Just Striaght AADOS Men Flashin Out On a Racist CAC to Protect BW Again

[Counter Racist Male]

I wish you non-ADOS motherfukkers would stop coming in here trying to cause dissent between BLACK people.

In our country, light-skinned people are still BLACK, whether they have significant White ancestry or not.

Some of our greatest leaders, warriors have been light-skinned or mixed people.

Stop stirring shyt up.

Tell me Frederick Douglass or Adam Clayton Powell aren't "Black" because they're mixed, please


We are a heavily mixed people due to our history of slavery & living in a melting pot.

These are our leaders

Now, some of these people are biracial and others are just of mixed ancestry like most African-Americans are.

Please, non ADOS people respect our culture & our history on OUR board

I'd love one of you motherfukkers to tell Frederick Douglass that he had a "easy life" because his father was White

+1

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You're pivoting hard right now. You said she sees herself as black. Race IS purely biologically determined. Is she black or is she not? And it's not *an* ethnic marker its the key one ,unless you can be white and AADOS? Try not to break your ankles this time. Oh and then explain to me how a group of people who relate to each through ANCESTRY isnt largely biologically determimed.

scientific race is biological

social race is partly biological, part social

the girl in the OP checks all the marks for what qualifies as "Black" in the USA

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Please post a light skinned black woman that has obvious white features like this lady? Light skinned black women do not look like this woman.

And I'm sorry you cannot compare half white to a black person who is half non-AA. One looks black, the other only looks part black. No one is thinking about reparations when they see you.

 

[Supper]

You're contradicting your own argument. It doesn't matter what the original definition of "race" was used for this is non sequitur to the argument. ALL classifications were originally rudimentary before more rigorous taxonomy was developed to describe it and this is what we're using in the discussion and now and in general as well as in the U.S. You mentioning latin america like they're the only place on Earth is irrelevant.

Okay? And even still the dominant view by the scientific community is that biological "races" don't exist. So, whether you're appealing to it's origins or it's current consensus view race is not based in biology, but a social construct. If you attempted to shape racial taxonomy to fit biological realities you'd end up with a system completely not reminiscent of what we all know as race at all. "Blacks" and "whites" simply wouldn't exist in this racial taxon. People of Sub saharan african descent ALONE would be entirely too diverse genetically to fit into an all inclusive category that doesn't include damn near the rest of the human race.

We can nearly perfectly identify someone's race using their DNA it's distinctly biological.

Yeah no. What you can do it use dna to determine which part of the world and/or which people groups they genetically cluster with. And then extrapolate "race" using western classification systems which are arbitrarily assigned due to PHENOTYPE, not genetics, of what race these distinct people groups and/or natives from those parts of the world belong to(which has been subject to change many times and there's actually still no general consensus on for many of them even among race realist, who are themselves fringe in the science community). But these different people groups being assigned to these races aren't necessarily based in any biology at all but perceived phenotype, even though the individuals themselves being assigned to the people groups is. For instance you could use dna to determine that Illhan Omar's genetic profile clusters with that of the horn of Africa's somali population, but Somali people's collective genetic profile would show much more affinity to that of non-black north africans, middle easterners and southern europeans than to us AADOS, yet we're all "black" according to you. Tell me, what is the biological basis for AADOS and Somalis being apart of the same racial group?

Don't even get me started on people groups who aren't even of recent SSA ancestry like Andaman Islanders, Filipino Aetas, Papuans, and Australia Aboriginals, but are considered to be "racially black".

"Black" in the us today is used to describe race AND also nomenclature to identify of aados. But no one sees a white man and claims he is AADOS like you're doing in your nebulous identification to arbitrarily group together people who aren't connected.

Actually *WE* do claim people who are from our community that are phenotypically what most consider "white" as one of our own and that has been the "tragic"/romantic story of all throughout OUR history.

This man is ethnically AADOS.

So is this man.

So is this man

Ain't shyt arbitrary about it, because they fit the definition of being aados in every way. They're the descendants of chattel slaves from the contiguous US(or what is today such), part of the community, are practice aados culture, and come from families that carry black ethnic identity.

And blackness is an essential part of AADOS identity. You can't separate the two. So, anyone who is AADOS carries black ethnic identity with them.

And no one from OUR community has ever questioned their blackness ethnically speaking. It's only non-ados outsiders who don't know anything about our history or culture, but want to co opt our identity and struggle for themseves that try to come in and tell us who is and isn't part of our ethnicity.

When someone says they see a BLACK man he could be Haitian, Nigerian, Jamaican or whatever. When someone is speaking specifically about the particular subcultures in America sure people substitute "black", but in generalities when speaking about IDENTITY it's used today almost exclusively to reference race. You're just being obtuse to push a narrative. Ilhan Omhar is called black by most of the public. They aren't calling her ADOS. And finally my family has more than likely been here longer than yours and we ALL call blacks blacks white white and biracial biracials :yeshurg:

And here we go again with you outsiders trying to place so much emphasis on how OTHER PEOPLE VIEW US, instead of how we view ourselves and how we function within our own community, as if we should just allow ourselves to be defined based on how outsiders view us(you'd like that wouldn't you).

And even that point is flimsy at best. White Americans may identity a haitian, nigerian, jamaican or w/e as "black" upon first sight, but once they begin to interact with them they quickly become "ethnic" in their minds, completely distinct from actual black americans. Otherwise you wouldn't have concepts like model minorities. Studies show West Indians and Africans themselves report lower rates of racism from non-blacks in the work force than AADOS. Our experiences and even other people's "racial" perception of us in the US is not the same.

This is something African's have always known as well.

Perhaps the most famous example of “African passing” is the infamous anecdote of former UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan. A student in 1960s U.S., Annan had traveled to the Jim Crow South. He needed a haircut, but was told by a racist white barber: “I do not cut ****** hair.” Annan, who is Ghanaian, responded: “I am not a ******, I am an African.” In doing this, Annan did not challenge the degradation pre-assigned to him by virtue of his skin color, and accepted the premise that there is something inherently pathological about American blackness to which black people from Africa are impervious.

Black African immigrants, race and police brutality in America

^^^^You're telling me they just see us all as "fellow blacks", though right?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Alicia Keys on her father

and

Your mother is Irish-Italian, and your father is... what? Jamaican?



Everybody thinks I’m Jamaican, but I’m not. My father grew up in Maryland.

Interview with Alicia Keys : “Fame is worse than heroin…”

 

[Voice of Reason]

The optics aren't good on this one dude put on a for a mixed chick then claim they love and support black women

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Of course black people come in all shades but what about her features? Some features are undeniably unique to us.

......vs a few non-biracial ADOS

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(her parents)

 

[Houston911]

Again race be damned

If reparations was given out now, the same logic applied that because biracials are half they cant get it, would be applied to Half ADOS/Half Nonados people to

and this chick looks like other lightskin ADOS women as so other biracials alot of them look like lightskin BW.

It aint about me hating anybody, fact is they are Half-ADOS so they are the same. I repeat, race be damned.

you have got to be the dumbest person on the Internet

if I have 2 parents who descend from slaves

and someone else has one parent who descend from slaves

why would we be entitled to an equal amount?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

you have got to be the dumbest person on the Internet

if I have 2 parents who descend from slaves

and someone else has one parent who descend from slaves

why would we be entitled to an equal amount?

so which of these 5 are black + qualify for reparations and who isn't/doesn't?

 

[Houston911]

so which of these 5 are black + qualify for reparations and who isn't/doesn't?

I don’t care what they look like nicca

Reparations max = 300k Per person

you get 75k for each ados grandparent

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I don’t care what they look like nicca

Reparations max = 300k Per person

you get 75k for each ados grandparent

just answer the question

 

[AAKing23]

If she wasn’t attractive would that many nikkas had pulled up? Would any had pulled up at all if she looked like precious?

Man y'all nikkas are insufferable Thread got derailed over nothin

 

[Budda]

Okay? And even still the dominant view by the scientific community is that biological "races" don't exist. So, whether you're appealing to it's origins or it's current consensus view race is not based in biology, but a social construct. If you attempted to shape racial taxonomy to fit biological realities you'd end up with a system completely not reminiscent of what we all know as race at all. "Blacks" and "whites" simply wouldn't exist in this racial taxon. People of Sub saharan african descent ALONE would be entirely too diverse genetically to fit into an all inclusive category that doesn't include damn near the rest of the human race.



Yeah no. What you can do it use dna to determine which part of the world and/or which people groups they genetically cluster with. And then extrapolate "race" using western classification systems which are arbitrarily assigned due to PHENOTYPE, not genetics, of what race these distinct people groups and/or natives from those parts of the world belong to(which has been subject to change many times and there's actually still no general consensus on for many of them even among race realist, who are themselves fringe in the science community). But these different people groups being assigned to these races aren't necessarily based in any biology at all but perceived phenotype, even though the individuals themselves being assigned to the people groups is. For instance you could use dna to determine that Illhan Omar's genetic profile clusters with that of the horn of Africa's somali population, but Somali people's collective genetic profile would show much more affinity to that of non-black north africans, middle easterners and southern europeans than to us AADOS, yet we're all "black" according to you. Tell me, what is the biological basis for AADOS and Somalis being apart of the same racial group?

Don't even get me started on people groups who aren't even of recent SSA ancestry like Andaman Islanders, Filipino Aetas, Papuans, and Australia Aboriginals, but are considered to be "racially black".



Actually *WE* do claim people who are from our community that are phenotypically what most consider "white" as one of our own and that has been the "tragic"/romantic story of all throughout OUR history.

This man is ethnically AADOS.

So is this man.

So is this man

Ain't shyt arbitrary about it, because they fit the definition of being aados in every way. They're the descendants of chattel slaves from the contiguous US(or what is today such), part of the community, are practice aados culture, and come from families that carry black ethnic identity.

And blackness is an essential part of AADOS identity. You can't separate the two. So, anyone who is AADOS carries black ethnic identity with them.

And no one from OUR community has ever questioned their blackness ethnically speaking. It's only non-ados outsiders who don't know anything about our history or culture, but want to co opt our identity and struggle for themseves that try to come in and tell us who is and isn't part of our ethnicity.




And here we go again with you outsiders trying to place so much emphasis on how OTHER PEOPLE VIEW US, instead of how we view ourselves and how we function within our own community, as if we should just allow ourselves to be defined based on how outsiders view us(you'd like that wouldn't you).

And even that point is flimsy at best. White Americans may identity a haitian, nigerian, jamaican or w/e as "black" upon first sight, but once they begin to interact with them they quickly become "ethnic" in their minds, completely distinct from actual black americans. Otherwise you wouldn't have concepts like model minorities. Studies show West Indians and Africans themselves report lower rates of racism from non-blacks in the work force than AADOS. Our experiences and even other people's "racial" perception of us in the US is not the same.

This is something African's have always known as well.


Black African immigrants, race and police brutality in America

^^^^You're telling me they just see us all as "fellow blacks", though right?

Once they interact with them they quickly become ethnic? What type of interaction is that..Not the type of interaction you have with the police or judge, in a job interview I hear you.

 

[Houston911]

just answer the question

steph curry has 3 ados Grandparents
Biggie mama is Jamaican, don’t know what his dad is
Faith is mixed ados
The heavily mixed guy from 1924, his family is prolly full fledged Caucasian by now

 

[IllmaticDelta]

steph curry has 3 ados Grandparents
Biggie mama is Jamaican, don’t know what his dad is
Faith is mixed ados
The heavily mixed guy from 1924, his family is prolly full fledged Caucasian by now

steph = 2 ados parents

walter white = 2 ados parents (but white looking)

biggie = 2 non-ados parents

ros gold = Nigerian-Biracial

Faith Evans= ADOS Biracial


....basically that post illustrated how dumb yall sound denying a "black identified" Biracial, their right to blackness (Faith Evans); while attempting to deny those same biracials their right to blackness, there are MONORACIAL Aframs (walter white) who look whiter than the biracials and lastly, ADOS Biracials (faith evans) are closer to ADOS because of genetic/social/kinship ties, than wholly Black immigrants or Biracial-Black Immigrants (Biggie and Ros Gold) and that why's they also deserve that reparations check.