Kaepernick has filed a lawsuit against the NFL. Edit: Kaepernick trying to blow the system up.Salute

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Majority of you are really underestimating how hard it is to prove collusion. If he does not have emails, recorded conversations, or a witness he has no case. Just pointing out that teams have qbs on their roster worst them him doesn't prove collusion because if those teams independently came to the conclusion they don't want him that is not collusion. Also, this is not a trial it is a private arbitration hearing so subpoenas or warrants are not going to be issued and the burden on proof on Kaep isn't going to be probably he is going to have to show without a shadow of a doubt that a number of parties colluded against them. The fact that the ravens owner said what he said proves he was not colluding especially with what ray lewis has said on the air about the ravens situation. Go back and look at the barry bonds collusion case against the mlb and barry had a better case based on performance alone than kaep himself has and he lost his collusion case.
 

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If nothing comes from this but texts, phone calls and emails ( not blacked out) good

I want to see what owner's say behind closed doors.

Pardon my ignorance here, but how exactly is he supposed to get those? Is a subpeona gonna be issued to the cell phone carrier? Does he have a mole? Cuz otherwise if I'm an owner I'm deleting everything that could be used against me at this moment.

I'm pretty sure his lawyer knows all of this and he will try to prove it. We don't know what they have or what will be obtained. You saying it's "difficult", yes it is but it's not like this lawyer was born and graduated last night. He will look into everything.

This. All these Coli lawyers are cracking me up.

Majority of you are really underestimating how hard it is to prove collusion. If he does not have emails, recorded conversations, or a witness he has no case. Just pointing out that teams have qbs on their roster worst them him doesn't prove collusion because if those teams independently came to the conclusion they don't want him that is not collusion. Also, this is not a trial it is a private arbitration hearing so subpoenas or warrants are not going to be issued and the burden on proof on Kaep isn't going to be probably he is going to have to show without a shadow of a doubt that a number of parties colluded against them. The fact that the ravens owner said what he said proves he was not colluding especially with what ray lewis has said on the air about the ravens situation. Go back and look at the barry bonds collusion case against the mlb and barry had a better case based on performance alone than kaep himself has and he lost his collusion case.

:patrice:

This goes back to the first question I asked. How does he get access to records of collusion?
 

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When i go to work tomorrow. I am going to show this to a colleague of mine and see what she thinks because just reading that doesn't strike me as a strong enough case for collusion. (colleague is a latina and deals primarily in labor law and works with unions)
 

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Pardon my ignorance here, but how exactly is he supposed to get those? Is a subpeona gonna be issued to the cell phone carrier? Does he have a mole? Cuz otherwise if I'm an owner I'm deleting everything that could be used against me at this moment.



This. All these Coli lawyers are cracking me up.



:patrice:

This goes back to the first question I asked. How does he get access to records of collusion?

Some one comes forward and gives emails, a memo, a letter to his lawyer, maybe a conversation with his agents and a pair of team executives and some how he comes up and openly discuss blackballing him and they can provide a testimonial, like i said it is really hard to prove collusion. i don't know what information his lawyer has but reading what his lawyer submitted outlining his case that won't prove collusion.
 

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Let's NOT forget, Kaep could have a snitch in the organization of one of these teams. Someone might have shot him some incriminating emails on the low. I don't think Mark Gregaros is a fool. He wouldn't take this case unless he thought he had a chance to win. Plus, I bet there are millionaire donors that will fund Kaep's case against the NFL. I doubt it's just him coming out of pocket.
 

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They ain't even dig into everything yet :dwillhuh:

That's not the point, this is their opening statement, it is like a thesis. Your thesis doesn't go into everything but it sets the table for your argument to follow and based on that statement i do not see kaep's ability to successfully prove collusion with those arguments but my focus is constitutional law which is why i am going to ask someone whose focus is labor law what they think.
 

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Let's NOT forget, Kaep could have a snitch in the organization of one of these teams. Someone might have shot him some incriminating emails on the low. I don't think Mark Gregaros is a fool. He wouldn't take this case unless he thought he had a chance to win. Plus, I bet there are millionaire donors that will fund Kaep's case against the NFL. I doubt it's just him coming out of pocket.

Meh, you would be surprised how many cases lawyers take for the profile despite having little chance at winning the actual case but hopefully, he does have something to support his case.
 

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Majority of you are really underestimating how hard it is to prove collusion. If he does not have emails, recorded conversations, or a witness he has no case. Just pointing out that teams have qbs on their roster worst them him doesn't prove collusion because if those teams independently came to the conclusion they don't want him that is not collusion. Also, this is not a trial it is a private arbitration hearing so subpoenas or warrants are not going to be issued and the burden on proof on Kaep isn't going to be probably he is going to have to show without a shadow of a doubt that a number of parties colluded against them. The fact that the ravens owner said what he said proves he was not colluding especially with what ray lewis has said on the air about the ravens situation. Go back and look at the barry bonds collusion case against the mlb and barry had a better case based on performance alone than kaep himself has and he lost his collusion case.
Owners are on record saying they would never sign him though. So this entire long post means nothing.
 

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Majority of you are really underestimating how hard it is to prove collusion. If he does not have emails, recorded conversations, or a witness he has no case. Just pointing out that teams have qbs on their roster worst them him doesn't prove collusion because if those teams independently came to the conclusion they don't want him that is not collusion. Also, this is not a trial it is a private arbitration hearing so subpoenas or warrants are not going to be issued and the burden on proof on Kaep isn't going to be probably he is going to have to show without a shadow of a doubt that a number of parties colluded against them. The fact that the ravens owner said what he said proves he was not colluding especially with what ray lewis has said on the air about the ravens situation. Go back and look at the barry bonds collusion case against the mlb and barry had a better case based on performance alone than kaep himself has and he lost his collusion case.

They don't want to believe that hard reality. But they'll going to learn surely enough.
 

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Majority of you are really underestimating how hard it is to prove collusion. If he does not have emails, recorded conversations, or a witness he has no case. Just pointing out that teams have qbs on their roster worst them him doesn't prove collusion because if those teams independently came to the conclusion they don't want him that is not collusion. Also, this is not a trial it is a private arbitration hearing so subpoenas or warrants are not going to be issued and the burden on proof on Kaep isn't going to be probably he is going to have to show without a shadow of a doubt that a number of parties colluded against them. The fact that the ravens owner said what he said proves he was not colluding especially with what ray lewis has said on the air about the ravens situation. Go back and look at the barry bonds collusion case against the mlb and barry had a better case based on performance alone than kaep himself has and he lost his collusion case.
Al Davis’s kids should donate whatever knowledge that goat entrusted them with

It’s how he’d want it to be handled
 

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Owners are on record saying they would never sign him though. So this entire long post means nothing.

Again, INDIVIDUAL owners saying they won't sign him and a collective of them conspiring to ban him from the league are not the same.

You know what collusion is? It's not simply random owners having their own independent opinion.
 
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