Kamala's Racial Identity Discussion

[Wiseborn]

People can believe whatever they want.... We been tried to tell folks about her but they got selective amnesia... vote for who you want the choice is yours

This is the issue. People are always telling FBA Men wat to do.

Again If you really believe that Trump will slow down the Black replacement rate that's fine If he wins he's got 4 years to stop this after that maybe a democrat will get in and fly 'em in.

At the end of the day you can't stop the inevitable, Make a Moat, Build a wall if people want to come here they'll get here. Again My ex got her tourist visa SHES NOT PLANNING TO WORK IN COLOMBIA OR MAKE COLOMBIAN PESOS EVER AGAIN

She works at a call center now and she's taking a cruise ship job. After that she's gonna take that Tourist visa and work for a couple of months and will pay off her house in 3 years as opposed to the 20 years that she got her home loan for.

In a way you're right Carnival Crusies is gonna fly her in Miami


If you're really concerned I could ask her the name of the seafood joint in queens where she worked illegally where the whole staff was underpaid immigrants making 9 dollars an hour with no overtime.

Some Colombian said he knows a job where she could make at least 15 bucks an hour because he had a visa too. Right now she's making about 900 a month,

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You don't need to have an Indian name to be Indian. I don't believe Kamala's father had any Indian ancestry. But I just had to correct you on that.

Every single one of Donald Harris's ancestors has a typical European name and was born in Jamaica going all the way back to before 1845, except for one ancestor born in Ireland.

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The exact genealogy of both sides of his family has already been posted, going all the way back to the 1820s. The first Indians arrived in Jamaica in 1845, and no one in Harris's genology has an Indian name or an Indian birthplace listed. Unless the Indians in question were named "Harris", "Brown", "Allen", "Watson", "Moses", and "Fenegan" and lied about their place of birth, then no, she's not Indian.

 

[ORDER_66]

This is the issue. People are always telling FBA Men wat to do.

Again If you really believe that Trump will slow down the Black replacement rate that's fine If he wins he's got 4 years to stop this after that maybe a democrat will get in and fly 'em in.

At the end of the day you can't stop the inevitable, Make a Moat, Build a wall if people want to come here they'll get here. Again My ex got her tourist visa SHES NOT PLANNING TO WORK IN COLOMBIA OR MAKE COLOMBIAN PESOS EVER AGAIN

She works at a call center now and she's taking a cruise ship job. After that she's gonna take that Tourist visa and work for a couple of months and will pay off her house in 3 years as opposed to the 20 years that she got her home loan for.

In a way you're right Carnival Crusies is gonna fly her in Miami


If you're really concerned I could ask her the name of the seafood joint in queens where she worked illegally where the whole staff was underpaid immigrants making 9 dollars an hour with no overtime.

Some Colombian said he knows a job where she could make at least 15 bucks an hour because he had a visa too. Right now she's making about 900 a month,

So your cool with illegal immigrants getting a leg up with resources over the native born black citizens...

Got it

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You do know years ago Donald Harris admitted he came from a family of IRISH slave owners and was proud of it... now they are literally trying to whitewash that history and erase that article...

I said what I said... dude was quiet about his heritage and kamala for years and barely talked to her... its only been this election now things have changed people acting like we didnt see this corrupt bytch that cratered in running for president 4 years ago when she was exposed... If I could find the article it would help. but it is what it is...

This is the article you are talking about, it says NOTHING about him having Indian ancestry or that he was "proud" of his Irish ancestry. The only ancestry that he speaks about is "Jamaican". He spends most of the time talking about his grandmothers who raised him, both of whom were Black women born in Jamaica in the 1880s.

KAMALA HARRIS’ JAMAICAN HERITAGE - UPDATED - 14.01.2019 - Jamaica Global Online

As the presidential buzz continues to grow around the possible candidacy of California Senator Kamala Harris, interest is also growing around her little-known Jamaican heritage.

www.jamaicaglobalonline.com

These are the pictures of his grandmothers from the article, the second of whom is holding Kamala as a baby.

NOTHING in the article speaks of him being "proud" of slaveowner ancestry or having any Indian ancestry at all. You straight up lied.

 

[ORDER_66]

This is the article you are talking about, it says NOTHING about him having Indian ancestry or that he was "proud" of his Irish ancestry. The only ancestry that he speaks about is "Jamaican". He spends most of the time talking about his grandmothers who raised him, both of whom were Black women born in Jamaica in the 1880s.

KAMALA HARRIS’ JAMAICAN HERITAGE - UPDATED - 14.01.2019 - Jamaica Global Online

As the presidential buzz continues to grow around the possible candidacy of California Senator Kamala Harris, interest is also growing around her little-known Jamaican heritage.

www.jamaicaglobalonline.com

These are his grandmothers, the second of whom is holding Kamala as a baby.

NOTHING in the article speaks of him being "proud" of slaveowner ancestry or having any Indian ancestry at all. You straight up lied.

Didn't I LITERALLY JUST SAY they are scrubbing the Internet you fukking clown

 

[Professor Emeritus]

and none of this has anything to do with most of us, in lineage,heritage,ethnicity and culture

Yet where supposed to yield to her “blackness” that has no relevance to us

This is not a call to not support her because of that fact. Just everyone on both sides need to stop bringing it up.

But until this month, most of the criticism of Kamala has been that she doesn't claim her "blackness" enough.



Nearly ALL of the threads about Kamala's race were started by people attacking her, all of whom are following orders from Trump who started claiming that Kamala wasn't Black about a month ago. Kamala's supporters are mostly only bringing it up in response because the claim was that she's lying about it - until then, she was accused by the militants here of NOT talking about her Blackness.

 

[Big Blue]

What? She clearly just wanted to show that she's not entertaining that dumb ass question anymore.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

What? She clearly just wanted to show that she's not entertaining that dumb ass question anymore.

And she shouldn’t

The audacity to think somebody with black ancestry answers some shyt like that with a cac shows a lot of people losing they way

But hey gotta get them clicks and views

 

[the bossman]

Damn, cleanup on Aisle 4

The thing is MAGA types don't care when you present them with the facts as to why they're wrong.

They just call it fake news and double down on the stupidity

 

[Tribal Outkast]

What? She clearly just wanted to show that she's not entertaining that dumb ass question anymore.

We got white people out here questioning folks blackness. What a tmid to be alive

 

[Brolic]

Nearly ALL of the threads about Kamala's race were started by people attacking her, all of whom are following orders from Trump who started claiming that Kamala wasn't Black about a month ago. Kamala's supporters are mostly only bringing it up in response because the claim was that she's lying about it - until then, she was accused by the militants here of NOT talking about her Blackness.

That’s not true at all. People have been questioning her ethnicity/blackness for a while now. You don’t remember the controversy around her claiming that she smoked weed and listened to Tupac? Trump latched onto it recently and it’s become more popular.

I’m still voting for her over trump, but she is not black.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Didn't I LITERALLY JUST SAY they are scrubbing the Internet you fukking clown

How and why would they scrub the entire internet of that?


Post ANYONE with more credibility than you who has noted this "scrubbing" of the internet that magically erased Donald Harris's supposed Indian genealogy. Even if they somehow erased the original source, wouldn't there still be quotes and dead links all over the internet? Wouldn't other people be talking about it both before and after the scrubbing, with proof of the source? Or is @ORDER_66 the only person to notice this drastic campaign to eliminate a talking point that was so obscure that only @ORDER_66 noticed?


Your lies have gone too far.

 

[ORDER_66]

How and why would they scrub the entire internet of that?


Post ANYONE with more credibility than you who has noted this "scrubbing" of the internet that magically erased Donald Harris's supposed Indian genealogy. Even if they somehow erased the original source, wouldn't there still be quotes and dead links all over the internet? Wouldn't other people be talking about it both before and after the scrubbing, with proof of the source? Or is @ORDER_66 the only person to notice this drastic campaign to eliminate a talking point that was so obscure that only @ORDER_66 noticed?


Your lies have gone too far.

My lies.... yeah says the poster who defends the DNC at every turn this is a religion to you. You don't care about the truth you don't wanna do the research you just want to blame others but when it comes out that your wrong you hiding like a bytch. If Donald Harris isn't part INDIAN then he's not ok...

 

[Professor Emeritus]

She played the super long game she went to Howard and pledged AKA

Grew up in a Black neighborhood and was raised by Black radicals, was that part of the "super long game" too?

How Kamala Harris’s Immigrant Parents Found a Home, and Each Other, in a Black Study Group (Published 2020)

Donald Harris and Shyamala Gopalan grew up under British colonial rule on different sides of the planet. They were each drawn to Berkeley, and became part of an intellectual circle that shaped the rest of their lives.

www.nytimes.com

Into the vacuum stepped Ms. Gopalan Harris’s old friends, connections from the Berkeley study group. She was a single, working mother of two, far from her family. Not until her oldest daughter was in high school could she afford a down payment on her own home, something she desperately wanted, Senator Harris wrote in her memoir. A web of support — from day care, to church, to godparents and piano lessons — radiated out from the Afro American Association.


“Those ties became the village that supported her in rearing the children,” said Ms. Dashiell, the sociology professor who was a member of the discussion group. “I don’t mean financially. They surrounded those children.” Mr. LaBrie introduced Ms. Gopalan Harris to his aunt, Regina Shelton, who ran a day care center in West Berkeley. Mrs. Shelton, who had been born in Louisiana, became a pillar of the young family’s life, eventually renting them an apartment upstairs from the day care center.


....But there was always a snack and a hug at Mrs. Shelton’s. If it got too late, the sleepy children would go to bed at her house, or Mrs. Shelton would send her daughters to tuck them in at home. One of Senator Harris’s favorite stories from childhood is of preparing a batch of lemon squares with salt instead of sugar; Mrs. Shelton, her face puckered, said they were delicious.


On Sunday mornings, Mrs. Shelton would take the girls to the 23rd Avenue Church of God, a Black Baptist church. This, Ms. Porter said, was what Shyamala wanted for them. “She raised them to be Black women,” Ms. Porter said. “Shyamala really wanted them to have both.”


Ms. Dashiell said she was certain that some influence of the study group survived in the Harris children. “The thinking within the association was deep,” she said. “You would look at, what are the underlying causes of the problems that we find ourselves in as Black people? And that is something that would have translated, through these families, to Kamala.”


In the years since, Senator Harris has often reflected that her immigrant mother’s chosen family — Black families one generation removed from the segregated South — powerfully shaped her as a politician. When she took the oath of office to become California’s attorney general, and then a U.S. Senator, she asked to lay her hand on Mrs. Shelton’s Bible. “In office and into the fight,” she wrote in an essay last year, “I carry Mrs. Shelton with me always.”

 

[GreatestLaker]

Every single one of Donald Harris's ancestors has a typical European name and was born in Jamaica going all the way back to before 1845, except for one ancestor born in Ireland.

Donald Harris (b. 1930s) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree

Is this your ancestor? Explore genealogy for Donald Harris born 1930s including ancestors + descendants + 11 genealogist comments + questions + more in the free family tree community.

www.wikitree.com

The exact genealogy of both sides of his family has already been posted, going all the way back to the 1820s. The first Indians arrived in Jamaica in 1845, and no one in Harris's genology has an Indian name or an Indian birthplace listed. Unless the Indians in question were named "Harris", "Brown", "Allen", "Watson", "Moses", and "Fenegan" and lied about their place of birth, then no, she's not Indian.

There are literal Indians in the Carbbean today with English names. There are numerous ways it can happen. Adoption, marriage, father not signing the birth paper etc etc.