Kanye West goes off on music producer Bob Ezrin via Twitter

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MBDTF shyts on everything bob and pink floyd have ever done. shut the fukk up and crawl back your cave fukk yakubian shyt fukk bird shyt skinned snow monkey.

the fact that you quote NOI fukkboy history shows you need more education
 

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this is what you said....

"Dude took hip hop from being tough and over-masculine to being something that the average person could relate to in a more honest, genuine way. Dude paved the way for those who dominate rap today...Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Drake. Without Kanye, the genre would not have had the palate for these rappers. No longer did you have to have a "rep" where you sold drugs, spent time in jail and possibly murdered people. No, you could be a college kid or a college dropout struggling to get over your ex who left you for the star football player on campus."



Kanye wasn't the first to do that. What Kendrick is doing isn't because Kanye laid the blueprint. That is giving far to much credit to Kanye...undeservingly.

tons of rappers were doing that before Kanye. ATCQ and DLS were just a few of the oens that were doing it.


Pharoahe Monch
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Immortal Technique
Canibus
Del the Funkee Homosapien
MF DOOM
Common
The Roots
Arrested Development

Hell even Wu-tang members like GZA and INS were spitting real shyt with out all the drug/gangster talk like that.


Y'all dudes really gassin up Kanye's accomplishments severely take away from those artists that actually birthed Kanye himself....

His impact made it more mainstream within hip hop itself. Most of the names you listed were never headline artists. Most of the names you listed never had the ear of pop culture. Some of them barely had the ear of hip hop fans...and yes, I'm including those who don't dig in the crates like some do here...because that's most of the people who listen to rap and hip hop. The mainstream listener.

So, they may have done many things first, but how many people, IN THE MAINSTREAM, associate those things with a Cannibus or Del the Funkee Homosapien? And by the way, who the f#ck is that anyway? My point exactly.

I don't mean to take away what they did and give to Kanye. No, read what I'm saying. I am saying that Kanye took those bits and pieces as a listener and had a much bigger impact in terms of his career and his impact on pop culture in general as an artist.

Not much different than Jay saying "you made it a hot line, I made it a hot song."

Peace
 

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His impact made it more mainstream within hip hop itself. Most of the names you listed were never headline artists. Most of the names you listed never had the ear of pop culture. Some of them barely had the ear of hip hop fans...and yes, I'm including those who don't dig in the crates like some do here...because that's most of the people who listen to rap and hip hop. The mainstream listener.

So, they may have done many things first, but how many people, IN THE MAINSTREAM, associate those things with a Cannibus or Del the Funkee Homosapien? And by the way, who the f#ck is that anyway? My point exactly.

I don't mean to take away what they did and give to Kanye. No, read what I'm saying. I am saying that Kanye took those bits and pieces as a listener and had a much bigger impact in terms of his career and his impact on pop culture in general as an artist.

Not much different than Jay saying "you made it a hot line, I made it a hot song."

Peace
didn't you say that if it wasn't for Kanye then we wouldn't have guys liek J cole or Kendrick, etc? these are hiphop dudes. not mainstream. They grew up listening to hiphop though.



wait...you don't know who Del is??


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I can't beleive I wasted my time arguing with someone that started listening to hiphop in 2001
 

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But the masses don't remember who did it first.

fukk the masses. I'm talking about history. Facts. Ye ain't the first to do anything. Literally nothing.

Nor does he get credit for being first at anything from anyone knowledgeable enough to know better.

Which brings me to my next point....I'm :dead: at you not knowing who Del is. What year did you get into rap?

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You have no idea what you're talking about. :dead:

For one De La introduced skits to mainstream rap. It completely changed the composition of albums, for better or worse.

I like Ye just fine but he is (or was) the step child of the Native Tongue movement. And I'm :dead: at you giving Ye credit for shyt they did, 20 years before him....the first time, when it had never been done before.

If you want to give him credit for bringing that vibe back, cool....but he ain't innovated or originated anything. Dude is bits and pieces of 10-15 different artists.

Fred.




 

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did any of you know that Pink Floyd has sold over 250 million albums world wide?

:ohhh:


Daamn,
 
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Some Cac who of course is going to champion Caclemore and Eminem...


And M.C Hammer:mjlol:



Nothing else to see here


...yeah like it coo to be black until shyt hits the fan and somebody get shyt innocently. Whites and other cultures still from us cause we most creative. You know the saying everybody wanna be black until it's time to be black.
 
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