Kanye West goes off on music producer Bob Ezrin via Twitter

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I'd not put Kanye above Pink Floyd personally but I don't know why anyone would be afraid to do that. They have about 3-4 undeniable classics, a few dope and about 8 mediocre albums. 2 of those classics are to me on another level but that doesn't mean that they have to be to everyone.

7 years ago the biggest dikkriders of old rock (Rolling stone magazine) put Pink Floyd as the 52nd best artists of all time and Dr. Dre at 56. Cats are too insecure about their own taste in music.
 

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I'd not put Kanye above Pink Floyd personally but I don't know why anyone would be afraid to do that. They have about 3-4 undeniable classics, about 10 mediocre albums. 2 of those classics are to me on another level but that doesn't mean that they have to be to everyone.

7 years ago the biggest dikkridera of old rock (Rolling stone magazine) put Pink Floys as the 52nd best artists of all time and Dr. Dre at 56. Cats are too insecure about their own taste in music.

and how many undeniable classics does Ye have?
 

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I don't even fukk with Pink Floyd and Bob Dylan, not my cup of coffee

:sas2:

But putting Kanye in the same breath deserves more than just negs, y'all need to be assassinated

stoned to death, to be specific. i'm all for discrediting whitey and giving a black person more acclaim than they deserve, but these kids go too far.
 

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and how many undeniable classics does Ye have?
2-3, none of them on that other level imo but some would say that Mbdtf is on that other level.

I just hate when cats say that shyt they never listen to is so much better than something. Probably can't name 2 member of the band or more than 3 songs :camby:.


You could trick people into saying that bands that don't exist are better than some arbitrary newer artist.
 
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nah it can't work like that

if that's the case that PF have 3 classics, Ye doesn't have 1. The only one that might be one was only released about 6 years ago anyway.

His albums are dope, but not classics, based on your barometers of course. Or we can give Pink Floyd 6/7 classics, then maybe I can accept that range.
 

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I dont know who this bob guy is but he sounds like a complete culture vulture.... :scust: more artists need to put these people who sit behind these desks on blast... How he an famous producer no one ever heard of, all he is, is probably an investor. :camby:
he's a rock producer apparently.
looking at the names he has produced.
 

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nah it can't work like that

if that's the case that PF have 3 classics, Ye doesn't have 1. The only one that might be one was only released about 6 years ago anyway.

His albums are dope, but not classics, based on your barometers of course. Or we can give Pink Floyd 6/7 classics, then maybe I can accept that range.
No we can't, I'm going by hiphop heads here for Kanye and rock heads for PF. The big difference is addressed in this thread, strict hiphop heads are not commenting on what they think about other genres. If they did they might've given The wall or something 3.5/5 for all I know.
 

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nah it can't work like that

if that's the case that PF have 3 classics, Ye doesn't have 1. The only one that might be one was only released about 6 years ago anyway.

His albums are dope, but not classics, based on your barometers of course. Or we can give Pink Floyd 6/7 classics, then maybe I can accept that range.
shyt, Dark Side excluded, has he even made anything on par with "The Wall"? hell no
 

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shyt, Dark Side excluded, has he even made anything on par with "The Wall"? hell no

here's the issue for me. I'm all for rewarding hip-hop artists on the level as legends of other genres that are more well established e.g. rock, rnb etc.

BUT, at least the pre-requisite to be a great rap artist or to have a classic rap album is to demonstrate lyricism at the highest level, because that is rap's calling card so to speak. Hip-hop artists aren't required to sing, play instruments etc., so the very least is at least enforce great songwriting and lyricism to back it up. Because we all know artists of other genres can't manipulate words the way rap artists have, so they got that advantage in that sense.

Kanye's lyrics are not only mediocre and amateurish especially towards the latter stages of his career, but most of his shyt ain't even written by him.

His production is admittedly excellent, that is his main strength. But even so we can't just rely on production or else just gimme an album of instrumentals. Even so, even his production isn't fully handled by himself.

That's why I can't put Kanye EVER on a Dylan level or PF or Michael Jackson etc., but I'll happily put Ghostface there, or Ice Cube or some of the elite hip-hop talents like Nas etc.
 

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No we can't, I'm going by hiphop heads here for Kanye and rock heads for PF. The big difference is addressed in this thread, strict hiphop heads are not commenting on what they think about other genres. If they did they might've given The wall or something 3.5/5 for all I know.

Read above post
 

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Cmon breh. He said Macklemore mattered more than Kanye. Regardless of your feelings on Kanye. He said Macklemore. Of all the token MCs to throw out there. Macklemore. Dude is one brick away from being on minute 15.

I'd try to take that out of touch devil's head off too.
That devil should br smacked for even mentioning macklemore in the same breath as kanye.
 
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