Kanye West goes off on music producer Bob Ezrin via Twitter

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and why would black people agree with it?

coz Kanye is black? coz Kanye is hip-hop?

I guess Terry Crews has a better discography than The Beatles or Young Thug or idk...
I'm not even a Ye stan. I think he's overrated. But the consensus is he has 3 classics. 4 if u counting MBDTF. What's wrong with someone on a black hip hop forum placing them above PF.
I just don't like all the taint licking by pretentious black folks when it comes to old cac bands. fukk that
 

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who gives a fukk if the old dude worked with some old ass bands? that's kanye's point exactly, he's not fukking hip hop so he needs to stfu and hold his opinions


and if you're shytting on the thought of hip hop albums being better than "classic" rock albums then you're not hip hop either :camby: go post on some hipster music forums, your opinion will be more accepted there
 

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This thread shows me that even "Hip Hop" fans hold it on a lower level than other genres. Like Kanye might not be the best lyrically which is the standard that one brother is trying to hold as the standard in good hip hop. But this is Kanye West we're talking about he's more involved with the whole process of making his music than i would say the greatest lyricists of all time so I think that argument is bugged out especially in this case.
 

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It's hard to not look back at his white publications shouldn't comment on rap tweet as to why he reacted this way.

I think at the very least, non-rap fans shouldn't comment on it. You didn't see Hip-Hop fans critiquing the latest Metallica album.
 

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I'm not even a Ye stan. I think he's overrated. But the consensus is he has 3 classics. 4 if u counting MBDTF. What's wrong with someone on a black hip hop forum placing them above PF.
I just don't like all the taint licking by pretentious black folks when it comes to old cac bands. fukk that

it's like saying Elton Brand is better than Dirk Nowitzki
 

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I'm not even a Ye stan. I think he's overrated. But the consensus is he has 3 classics. 4 if u counting MBDTF. What's wrong with someone on a black hip hop forum placing them above PF.
I just don't like all the taint licking by pretentious black folks when it comes to old cac bands. fukk that

I asked this same forum to vote for 2 albums in contention in CD and LR and The Coli did not vote it a classic. What does that tell you?
 
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u nikkas kill me with the cac caping. This is a hip hop forum. Why is it far fetch or retarded to think Kanye has a better discography than Pink Floyd? Most black people would would agree with that most.
I have no idea who Pink Floyd is

I've seen the name before but that's about it

I probably know more about groups like Green Day, Staind, ColdPlay then them (I also have no idea if those groups are comparable but probably because again I don't know shyt about a Pink Floyd)

and don't care either

Cacs love injecting themselves into our culture and hating on it but doesn't surprise me...
wasnt that long ago they tried to ban hiphop.



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Facts....imagine you are a white producer during the 70's 80's and 90's and the music genre you have been apart of is alive and vibrant:lawd:...then imagine 10 - 20 yrs later that genre you helped cultivate(or steal)is a barren wasteland that has been exploited to the point of no return ...that genre I'm talking about ladies and gentlemen is Rock n Roll. And hip hop literally replaced that shyt:francis:...these old cac producers sit around at dinner parties and private functions and probably just:mjcry:and:demonic:at their own relevance in music today. These dudes HATE Kanye and really anything dominant from rap(notice he didn't mention drake either)...this dude just had enough of :sadbron: about it behind closed doors and needed to clear his crusty cac conscience:sitdown: ...just to make asinine points that make no sense:childplease:(hammer and mackelmore...foh)

Music is weak because old heads :flabbynsick:that don't want to move on...and it's showing in the art form. I mean honestly how many awards can u shove down Taylor swifts throat (not that she'd complain)....but cacs in the industry clearly are politicizing the art form. Hateful fakkits:pacspit:
 

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here's the issue for me. I'm all for rewarding hip-hop artists on the level as legends of other genres that are more well established e.g. rock, rnb etc.

BUT, at least the pre-requisite to be a great rap artist or to have a classic rap album is to demonstrate lyricism at the highest level, because that is rap's calling card so to speak. Hip-hop artists aren't required to sing, play instruments etc., so the very least is at least enforce great songwriting and lyricism to back it up. Because we all know artists of other genres can't manipulate words the way rap artists have, so they got that advantage in that sense.

Kanye's lyrics are not only mediocre and amateurish especially towards the latter stages of his career, but most of his shyt ain't even written by him.

His production is admittedly excellent, that is his main strength. But even so we can't just rely on production or else just gimme an album of instrumentals. Even so, even his production isn't fully handled by himself.

That's why I can't put Kanye EVER on a Dylan level or PF or Michael Jackson etc., but I'll happily put Ghostface there, or Ice Cube or some of the elite hip-hop talents like Nas etc.
This is the shyt I been tryna explain to these fukkin idiots for the longest. Noone seems to care. Came to the conclusion these nikkas don't care about hip hop or music in general. Just the shyt they like. And that's fine. But stay out of these kind of conversations.
 
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