Kaepernick has filed a lawsuit against the NFL. Edit: Kaepernick trying to blow the system up.Salute

[Tyrantus]

"basement dwelling loser"


yay, another prepubescent teen talking shyt online.....

oh if you only knew..... I guarantee most of y'all would kill to have the life I've lived.

You're loving the attention you're getting getting in this thread, huh? Best part of your day. Yeah I'm sure plenty would kill for that life you live. Alright, I'll stop giving life and go back to ignoring you now.

Lord what a loser

 

[PS5 Pro]

I'm not quoting anyone. Plenty of sports and business analysts have made the same assessment.

Do you believe in white supremacy, yes or no? If yes, apply it

Risk vs Reward.

The Risk that a backup QB would generate to much attention and distraction for the rest of the team, at minimal reward to the overall team.

There have been many other players that have come with a media circus around them, but their play of the field (reward) was much more worth the risk.

Once again, what risk. Just saying the word risk doesn't make it fact or even true

When you are as indoctrinated as you are, you think somehow that standing up to racism is a distraction to a locker room just think about that for one extra second. Who would it distract exactly, Riley Cooper?

Meanwhile, you and the racist who shape your thought actually thought openly practising discrimination would be less of a distraction Do you see my point now? Moving on...

Somewhat misleading, because the situations that you're referring to aren't entirely accurate or 100% the same. Plus there are several players over the years who had questionable on the field and off the field behavioral problems who haven't been picked up either.

There really isn't a one-size-fits-all formula to it.

But just keep in mind that one of the MAJOR differences in your examples is that all of those positions are less prestigious than a NFL QB would be.

QBs for the most part are the face of the franchise. What they do and don't do tends to be under much more scrutiny by the media than a Punter, or WR would. The only guy off the top of my head who had a similar controversial behavior would be Ben Rothlesburger. But then again, he's headed to the HOF and won two Superbowls, so the Steelers probably looked the other way on it. In otherwords they thought he was worth it.

Vick had the same problem, he was basically blackballed when he came out of a jail. He only got on because he was still EXTREMELY talented and Andy Reid took a chance on him with a rock bottom price. He played well for the Birds, and people overlooked his past, so other teams were willing to take a chance on him once he left.

Kaep isn't Ben or Vick....I don't know what else to tell ya

Kap is not Vick? He not pegged as a running QB?
System gotta be designed for him, they didn't say that about Vick (or any black QB)

And all these players you said that couldn't get back into the league

Let me tell you the difference. Those players committed a crime. What crime did Kappernick do for you to group him up with real and strawmen people

Significant?
Ok let's see.....

Trevor Siemian? meh, that's arguable. His second year was similar to kapernicks better years. Plus he's still young and learning

Jay Cutler - Absolutely I think Kap is better than him. But with this you are missing context. Tannehill IS the dolphins future. He just went down in August, Gase and Cutler worked together recently and Cutler knew the system so it was easier to bring him in with short time before the season. If tannehill was out before OTA and they didn't bring in Kap then that would be something different for sure.

Kizer - He's a second round pick, you are building or the future.

Hundley - was never projected to be the starter, ever.

Hoyer - Kap was on the 49ers already.....how did that work out?

Eli - Giants would never let him go, loyalty on both sides, eventhough Eli is waning left.

Bortles - Playing on a bad team (kap gets a pass, why not bortles?) , but the biggest thing here is that his cap hit is like 25 million over this year and next. I think they will ride him out until then. His stats show that he can play, and he can ball out, he's just very inconsistent.

But the Steelers are Chargers aren't letting go of those long term players. They have done to much for those teams.

Now, are we talking about the NFL RIGHT NOW? or are we talking about the NFL in the preseason, cuz hindsight is 20/20.


Cooper, Stallworth, etc. none of those players have what is circling around kap right now, not even close.



I'm sayin though, y'all need to stop thinking about this situation with your hearts, and start using your heads.

Toby If you have no heart your mind will be corrupt.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Toby If you have no heart your mind will be corrupt.

Sorry, I will take logic/reasoning and rational thought over heart/feelings/emotions almost every time.

 

[PS5 Pro]

Sorry, I will take logic/reasoning and rational thought over heart/feelings/emotions almost every time.

Then stop replying to me emotionally. See, logically you avoided the crux of the convo and only replied to a snippet

You have failed to explain any real risk, Just stating a guy well liked around the league that is 70% black would view him as a distraction You keep saying logic while not applying any. You're just repeating supremacist thought, will you ever think for yourself to rationalize this reality? I'm not emotional at all, so please reply instead of deflecting please, thanks

 

[MalikReloaded]

Over on Reddit these dweebs talking about Colin has no case and there was no evidence of collusion

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

I'm not sure of the specifics, but technically wouldn't Kaep have to be signed to a team to be part of the NFLPA? Obviously they would support him due to the CBA ramifications, but given he's not in the league, I don't know if they are forced to go hard for him.

Good point.

 

[filial_piety]

Do you believe in white supremacy, yes or no? If yes, apply it

Once again, what risk. Just saying the word risk doesn't make it fact or even true

When you are as indoctrinated as you are, you think somehow that standing up to racism is a distraction to a locker room just think about that for one extra second. Who would it distract exactly, Riley Cooper?

Meanwhile, you and the racist who shape your thought actually thought openly practising discrimination would be less of a distraction Do you see my point now? Moving on...

Kap is not Vick? He not pegged as a running QB?
System gotta be designed for him, they didn't say that about Vick (or any black QB)

And all these players you said that couldn't get back into the league

Let me tell you the difference. Those players committed a crime. What crime did Kappernick do for you to group him up with real and strawmen people

Toby If you have no heart your mind will be corrupt.

WOAT answers....

quick question....why doesn't Ray Rice have a job?

Career awards and highlights

• Super Bowl champion (XLVII)
• 3× Pro Bowl selection (2009, 2011, 2012)
• 2× Second-team All-Pro selection (2009, 2011)
• AFC rushing touchdowns leader (2011)[24]
• NFL scrimmage yards leader (2011)

 

[Methodical]

I have a question for some of you guys brehs.

Will Kaep's gf's tweets will be fukked his case up?.

 

[Reality Check]

Vick at the time was a very very very talented player...once in a life time some might say. Arguably a top 10 QB when he left.

And yes, he was still blackballed for the most part....he only got onto the Eagles because they were desperate for a decent QB AND they didn't have to pay him much. I think they started off paying him at the league minimum with his experience which was a far cry from his salary before he was arrested. They basically got porcelain for plastic prices.

And from my recollection, the Eagles were the only team to take the chance, at the time, the others passed on him..there was no bidding war for his services.

As an Eagles fan who was living in the area in 2009, the bolded points are wrong. The Eagles were not desperate for a decent QB by any means in 2009. McNabb was still the QB, fresh off a season where they made the NFC Championship game. They also had his future replacement Kevin Kolb in place, and a solid 3rd stringer in AJ Feeley, so to say they were angling for a decent Quarterback is well off base.

Vick signed a two year deal (1 year w/team option). First year he made $1.6 million and $5.2 the second year. The Eagles were actually the 2nd team to make an offer; the Bengals made him a similar 2-year deal but it only totaled $2.3 million. NFL minimum at that time was 650-700k, so he was getting above minimum offers in 2009, even with being out of the league for 2 years

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Terrell Owens caught 72 passes for 973 yards and 9 touchdowns in 2010 never played again.Not 1 team picked him up after that.Best believe owners talk.

 

[PS5 Pro]

WOAT answers....

quick question....why doesn't Ray Rice have a job?

Career awards and highlights

• Super Bowl champion (XLVII)
• 3× Pro Bowl selection (2009, 2011, 2012)
• 2× Second-team All-Pro selection (2009, 2011)
• AFC rushing touchdowns leader (2011)[24]
• NFL scrimmage yards leader (2011)

He's not employed because he beat the shyt out of his fiance and the video of that was made available. Anti domestic violence is a good stance

Kappernick is anti violence as well, but he's being punished for that. Tell me sir, why would you equate one as the same as the other? That's some "both sides" talk. You sounding insane right now...

I have a question for some of you guys brehs.

Will Kaep's gf's tweets will be fukked his case up?.

No, why would you even think that? Did she break a law? Is her reaction to the NFL practising discrimination worse than the NFL practising discrimination?

Is taking a knee worse than shooting unarmed black people?

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Michael Sam brought a media circus to NFL and they made sure to draft him because NFL was afraid of him saying he was discriminated.

 

[Methodical]

He's not employed because he beat the shyt out of his fiance and the video of that was made available. Anti domestic violence is a good stance

Kappernick is anti violence as well, but he's being punished for that. Tell me sir, why would you equate one as the same as the other? That's some "both sides" talk. You sounding insane right now...

No, why would you even think that? Did she break a law? Is her reaction to the NFL practising discrimination worse than the NFL practising discrimination?

Is taking a knee worse than shooting unarmed black people?

No, the Ravens could have said he was planned to sign him until his gf's tweet.

 

[filial_piety]

As an Eagles fan who was living in the area in 2009, the bolded points are wrong. The Eagles were not desperate for a decent QB by any means in 2009. McNabb was still the QB, fresh off a season where they made the NFC Championship game. They also had his future replacement Kevin Kolb in place, and a solid 3rd stringer in AJ Feeley, so to say they were angling for a decent Quarterback is well off base.

Vick signed a two year deal (1 year w/team option). First year he made $1.6 million and $5.2 the second year. The Eagles were actually the 2nd team to make an offer; the Bengals made him a similar 2-year deal but it only totaled $2.3 million. NFL minimum at that time was 650-700k, so he was getting above minimum offers in 2009, even with being out of the league for 2 years

I guess if you're looking for something to disagree then you'll find something, anything regardless of how insignificant. Overall it doesn't change the argument that Vick was worth the chance while Kaep has pretty much been deemed that he isn't.

I'm an Eagles fan from way back and remember the time very well, you're patently wrong and lack historical context in how you're explaining this. The Eagles picked up Vick in 2009, McNabb left in 2010. The Eagles were done with Mcnabb by the time Vick got on the team, despite McNabb's success for the franchise, they were ready to move on him and with Andy Reid (he left in 2012). Neither Kevin Kolb or AJ Feely were considered "once in a life time" talents compared to Vick. Neither Kevin Kolb or AJ Feely are in the league BTW. Vick went on to start for the following four seasons that he played for the Eagles Not AJ Feely or Kevin Kolb, so YES they were angling for a competitive high caliber QB...you're totally wrong in that respect.

And I didn't say the "league minimum" I alluded to the league minimum based on his experience, regardless of how numerically accurate it is, ...he went from a 9-year $130 million deal in Atlanta to a 2-year $1.5 with $5 million in his second year. Either way you slice the arithmetic, it's a significant cost/benefit difference. SO the point still stands, they got him at a bargain, and there's a good chance that no team would have signed him if he demanded a similar salary to his old contract.

The only note worthy point is about the Bengals...which I wasn't aware of. Everything else is pretty off.

 

[PS5 Pro]

No, the Ravens could have said he was planned to sign him until his gf's tweet.

The ravens didn't need to sign him, there were other teams that really needed his services. If an NFL team desired to win and needed a player, a Photoshop by a players wife isn't reason enough to say "sorry team, sorry city, but we're not gonna get the best talent available because of a Photoshop"

If they was really serious they would have brought him in, talked to him like a man, his wife would have made an apology via Twitter, that's how adults handle business. So can we cut out the bullshyt versions of reality that suit white supremacist way of thought