Kaepernick has filed a lawsuit against the NFL. Edit: Kaepernick trying to blow the system up.Salute

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because his reward isn't worth the risk.

His talent doesn't overcome his distraction.
here yall go giving stupid ass AmeriKKKans too much credit again.
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muthafukkas gonna stop coming to games...
then if he gets them winning turn around and start coming back.
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funny thing about that.
remember when Ali died, white people with the crocodile tears like "he was the GOAT... he sacrificed his prime years by using his platiform speaking out against injustice"
then not even 4 months later, Kap and Eric Reed kneels and they like
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A thousand reps

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backup Qb's have typically been one of two ppl:

1) the young guy, that is coming up next and is just learning the system. (Aaron Rodgers)

2) the vet that is there to help the next guy, coach him up and just be there in the locker room, film room. (Matt Moore).


Kap is more than talented enough to be a back up Qb. but with the media circus surrounding him, is that type of distraction worth it for your team for a player that probably won't get much field time?
many teams didn't think so.

he does have NFL talent, there is no doubt he can play. But he's an average starter, and not too many places in the league he can actually go right now and start.

if there wasn't this media circus surrounding him I have no doubt he'd be on a team in some capacity. but for many teams, the risk wasn't worth the reward.

Teams have proven time and time again, that they will take a media circus if the player has the talent to play (Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, etc.) shyt teams will even take on scumbags like Ray lewis if they can contribute to the win.
You're arguing with a wall on this forum, no matter how much you drill it into people that professional sports is a business, they want to avoid that end of it.

In this case, because it's race related, people want to pretend that the merits of the NFL don't hold any validity, when it's a pretty universal application and people would agree with the NFL is just about any other circumstance.

I've said it a million times on here...he's good enough to be in the league...but his controversy is bigger than his talent. It's bad for business. Plenty of players (non-race related) have been left on the side of the road for similar reasons.

Some for domestic violence related reasons....some for drugs and alcohol...others simply for their lack of seriousness and commitment to the trade.

The NFL can always make the argument individual owners decided not to bring him on for business related purposes. It doesn't have to be "collusion" related. To grant Kaep a win would send a message that the NFL would have to ignore the problems that other players bring with them onto a team.
 

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get out of your emotions bruh. save that feminine shyt for somewhere else.

that is all well and good, and I do actually recall reading that before.

the point still remains though. What team is he a significant upgrade to be a starter for?
and why would any team take that circus on for a back up?

I usually don't feed trolls, which is clearly what you are and we all know it, but I'll bite. These are the significant upgrades

Trevor Siemian
Jay Cutler
Deshone Kizer/Kevin Hogan
Brett Hundley (now that he's a starter)
Brian Hoyer/CJ Beathard
Eli Manning
Blake Bortles

If I had more time I'm sure I could make a case for Rivers (been terrible since last year), McNown, and Rothelisburger (been terrible since last season).

As far as why they'd take the circus, they were ok with Riley Cooper saying he'd fight every ****** at a country concert. They were ok with taken a kicker who beat his wife. Dante Stallworth killed a guy and they were cool with it. None of those people have the talent level of Kaep, but their teams kept them. Those old rich men don't give a fukk about no one being a circus if they can help their team. The reason they wanted Kaep out was to set an example for any other player that got out of line.
 

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You're arguing with a wall on this forum, no matter how much you drill it into people that professional sports is a business, they want to avoid that end of it.

In this case, because it's race related, people want to pretend that the merits of the NFL don't hold any validity, when it's a pretty universal application and people would agree with the NFL is just about any other circumstance.

I've said it a million times on here...he's good enough to be in the league...but his controversy is bigger than his talent. It's bad for business. Plenty of players (non-race related) have been left on the side of the road for similar reasons.

Some for domestic violence related reasons....some for drugs and alcohol...others simply for their lack of seriousness and commitment to the trade.

The NFL can always make the argument individual owners decided not to bring him on for business related purposes. It doesn't have to be "collusion" related. To grant Kaep a win would send a message that the NFL would have to ignore the problems that other players bring with them onto a team.

Do you realize you're quoting an alt-right troll or are you one as well?
 

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What risk :sas1:

And him being on a roster is a distraction is a lie created from white supremacist thought. The reality is blatant discrimination is distracting and is the reason the boycott movement has taken off

Why do you sir refuse to acknowledge that? I know why white supremacist do it, what's your reason :sas2:
Risk vs Reward.

The Risk that a backup QB would generate to much attention and distraction for the rest of the team, at minimal reward to the overall team.

There have been many other players that have come with a media circus around them, but their play of the field (reward) was much more worth the risk.
 

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Come on, you think no one was going to notice you back up an alt-right right lame when you've been very suspect yourself? Stop playing dumb.
stop living in the past...you sound like you're from the 50s and calling everyone a communist.

No matter what you say....my opinion on the matter remains as is.
 

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here yall go giving stupid ass AmeriKKKans too much credit again.
:beli:

muthafukkas gonna stop coming to games...
then if he gets them winning turn around and start coming back.
:pachaha:
the 49ers won 2 games last year. with him at QB.

Only teams looking for a QB are teams just like them. he wouldn't be winning much on the Browns or similar teams either.

So why not Draft a new guy and put your chips on them rather than bringing in a guy with so much around him (which TBH, isn't even his fault, but the media would make it a problem)
 

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I usually don't feed trolls, which is clearly what you are and we all know it, but I'll bite. These are the significant upgrades

Trevor Siemian
Jay Cutler
Deshone Kizer/Kevin Hogan
Brett Hundley (now that he's a starter)
Brian Hoyer/CJ Beathard
Eli Manning
Blake Bortles

If I had more time I'm sure I could make a case for Rivers (been terrible since last year), McNown, and Rothelisburger (been terrible since last season).

As far as why they'd take the circus, they were ok with Riley Cooper saying he'd fight every ****** at a country concert. They were ok with taken a kicker who beat his wife. Dante Stallworth killed a guy and they were cool with it. None of those people have the talent level of Kaep, but their teams kept them. Those old rich men don't give a fukk about no one being a circus if they can help their team. The reason they wanted Kaep out was to set an example for any other player that got out of line.

Somewhat misleading, because the situations that you're referring to aren't entirely accurate or 100% the same. Plus there are several players over the years who had questionable on the field and off the field behavioral problems who haven't been picked up either.

There really isn't a one-size-fits-all formula to it.

But just keep in mind that one of the MAJOR differences in your examples is that all of those positions are less prestigious than a NFL QB would be.

QBs for the most part are the face of the franchise. What they do and don't do tends to be under much more scrutiny by the media than a Punter, or WR would. The only guy off the top of my head who had a similar controversial behavior would be Ben Rothlesburger. But then again, he's headed to the HOF and won two Superbowls, so the Steelers probably looked the other way on it. In otherwords they thought he was worth it.

Vick had the same problem, he was basically blackballed when he came out of a jail. He only got on because he was still EXTREMELY talented and Andy Reid took a chance on him with a rock bottom price. He played well for the Birds, and people overlooked his past, so other teams were willing to take a chance on him once he left.

Kaep isn't Ben or Vick....I don't know what else to tell ya :manny:
 
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