Justice Department Will Award Up to $246 Million to Improve Public Safety in Native Communities

[xoxodede]

Whatever and we the same people lol.

Just 2 different outlooks on life. No harm in that.

You have no clue what our outlook is. Assumptions are cute though

I'll make the assumption -- that your people have the reparations outlook as well -- but they are not shamed for it.

Enjoy your day.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Whatever and we the same people lol.

Just 2 different outlooks on life. No harm in that.

cancel out your own statement, non-American brehs. That's the same excuse cacs use.
That means that we are not the same, that is the textbook definition of different people.

 

[Ill-Mind]

You guys need to visit a reservation sometime. Seriously.

And you need to visit the various impoverished, predominantly black neighborhoods across America. Seriously.

 

[xoxodede]

...Why not both?

This isn't, and shouldn't be, a zero-sum game.

The only people who benefit from conflicts between minority groups are well-off whites. Never forget that.

That is what I am saying! We are not saying it's an issue -- the point of this thread was to show there are ALSO specific programs and grants that can be issued to ADOS and our communities.

But, concern trolls and anti-ADOS buddies want to turn it into something else. As always though

 

[TRY GOD]

I'm sure you never lived in one though.

@Robbie3000 is nonADOS, with an AntiADOS podcast

 

[Professor Emeritus]

nobody is bytching about them getting money. They deserve everything they get and more.

We are angry because people claim ados cannot tangibles strictly for us when it happens for other groups all the time.

They didnt get the full amount of reparations they deserve and they are still under control of the american government. Rightful reparations would have been the entire southwestern states plus hundreds of billions in aid every year. Not small reservations that sit in resources that are still taken from them.

Most of what you said is sensible, but there were 8-10 posts specifically bytching about them.

But like @Squirrel from Meteor Man said, are these even tangibles? Look at the OP:

"CTAS awards cover nine purpose areas: public safety and community policing; justice systems planning; alcohol and substance abuse; corrections and correctional alternatives; children’s justice act partnerships; services for victims of crime; violence against women; juvenile justice; and tribal youth programs. CTAS funding helps tribes develop and strengthen their justice systems’ response to crime, while expanding services to meet their communities’ public safety needs."

Those are all good things, for Natives and for everyone else too, but $246 million for community policing, corrections, substance abuse and youth programs is pretty much just a drop in the bucket for the status quo. It's not much money and it's not the sort of stuff I usually hear being called "tangibles" elsewhere.

This is what ADOS communities need -- it can go off of median HHI and other stats.

The Department of Justice launched its Coordinated Tribal Assistance Solicitation (CTAS) in Fiscal Year 2010 in direct response to concerns raised by tribal leaders about the Department’s grant process that did not provide the flexibility tribes needed to address their criminal justice and public safety needs. In Fiscal Year 2018 the department awarded more than $113 million to 133 American Indian tribes, Alaska Native villages, tribal consortia and tribal designees. The grants will provide funds to enhance law enforcement practices and sustain crime prevention and intervention efforts across nine purpose areas including public safety and community policing; justice systems planning; alcohol and substance abuse; corrections and correctional alternatives; violence against women; juvenile justice; and tribal youth programs. Additionally, FY18 funding included up to $133 million to be used to serve tribal victims of crime.

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The organization is: Office of Tribal Justice and Tribal Justice and Safety

We would have to work with the Justice Department as a organization -- but it would have to be accompanied with a specific Act.

Such as: Tribal Law and Order Act (TLOA). 25 U.S.C. § 3665a(2010).

President Obama signed the Tribal Law and Order Act into law on July 29, 2010. The Tribal Law and Order Act helps to address crime in tribal communities and places a strong emphasis on decreasing violence against American Indian and Alaska Native women. The Act encourages the hiring of more law enforcement officers for Indian lands and provides additional tools to address critical public safety needs. Specifically, the law enhances tribes' authority to prosecute and punish criminals; expands efforts to recruit, train and keep Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and Tribal police officers; and provides BIA and Tribal police officers with greater access to criminal information sharing databases. It authorizes new guidelines for handling sexual assault and domestic violence crimes, from training for law enforcement and court officers, to boosting conviction rates through better evidence collection, to providing better and more comprehensive services to victims. It also encourages development of more effective prevention programs to combat alcohol and drug abuse among at-risk youth.

The Tribal Law & Order Act helps to address crime in tribal communities and places a strong emphasis on decreasing violence against American Indian and Alaska Native women. The Act encourages the hiring of more law enforcement officers for Indian lands and provides additional tools to address critical public safety needs. Specifically, the law enhances tribes' authority to prosecute and punish criminals; expands efforts to recruit, train and keep Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and Tribal police officers; and provides BIA and Tribal police officers with greater access to criminal information sharing databases. It authorizes new guidelines for handling sexual assault and domestic violence crimes, from training for law enforcement and court officers, to boosting conviction rates through better evidence collection, to providing better and more comprehensive services to victims. It also encourages development of more effective prevention programs to combat alcohol and drug abuse among at-risk youth.​

Tribal Law and Order Act

This is one of the most helpful posts in the conversation so far because it's getting at what we really need to look at.

The problem being that White people are willing to sign off on this shyt for three reasons:

1. The Native American community ain't that large compared to other minority communities.

2. The Native American reservations that are addressed in this legislation don't have that much interaction with white communities so the white people in power think of them as a separate world.

3. The Natives were so soundly defeated and became so non-threatening that White people generally felt guilty for what had happened and don't mind admitting that more needs to be done. While the Black community has never been knocked down to that level, they to this day remain a "threat" in the eyes of White Supremacy, so White people are scared to admit the same level of wrong done or responsibility for making things right.


For all three of those reasons it's going to be a much longer, more nuanced road. I think that most of the work right now needs to be down community-to-community (like striking against certain abuse city councils or getting certain police departments completely defunded) and it will be a while before momentum builds to the point where any serious reparations discussion will be entertained. But I can't say I've always been able to predict which way the wind would blow.

 

[TRY GOD]

We did. And no one is against this. We are only making notice of specific programs.

The dishonestly is alarming -- but not surprising.

Again @Thomas is hatian AntiADOS, he doesn't care that the actual topic is about how there are set asides for specific groups except ados.

He is here to cause confusion and muddy the message and say ADOS Don't care about Native Americans, like he is doing in that post

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

How about formally make your detailed demands to the current administration?

 

[xoxodede]

Most of what you said is sensible, but there were 8-10 posts specifically bytching about them.

But like @Squirrel from Meteor Man said, are these even tangibles? Look at the OP:

"CTAS awards cover nine purpose areas: public safety and community policing; justice systems planning; alcohol and substance abuse; corrections and correctional alternatives; children’s justice act partnerships; services for victims of crime; violence against women; juvenile justice; and tribal youth programs. CTAS funding helps tribes develop and strengthen their justice systems’ response to crime, while expanding services to meet their communities’ public safety needs."

Those are all good things, for Natives and for everyone else too, but $246 million for community policing, corrections, substance abuse and youth programs is pretty much just a drop in the bucket for the status quo. It's not much money and it's not the sort of stuff I usually hear being called "tangibles" elsewhere.





This is one of the most helpful posts in the conversation so far because it's getting at what we really need to look at.

The problem being that White people are willing to sign off on this shyt for three reasons:

1. The Native American community ain't that large compared to other minority communities.

2. The Native American reservations that are addressed in this legislation don't have that much interaction with white communities so the white people in power think of them as a separate world.

3. The Natives were so soundly defeated and became so non-threatening that White people generally felt guilty for what had happened and don't mind admitting that more needs to be done. While the Black community has never been knocked down to that level, they to this day remain a "threat" in the eyes of White Supremacy, so White people are scared to admit the same level of wrong down or responsibility for making things right.


For all three of those reasons it's going to be a much longer, more nuanced road. I think that most of the work right now needs to be down community-to-community (like striking against certain abuse city councils or getting certain police departments completely defunded) and it will be a while before momentum builds to the point where any serious reparations discussion will be entertained. But I can't say I've always been able to predict which way the wind would blow.

Thanks for your response.

This post was not about -- nor to compare anything to reparations. Hence, you and @Squirrel from Meteor Man comment is invalid here. This was about how we as ADOS have other routes to help ourselves and our communities.

It was also not to compare our struggle to Natives. That can be argued elsewhere. It was to showcase examples on what we can ask (demand) from our representatives in the meantime.

Fighting for Reparations is ongoing -- and will be until achieved. There is not time-limit on doing so.

On your White people spill -- I can't worry about that -- nor should anyone else. We can do what we need to do -- and make sure we cover all bases. White people don't and won't accept or like anything -- but that shouldn't stop us from going after what is owed.

Again, thanks for comment.

 

[Robbie3000]

I'm sure you never lived in one though.

I grew up in East Atlanta. Zone 3 and Zone 6. I went to East Atlanta (Now Thurgood Marshall) middle school and South side(Now Maynard Jackson) High School.

 

[JBoy]

the reservations are the most destitute areas in America , this is barely a drop in the bucket for the issues they need fixed to improve quality of life.

 

[xoxodede]

I grew up in East Atlanta. Zone 3 and Zone 6. I went to East Atlanta (Now Thurgood Marshall) middle school and South side(Now Maynard Jackson) High School.

Sure. But, that isn't the example of the HOOD sir that should be compared to reservations. As we have many that can be.

But, since you are not ADOS you probably don't know that -- therefore stay out the convo.

Enjoy your anti-ADOS day

 

[Robbie3000]

Sure. But, that isn't the example of the HOOD sir that should be compare to reservations. As we have many that can be.

But, since you are not ADOS you probably don't know that -- therefore stay out the convo.

Enjoy your anti-ADOS day

What the fukk are you talking about? There are no hoods in East Atlanta now?

 

[xoxodede]

the reservations are the most destitute areas in America , this is barely a drop in the bucket for the issues they need fixed to improve quality of life.

I'm sure some of them are. But, this thread isn't to compare -- it's to showcase specific programs to address those issues. Thanks!

List of lowest-income places in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[xoxodede]

What the fukk are you talking about? There are no hoods in East Atlanta now?

I didn't say that sir. You claim you would rather live in a "black hood" than a reservation. I am addressing that your "hood" isn't the example of many "hoods" as you call them. Your hood may not be bad (maybe in your eyes it is) but it's plenty of ADOS neighborhoods that can be compared to the quality of Reservations -- it we were doing that.

But, we aint. Again -- this isn't your lane.