even been attributed to him...

He is not without flaws...he needs to tone down jumping routes cause Kyler and AJ caught him slipping yesterday...it only wasn't a touchdown cause Kyler didn't throw a very good pass...but if the question is how good is Trevon Diggs...the answer is very fukking good...he is so fukking good that if we play a team that feels like they can throw at him a lot...I'm going to feel comfortable with us walking out of the stadium with a W...

Unless it is just straight up man to man coverage with no safety help...how do you calculate who gave up what on a catch? On that play against the patriots how exactly does a person come to the determination that Diggs is the one who gut burnt instead of Kazee running 3 yards out of the way of the receiver? From what I have seen of the cowboys this year...and I have seen a whole fukking lot of them...this trail technique is a thing they play A LOT...they typically play that on one side of the field damn near every play that is an obvious passing down...so do other teams I watch...

Youre actually a good poster when you arent :cape: for the QB :ohhh:
 

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If teams feared him he wouldn't have anywhere near 11 interceptions on a season. If you are a great CB, teams won't challenge you that often. I think the kid is good but like most have said gets way to greedy, which teams will exploit. And as much as people like to lay blame on his safety help for all the yards he has given up, some of his interceptions were just poor throws by the QB as well. So it goes both ways.

Well the cowboys average around 30 points a game so you are not going to beat them if you go into the game just flat out not throwing to one side of the field or not throwing to a receiver cause Diggs is on him....

So it's not that people aren't scared of Diggs...it's that in order for you to beat dallas on an average day you going to need somewhere between 25 and 36 points...you MIGHT could get the 25 avoiding him if your running game is great and yout qb is completely virtually everything he throws...but it aint no fukking way you going to got 30 or more if you only throwing the ball to one side of the field or you just flat out don't throw the ball at the guy Diggs is covering...
 

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He better hope he never sees Ja Marr Chase again. Talking about a matchup nightmare :picard:

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Well the cowboys average around 30 points a game so you are not going to beat them if you go into the game just flat out not throwing to one side of the field or not throwing to a receiver cause Diggs is on him....

So it's not that people aren't scared of Diggs...it's that in order for you to beat dallas on an average day you going to need somewhere between 25 and 36 points...you MIGHT could get the 25 avoiding him if your running game is great and yout qb is completely virtually everything he throws...but it aint no fukking way you going to got 30 or more if you only throwing the ball to one side of the field or you just flat out don't throw the ball at the guy Diggs is covering...

We going to act like guys like Sherman, Prime, Revis, Champ, Woodson etc never existed. Those guys rarely got straight up challenged and their teams still lost games. You have the entire middle of the field, plus the other side to work with. Teams throw at Diggs despite having a below average CB on the other side of the field they can attack because they aren't afraid of him and can exploit his tendencies. He is basically boom or bust.
 

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We going to act like guys like Sherman, Prime, Revis, Champ, Woodson etc never existed. Those guys rarely got straight up challenged and their teams still lost games. You have the entire middle of the field, plus the other side to work with. Teams throw at Diggs despite having a below average CB on the other side of the field they can attack because they aren't afraid of him and can exploit his tendencies. He is basically boom or bust.
Diggs is still learning the position. Sherman was a WR convert as well but played a zone concept in Seattle, so there isn't a comparison. Mugs didn't say anything when he held Mike Evans to 1 catch for 10 yards, locked up McLaurin twice, and Devonta Smith, but read some numbers on twitter and want to come out of the woodworks.
 

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There's a reason that rookie is now being touted as the defensive wonder of the team.
 

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Diggs is still learning the position. Sherman was a WR convert as well but played a zone concept in Seattle, so there isn't a comparison. Mugs didn't say anything when he held Mike Evans to 1 catch for 10 yards, locked up McLaurin twice, and Devonta Smith, but read some numbers on twitter and want to come out of the woodworks.

Zone turns to man at some point. If you are a CB out there covering grass in a zone concept then you are doing it wrong. No real need to minimize Sherman, he was very good at what he did. I think Diggs will continue to get better but he has to learn to stop gambling so much.
 
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