Kanye West Knows You Think He Sounded Nuts on Kimmel

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Nothing egotistical about that. The nikka made more money than you, influenced more people than you, wrote better songs than you, made better beats than you; so what's so wrong with him admitting it.

Like he said "you want me to be great, but you don't want me to say how great I am".
nothing egotistical about saying "I'm a creative GENIUS"? :russ:

I don't care how popular of a musician you are, if you're walking around saying that to people in interviews you're an egotistical douche bag.

You don't see Nas walking around going "I'M SUCH A fukkING GENIUS!!! I'M THE GOD OF THIS RAP shyt!!!!!"

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nothing egotistical about saying "I'm a creative GENIUS"? :russ:

I don't care how popular of a musician you are, if you're walking around saying that to people in interviews you're an egotistical douche bag.

You don't see Nas walking around going "I'M SUCH A fukkING GENIUS!!! I'M THE GOD OF THIS RAP shyt!!!!!"

"Self praise is NO PRAISE" - Nasir the gawd


Thank You!!!......the thing about Kanye is while im not a fan, i do listen to certain music by him. as far as him writing music and considering creative : i dont see him in that light......hell i could give Papoose the title of creative (Law Library 1-7, Alphabetical Slaughter), however i will say his production is creative. for him to make that assertion is very board because we dont know what its pertaining to.............knowing kanye its probably both. a couple of yall dropping statement saying he made more money, what does that gave to do with anything.....damn near every mainstream rapper is making money.
 
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To sum it up: Kanye says he's a genius or a god, people say he's crazy, he's a dumbass, he's an idiot.

But if Kanye says he's a gangster or a pimp or a ****** people say well, Yea that's an accurate depiction of him as a person :yeshrug:
 

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Well written article. While I'm sure the racism Kanye is feeling from those top end designers is legit but I think he has the means to start his own line and build it from the ground up. What I don't understand is he was already aware of the racism of whites at all levels of society why is he so surprised that he was met with racism in the fashion industry? He should use this as an opportunity to build with his own people. I'm willing to bet there are plenty of black artists/designers that feel the same as he does about the industry and would rush to work under his fashion label. He could create an opportunity for himself and those people.
 

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The BBC interview was personal and honest and heartfelt, but it was also frenetic and boastful and rambling at times—perfect fodder for late night TV, in other words. Kimmel mocked it by reproducing the interview with a black kid in place of West. When West took offense, and let loose a series of furious tweets, Kimmel gave the smirk of a comedian who couldn't see the big deal. You know the one; it climbs up only one side of the face, its meaning being: It was just a joke. That Kanye West didn't take it as a joke isn't really a surprise, even if we ignore the fact that he's famously self-serious. Here he'd done an interview explaining how hurtful it is to have proved one's ability and still be seen as inferior by rich white people, and a rich white person responded by infantilizing him.

Was Jimmy Kimmel intentionally trying to humiliate Kanye West by treating him, literally, as a boy, a slur that still holds a lot of power in the black community? Probably not. And some of West's stream-of-conscious speech—complaints about paparazzi talking to him, complaints that Kim Kardashian isn't recognized as a reality star on the Walk of Fame—seem unrelated compared to his broader concerns about race and class as it pertained to Kimmel's sketch. Having paparazzi ask you questions when you're a celebrity is not an oppression at all comparable to police harassment or getting shot near your father's house. But it was direct, serious, and entirely pertinent when West said the following during the Kimmel interview (emphasis mine):

The way the fashion world works—there's no black guy at the end of the runway in Paris, in all honesty. When I'm in Paris and i'm sitting in fashion week for nine years and 'South Park' makes fun of our outfits or people don't understand why we're there—I'm getting called names, stuff you can't even say on TV—and I still can't break that wall down. ... To have a meeting with [every big name fashion designer], and everyone just kinda looks at you like you're crazy, like you don't crash the internet. And you're just like, 'How can you get a shot?' And you try to do it on your own and no real designers will work for a rapper. You just cannot overcome it.

Kimmel may have just thought he was roasting another arrogant celebrity with his spoof; he almost certainly did, in fact. But looking at a black man's assertion he's been ignored because of his race and social class, and then recasting that man as a child for laughs, is always going to be an affront to many people of color in America, people who have long said, "something's wrong here," and been told: no, you're just sensitive. You're crazy. You're acting like a baby.

I believe there are numerous valid reasons to criticize Kanye West, but his rant on Jimmy Kimmel Live is not one of them. You may think he sounded crazy, but it wasn't a kind of crazy that was foreign to me—or, I'd assume, millions of other Americans. It was the crazy that comes from being stared at for daring to look different while eating breakfast with your mom. It was the crazy that comes from never knowing if you deserved to be kicked out of that bar. It was the crazy that comes from being the one person stopped by a cop amidst a sea of white people. "This is racist," you might say to the cop. "Prove it," he might say back. And at that moment, you can't.

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nothing egotistical about saying "I'm a creative GENIUS"? :russ:

I don't care how popular of a musician you are, if you're walking around saying that to people in interviews you're an egotistical douche bag.

You don't see Nas walking around going "I'M SUCH A fukkING GENIUS!!! I'M THE GOD OF THIS RAP shyt!!!!!"

"Self praise is NO PRAISE" - Nasir the gawd

But wait (and I'm a Nas fan to the fullest) doesn't Nas claim to be the God MC? Has he NEVER stated in records his prowess as a leading MC?

So you're saying it's OK to claim you're the greatest, as long as it's on records, but not in interviews? Where do you draw the line between what's fake and what's real then? What's the rapper's true feelings and what's just entertainment? :ohhh:


Well written article. While I'm sure the racism Kanye is feeling from those top end designers is legit but I think he has the means to start his own line and build it from the ground up. What I don't understand is he was already aware of the racism of whites at all levels of society why is he so surprised that he was met with racism in the fashion industry? He should use this as an opportunity to build with his own people. I'm willing to bet there are plenty of black artists/designers that feel the same as he does about the industry and would rush to work under his fashion label. He could create an opportunity for himself and those people.


I feel what you're saying, and for what it's worth, I feel Marc Ecko when he's said the same. And really, I don't know what Ye can do to achieve what he wants, because let's be honest. Ecko, Rocawear, Phat Farm, Sean John, etc...Even more relevant brands like True Religion etc just aren't UP TO PAR with Gucci, Fendi, Louis Vuitton, etc...and never will be. I'm all for making a resonably priced product (especially if you're going to rant about racism), but the key (which I think is understated by Kanye...but completely UNDERSTOOD by the fashion designers he speaks about) is that he wants to COMPETE with these types of brands. You can't do that, being a built from the ground up Fubu type of brand...You just can't, no matter how well your product is or how much money you have. You'll go broke, or it'll take generations and luck before you're even mentioned in the same sentence.


Ye has the money to start it up, but he really doesn't have the means or technical know-how, OR inside connects/respect to compete with these people, which is why getting a co-sign, partner, or investor already on that level is important to him. It's pretty much the only way. It sucks that to get in the gate, you NEED someone who's potentially against you, but it is what it is. That's just how the system works, in too many cases.


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Excellent article too. The most frustrating part of racism or veiled ignorance/racism is exactly what the author described. The same ones who will be quick to denounce Obama, welfare, Hip-Hop, the poor...will always turn right around and mention a black friend, how racism is extinct in 2013 and it's all about classism, and how black on black crime is proliferated, why blacks don't just help themselves, etc. Which is true to a degree, but without looking at the institutionalization, lack of options while embedded in a hostile environment, and the fact that we didn't CHOOSE to be here (USA), let alone in the projects of inner cities, in the conditions we're in...ahhhh fukk it.
 

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But wait (and I'm a Nas fan to the fullest) doesn't Nas claim to be the God MC? Has he NEVER stated in records his prowess as a leading MC?

So you're saying it's OK to claim you're the greatest, as long as it's on records, but not in interviews? Where do you draw the line between what's fake and what's real then? What's the rapper's true feelings and what's just entertainment? :ohhh:
It's different in the context of a rap song, bragging and being full of yourself is a part of hiphop. Rappers often brag and use different alter ego's in their songs. Nas Escobar, Nasty Nas, ask him now? He's the Artist. But his real life persona is different, he's not full of himself and hes humble. You can tell that by his interviews. He doesn't brag about himself. His work speaks for itself.
 

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Kanye West is a goon.
He makes good beats.
But he's a delusional self-absorbed a$$hole. And frankly I don't understand how anyone can argue that he isn't.
 

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I just don't see why some of y'all are so sensitive as to call dude an a$$hole. When I hear "a$$hole", I think of bytches I had suck my dikk & swallow my seeds in the whip, got tired & then didn't care to give a ride home, so I started an argument wit em and made em walk home or call a ride from outside...That's an a$$hole. That's how y'all sound labeling son with that word...like some butthurt broads. :yeshrug:


Yeah, the nikkas done childish, dumb shyt, yes. He's outspoken, yes. But he also has the balls, unlike a lot of label-bytch entertainers, to break the mold & speak his mind (George Bush doesn't care about Black People, Taylor Swift debacle), and his body of work, from the late 90-s to 2013 can be called genius. So like he said, why can he not call himself a genius? Or great? Why does it offend you so much? :what:

Because it's not the norm. Y'all are used to great athletes, public figures, musicians being humble, but humble doesn't get you remembered. Humble doesn't set you apart from the crowd. Who the fukk wrote the rule book that said one (especially a creative ARTIST -- he's not the fukking President for Christ sakes) HAS to be humble, or else, be called an egotistical a$$hole? Y'all sensitive as fukk out there, man. Female tendencies, I swear...I could see if it was Soulja Boy or Chief Keef saying this shyt, but Kanye? Come on b. :beli:

Y'all the same type of fakkits that get upset Mayweather runs his mouth and is so "cocky"...So you go out & catch all of his fights, in hopes he loses so that your assertions can have some sort of basis. (Which they STILL wouldn't, lol) bytch nikka, he's EARNED the right to talk his shyt. How about YOU do better than him at his craft, coming from the circumstances he did, before you try to tell him what the "right" and "wrong" way how to speak and act about his legacy is. You want all these fukkin celebs to be the same...and then scream for originality or a break from the norm...But when someone does it (albeit someone BLACK) :mjpls: it's this big uproar and calamity about the shyt? :comeon:

























































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