Kamala Harris (and Kristen Gillibrand?)-Will Black People Support Her in 2020?

Kamala Harris 2020?

  • Get ready for 4 more years of Trump.

    Votes: 19 70.4%
  • Yes, and the she win.

    Votes: 3 11.1%
  • I dont care. I will be getting my money and/or leaving the US by 2020.

    Votes: 5 18.5%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .

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The Dems are floating her out there for 2020, but I'm suspicious. I think if she runs then it's 4 more years of Trump.

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Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand will lead Democrats to 2020 victory



As Democrats survey the political landscape and focus on rebuilding the party after the disastrous 2016 election, there’s no denying that a change in leadership is desperately needed. One of the primary complaints leveled by Democratic supporters during and after the 2016 election was the lack of diverse faces in leadership positions. A party once led by Barack Obama and his picturesque first family is now scrambling to find candidates that can excite millennials and invigorate the base. It should come as no surprise to anyone well versed in Washington politics that managing to do both is no easy task. Politicians like Obama come along once in a generation.​

Since leaving office, the former president has been relatively quiet, choosing very carefully when to address the news of the day. Obama’s absence has left a void that House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) have been unable to fill and one that has led to a contentious relationship between the libertarian-leaning, Bernie Sanders-supporting wing of the party and its more politically moderate, Hillary Clinton-supporting, establishment wing.​

This fractured relationship was clearly evident in the 2016 presidential campaign. Bad blood between Sanders and Clinton supporters during the presidential primary spilled over into the Democratic convention and hampered Clinton’s ability to unite the base in the general election. While Clinton certainly ran a flawed campaign that suffered from weak messaging and questionable strategic choices, it’s undeniable that soft support from the “Bernie wing” of the party contributed to her historic loss.​


As the Democratic party looks toward the 2020 presidential election, there are questions about who will take over the mantle of spokesperson and future leader of the party. There are questions about whether or not Sanders, an Independent senator from Vermont, will make another run at the Democratic nomination. There are questions about whether the Democratic Party is quickly becoming a regional party. Less than a year into President Trump’s chaotic tenure, there are no clear answers to those questions. What is certain, however, is that the future of the Democratic Party appears to be female.​

Rising stars Sens. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) seem to have the rare ability to unite the party and excite the various factions making up the base. While the senators originate from very different sections of the country, their paths to elected office are extremely similar. Both women began their careers as attorneys prior to landing in the U.S. Senate. Both women have publicly endorsed a single-payer health-care system. Harris recently said, “It’s not only about what’s morally and ethically right. It also just makes sense from a fiscal standpoint or a return on investment for taxpayers.”​

Support from President Obama and fellow women senators like Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) have only increased the national profile of Harris, who served six years as the attorney general of California before winning a seat in Congress in 2016. Often compared to Obama as a result of her mixed-race upbringing, Harris has not been shy about tackling issues relating to income inequality, racial justice and health security.​

Both Harris and Gillibrand hold no punches and have been criticized for exhibiting the same political aspirations as many of their male counterparts. Harris has been no stranger to addressing controversy head-on. She began her first year in Washington by addressing the Women’s March, challenging Attorney General Jeff Sessions in an open Senate hearing and taking President Trump to task for his response to the events in Charlottesville, Va. As the polls closed on election night last November, Harris told a rowdy California crowd that she intends “to fight.” Less than a year into her first term, Harris has stayed true to her words.​

The same can be said for Gillibrand, who has been championing access to health care since her 2006 run for Congress. The junior senator from New York has been outspoken about her support for the public option, her support for a living wage and most recently, her criticism of Trump’s executive order restricting transgender Americans from serving in the U.S. military. Gillibrand’s ability to speak to the concerns of upstate, blue-collar union workers as well as downstate minorities and millennials has Democrats excited about the extent of her political future.​

Unlike the Clinton campaign, which was unable to drum up the excitement of the Obama campaigns, a new era may be coming to the Democratic Party. Harris and Gillibrand are void of many of the flaws that turned away potential Clinton voters. As relative newbies on the national political scene, neither Harris nor Gillibrand has had the time to accumulate the partisan ire that was often attributed to the former first lady and secretary of State. Neither Harris nor Gillibrand suffers from questions about their age or potential fitness for office. Neither Harris nor Gillibrand has to address unfair questions relating to their husband’s indiscretions or political decisions that they were not elected to make.​

Instead, the most important trait that could launch a Harris or Gillibrand candidacy straight into the White House, is their unique ability to inspire. Much like with President Obama’s quick ascent during the George W. Bush years, America is desperately in need of an inspirational figure. America is desperately in need of a movement to believe in. Just as Obama inspired Democrats to get out to the polls and vote for a new path forward, Harris and Gillibrand could breathe air into a party on the verge of flat-lining.​

What could be more opposite from the status quo than intelligent, hard-working and inspirational women running the country? They are qualified candidates not merely because they are smart, accomplished women showing little girls all over the country that one day we will shatter that last glass ceiling, but also because they represent what makes our country great, something our current president doesn’t come close to doing.​

If Democrats have any hope of winning back the White House in 2020, we have to do more than just run a candidate, we must run a movement. We must have a story to tell and an answer to the most important question any candidate for office must answer: Why are you running? Whoever runs for the Democratic nomination in 2020 must be able to tell Americans why Democratic policies will help keep them healthy. Democrats must be able to explain how Democratic policies will help keep them safe, help keep food on their table and help keep a job for them to go to every day. Democrats must have simple answers to complex problems.​

Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand appear equipped to answer these questions. The future of the Democratic Party may be fluid, but if voters put their trust in the hands of either woman, the path to 270 will suddenly become a smoother journey. Even after the heartbreaking loss by Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump last November, the future of the Democratic Party still looks female. Let the race to 2020 begin.​

Michael Starr Hopkins is an attorney and former member of the presidential campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
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Hacks are out here pushing for these two. I'm not convinced. What do people think?
 

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I think running Harris in 2020 is a huge mistake. I don't care how qualified she may be, you're up against the race angle and the sex angle. If last election proves anything, it's Americans don't care about qualifications, they care about tabloid esque talking points. If the Democratic party wants to win points for showing how open minded and progressive they are for running a black woman, they win. But if they want to win an election, they should go a different direction and not because of her qualifications but because of America's values as a whole
 

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I think running Harris in 2020 is a huge mistake. I don't care how qualified she may be, you're up against the race angle and the sex angle. If last election proves anything, it's Americans don't care about qualifications, they care about tabloid esque talking points. If the Democratic party wants to win points for showing how open minded and progressive they are for running a black woman, they win. But if they want to win an election, they should go a different direction and not because of her qualifications but because of America's values as a whole

I agree, this is a mistake. The problem is the Dems think they can recreate Obama. It won't work.
 

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I think running Harris in 2020 is a huge mistake. I don't care how qualified she may be, you're up against the race angle and the sex angle. If last election proves anything, it's Americans don't care about qualifications, they care about tabloid esque talking points. If the Democratic party wants to win points for showing how open minded and progressive they are for running a black woman, they win. But if they want to win an election, they should go a different direction and not because of her qualifications but because of America's values as a whole

Sex and Race were just the backdrop to the fact that Hillary was a horrible candidate. It's been proven the DNC basically cheated in her favor, she didn't campaign in battleground states, and at a point her supporters were saying to Bernie supporters "you either vote for her or it's like voting for Trump". The whole 2016 campaign was trash and it seems like the Dems learned from it.

Trump will be a horrible candidate in 2020 (if he makes it) and is a proven liar who wont be able to lie his way through a second time. All the Dems need to do is make sure they have a set of policies (single payer, marijuana legalization, etc) that can get their base excited and a candidate who hasn't been proven to be on the wrong side of their key demographics (race, gender, and homosexual rights) and they should be good. Bernie a 70 something year old Jewish guy would have likely beaten Trump running on those policies. An attractive black woman should be able to kill it running on those as well.

I would put Kamala with Schiff or one of the Castro brothers and make it a referendum on Trump and either his corruption or his racist policies. Like the DACA Reneg is going to be a huge party shifting issue in 2020 and will likely ensure the Dems Latino votes for a generation.
 

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The question isn't whether black people would support her, it's whether white people would.

Probably not IMO.

Dems are not about getting a shyt ton of white people. They won with Obama cause a lot of Minorities bothered to vote. She just needs a Biden (aka cool white dude) and she would be a lock. fukk if Bernie was willing to take a step back and do that role it would be a landslide victory.

I also think making a play for a Latino might be good enough too. Lots of Latino's are going to angry as shyt come 2020 and their support might be enough as well.
 

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I agree, this is a mistake. The problem is the Dems think they can recreate Obama. It won't work.

And if gillibrand is her running partner, you really wanna lose this election, 2 women in a climate where more and more men feel masculinity is under attack. And it'll be easy to spin gillibrand as Hillary lite, why waste our time, just hand 2020 to orin hatch

Trump's gonna hold on to all those counties he flipped in those rust belt states because Kamala is trying to aggressively bring back the assault weapons ban and they won't be fukking with that.

Further more, her "Smart on Crime" shyt is what the Obama administration tried to do and it just ended up pissing everybody off and blew up in Obama's face, for the most part.

Crazy ass right-wingers are going to bytch because of her being "soft on immigration" her not bringing the death penalty against a cop killer in SF.
Progressives are going to bytch because of her support for asset forfeiture, broken windows policing, arthritic stance on weed, trying to get more cops on the street.
 
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If dems don't run a straight white christian male, they might as well sit 2020 out, and wait for 2024. They also need to shut the hell up about race and gender issues. Stick with economy, healthcare, and homeland security. Obviously lots of white people lied about their votes. They care more about labels and perception than substance. They want to call us the n-word and dindus, but don't want to be called racist. Trump represents white victory to them. Anyone who wants to hold them accountsble for their racist bullshyt is not getting elected. Why would they want to give that up?

Frankly, if black folks keeps expecting the government to be on our side, and for white people to vote for anyone who defends us, there is no hope for us. We need to focus on getting black people elected in local elections. White dems are still white, but at least they won't put people like Sessions in the cabinet, and won't make tweets that could get us nuked. Until their numbers go down, they will control the general elections. We're talking about people with children who voted for a man who encouraged another man to grab women's private parts, yet are appalled by the phrase, black lives matter.
 

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And no it's not going to be four more years of trump.. GOP already talking about they are going to primary him if he makes it to 2020

He ain't making it to 2020
 
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