Kareem Abdul-Jabbar thinks Tim Duncan had a better career than Kobe

[Stack Money]

Nobody said Shaq I said PHIL nikka you heard exactly what I said plus Shaq was already a made man in the league before Bean came along wtf is you talking about.

Was Kobe the best player on those teams or was Shaq? You nikkas always bring up that one fukking Meme about 2001 what about 2000? 1999? 2002? 2003? 2004?

So you just missed this huh
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1999- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:23)

2003- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 1st in assists (age:27) Find a year Bean can match

2005- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:29)

2007- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:31)

2014- 2nd in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 4th in assists (age:38)




You didn't answer my question How many games did Pop win and how many Playoff trips did he make before Duncan got there?

Muthafukkas in here saying Duncan needed Robinson to win a chip when Dave was getting cooked annualy in the playoffs

You do know that there is more series than the finals bruh ok by your logic Iggy was the most important and best player throughout Golden State run because he got finals MVP,that is what your saying right?

The poll shyt was a joke dikkhead obviously if Bean won which we all knew he wasn't still wasn't gonna change the facts.


Kobe stans are the worst period

But Shaq was the one who played wit him and is the one yall Kobe haters say won the 3 rings, and like I said I'm just usin your bullshyt arguments against you to show how weak they are all that nonsense yall say about Kobe can apply to Duncan. Shaq ain't win a ring before Kobe he wasn't a "made man" he didn't become an all time great until the 3 peat, Kobe was arguably the best player on them teams (his numbers back it up) which is why they had beef wit each other over who's team it was if Shaq was hands down the best player it wouldn't have even got to that point where they had this rift over bein the lead dog wit Laker nation pickin sides.

Kobe was the one hittin the clutch shots outta the 2 cause Shaq couldn't make FTs so 4th Quarter was Kobe's time that era was when he started becomin the "closer", they both needed each other they had 2 completely different games but they complemented each other both could do things the other couldn't. Erbody know Duncan was the top dog back then which is why he got the MVPs but by 09 he wasn't the best on that team Parker took over and then Leonard durin the 5th ring, and the Spurs don't be scorin a ton of points like that anyway so you singlin out a couple select stats don't mean shyt.

Funny you bringin up those numbers yet try to downplay the stats I posted and gettin butthurt over it like every Kobe hater does which just shows you full of shyt, you use different criteria for Kobe but when it comes to Duncan you hold him to a lesser standard in true stan fashion. I answered your question by pointin out the Shaq analogy he didn't win shyt until Kobe came along but it doesn't matter cause they both winners now, you tryna act like Duncan made Pop when by that logic Kobe made Shaq but we all know you wouldn't run wit that same argument for Kobe the way you are for Duncan further showin your hypocrisy.

Exactly there are more series than the finals like the Western Conference playoffs where Kobe put up those numbers I posted, Kobe had the advantage cause there wasn't a guard that could stick him or cancel out his scorin on the other end but Duncan and Shaq canceled each other out (Shaq actually gave your boy Duncan that work most of the time) while in the Finals it was the opposite Shaq had the clear advantage against those East Centers thats the reason he won them Finals MVPs. But idiots like you who didn't watch the Lakers playoff games only look at that and not the greatness Kobe showed in the playoffs to get to that point, if Kobe didn't ball all postseason the way he did they wouldn't have even made the Finals for Shaq to dominate.

No YOU sayin Iggy was more important cause you claim Shaq carried Kobe so by your own logic finals MVP gets all the glory (or does that only applies to Kobe wit your hypocritical ass?), thats why I'm sayin Duncan got carried by Parker/Leonard to show you how stupid your argument is but you so stuck on suckin off Duncan you missin the point and are gettin emotional tryna cape. The poll wasn't a joke and he could have/should have won the only reason he didn't is cause this site is filled wit Kobe hatin ass dumb fukks like you, you Duncan stans are the worst I just saw your posts in multiple other threads catchin feelins ridin Duncan's dikk you so obsessed wit him you got this extreme bias against Kobe cause you can't handle the fact he's better than your idol.

 

[Sccit]

Parker wasn't even starting in 03 man your a idiot why you keep dodging the question? really a double double Dave wasn't flabby that's what you saying.

I don't answer questions you already know the answer too

Whose fault is that he blew up the operation.....Name a team Kobe won with that he was the lone ALL STAR FOR THAT SEASON SINCE YOU CAN'T fukkING READ

LOL AND HERE COME THE DESPERATION LIES .. "PARKER WASNT STARTING IN 03" .. PARKER STARTED ALL 82 GAMES. EVERY1 KNOW THAT IN A DEBATE, THE MOMENT U START PULLIN BS OUT YOUR ASS IS THE MOMENT U LOST. TRY AGAIN.. OR BETTER YET, BOW OUT GRACEFULLY.

 

[Sccit]

But Shaq was the one who played wit him and is the one yall Kobe haters say won the 3 rings, and like I said I'm just usin your bullshyt arguments against you to show how weak they are all that nonsense yall say about Kobe can apply to Duncan. Shaq ain't win a ring before Kobe he wasn't a "made man" he didn't become an all time great until the 3 peat, Kobe was arguably the best player on them teams (his numbers back it up) which is why they had beef wit each other over who's team it was if Shaq was hands down the best player it wouldn't have even got to that point where they had this rift over bein the lead dog wit Laker nation pickin sides.

Kobe was the one hittin the clutch shots outta the 2 cause Shaq couldn't make FTs so 4th Quarter was Kobe's time that era was when he started becomin the "closer", they both needed each other they had 2 completely different games but they complemented each other both could do things the other couldn't. Erbody know Duncan was the top dog back then which is why he got the MVPs but by 09 he wasn't the best on that team Parker took over and then Leonard durin the 5th ring, and the Spurs don't be scorin a ton of points like that anyway so you singlin out a couple select stats don't mean shyt.

Funny you bringin up those numbers yet try to downplay the stats I posted and gettin butthurt over it like every Kobe hater does which just shows you full of shyt, you use different criteria for Kobe but when it comes to Duncan you hold him to a lesser standard in true stan fashion. I answered your question by pointin out the Shaq analogy he didn't win shyt until Kobe came along but it doesn't matter cause they both winners now, you tryna act like Duncan made Pop when by that logic Kobe made Shaq but we all know you wouldn't run wit that same argument for Kobe the way you are for Duncan further showin your hypocrisy.

Exactly there are more series than the finals like the Western Conference playoffs where Kobe put up those numbers I posted, Kobe had the advantage cause there wasn't a guard that could stick him or cancel out his scorin on the other end but Duncan and Shaq canceled each other out (Shaq actually gave your boy Duncan that work most of the time) while in the Finals it was the opposite Shaq had the clear advantage against those East Centers thats the reason he won them Finals MVPs. But idiots like you who didn't watch the Lakers playoff games only look at that and not the greatness Kobe showed in the playoffs to get to that point, if Kobe didn't ball all postseason the way he did they wouldn't have even made the Finals for Shaq to dominate.

No YOU sayin Iggy was more important cause you claim Shaq carried Kobe so by your own logic finals MVP gets all the glory (or does that only applies to Kobe wit your hypocritical ass?), thats why I'm sayin Duncan got carried by Parker/Leonard to show you how stupid your argument is but you so stuck on suckin off Duncan you missin the point and are gettin emotional tryna cape. The poll wasn't a joke and he could have/should have won the only reason he didn't is cause this site is filled wit Kobe hatin ass dumb fukks like you, you Duncan stans are the worst I just saw your posts in multiple other threads catchin feelins ridin Duncan's dikk you so obsessed wit him you got this extreme bias against Kobe cause you can't handle the fact he's better than your idol.

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[DrexlersFade]

But Shaq was the one who played wit him and is the one yall Kobe haters say won the 3 rings, and like I said I'm just usin your bullshyt arguments against you to show how weak they are all that nonsense yall say about Kobe can apply to Duncan. Shaq ain't win a ring before Kobe he wasn't a "made man" he didn't become an all time great until the 3 peat, Kobe was arguably the best player on them teams (his numbers back it up) which is why they had beef wit each other over who's team it was if Shaq was hands down the best player it wouldn't have even got to that point where they had this rift over bein the lead dog wit Laker nation pickin sides.

Kobe was the one hittin the clutch shots outta the 2 cause Shaq couldn't make FTs so 4th Quarter was Kobe's time that era was when he started becomin the "closer", they both needed each other they had 2 completely different games but they complemented each other both could do things the other couldn't. Erbody know Duncan was the top dog back then which is why he got the MVPs but by 09 he wasn't the best on that team Parker took over and then Leonard durin the 5th ring, and the Spurs don't be scorin a ton of points like that anyway so you singlin out a couple select stats don't mean shyt.

Funny you bringin up those numbers yet try to downplay the stats I posted and gettin butthurt over it like every Kobe hater does which just shows you full of shyt, you use different criteria for Kobe but when it comes to Duncan you hold him to a lesser standard in true stan fashion. I answered your question by pointin out the Shaq analogy he didn't win shyt until Kobe came along but it doesn't matter cause they both winners now, you tryna act like Duncan made Pop when by that logic Kobe made Shaq but we all know you wouldn't run wit that same argument for Kobe the way you are for Duncan further showin your hypocrisy.

Exactly there are more series than the finals like the Western Conference playoffs where Kobe put up those numbers I posted, Kobe had the advantage cause there wasn't a guard that could stick him or cancel out his scorin on the other end but Duncan and Shaq canceled each other out (Shaq actually gave your boy Duncan that work most of the time) while in the Finals it was the opposite Shaq had the clear advantage against those East Centers thats the reason he won them Finals MVPs. But idiots like you who didn't watch the Lakers playoff games only look at that and not the greatness Kobe showed in the playoffs to get to that point, if Kobe didn't ball all postseason the way he did they wouldn't have even made the Finals for Shaq to dominate.

No YOU sayin Iggy was more important cause you claim Shaq carried Kobe so by your own logic finals MVP gets all the glory (or does that only applies to Kobe wit your hypocritical ass?), thats why I'm sayin Duncan got carried by Parker/Leonard to show you how stupid your argument is but you so stuck on suckin off Duncan you missin the point and are gettin emotional tryna cape. The poll wasn't a joke and he could have/should have won the only reason he didn't is cause this site is filled wit Kobe hatin ass dumb fukks like you, you Duncan stans are the worst I just saw your posts in multiple other threads catchin feelins ridin Duncan's dikk you so obsessed wit him you got this extreme bias against Kobe cause you can't handle the fact he's better than your idol.

You got some nerve saying somebody dikk down someone throat you checking my other posts

We picking at straws bruh there really is no one answer they both got accolades over each other. It's not that nikkas that fukk with Timmy despise Kobe Iv'e said on plenty of occasions it's 1a and 1b for the post Jordan era.

It's you nikkas who act like Kobe on this higher than mount rushmore pedistool that he can't be compared and he undisputed when in your hearts you know it's debateable that's why ya'll go so heavy from whatever angle you choose.

We can go back and forth about this and that but Bean played with another top ten great and number 2 in his prime.No matter about who played with who at the end of the day,they both had excellent role players.

Career accolades it's not close they both dominated they respected fields. Kobe never gave Tim shyt he had to deal with Shaq and Bean had to deal with Bruce Bowen.

Salute to Bean i'm done both these nikkas at the end I'm not debating this anymore.


But you pussies know in your heart who "The Don" is when it comes to winning and that all that matters best in professional sports history but you already know that

So I guess you just missed this post since you wanna dikkride my other ones don't sit up here and front like that shyt was even a question who was the best Kobe use to hit clutch shots in the 4th but so did Horry Fish and Fox the whole clan BShaw game 7 against Portland There was no debate Shaq was big brother and Kobe was little bro stop it. How the fukk Kobe make Shaq when Shaq made it top the finals before Kobe showed up are you fukking serious.How many playoff trips did pop have before Duncan came it's a simple fukking question answer it and even when Kobe came nikkas still lost for four years....Until you know who showed up

You are truly a dumb muthafukka I never said the poll was a joke I said the joke was you creating alternate profiles too catch up. No nikkas don't dislike Bean nikkas hate you bytch nikkas and your told that constantly and act like you don't know.
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Shut up nikkah you the worst type

Get the fukk outta here nikka came in the thread to lick Beans ass after a 1000 shots

 

[DrexlersFade]

LOL AND HERE COME THE DESPERATION LIES .. "PARKER WASNT STARTING IN 03" .. PARKER STARTED ALL 82 GAMES. EVERY1 KNOW THAT IN A DEBATE, THE MOMENT U START PULLIN BS OUT YOUR ASS IS THE MOMENT U LOST. TRY AGAIN.. OR BETTER YET, BOW OUT GRACEFULLY.

answer the question though name a team Kobe won when Parker started but pop was trusting Speedy alot late in those games. Butr he wasn't a All Star and this great player at the time he has become now.
1999- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:23)

2003- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 1st in assists (age:27) Find a year Bean can match

2005- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:29)

2007- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:31)

2014- 2nd in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 4th in assists (age:38)

 

[JohnD]

But Shaq was the one who played wit him and is the one yall Kobe haters say won the 3 rings, and like I said I'm just usin your bullshyt arguments against you to show how weak they are all that nonsense yall say about Kobe can apply to Duncan. Shaq ain't win a ring before Kobe he wasn't a "made man" he didn't become an all time great until the 3 peat, Kobe was arguably the best player on them teams (his numbers back it up) which is why they had beef wit each other over who's team it was if Shaq was hands down the best player it wouldn't have even got to that point where they had this rift over bein the lead dog wit Laker nation pickin sides.

Kobe was the one hittin the clutch shots outta the 2 cause Shaq couldn't make FTs so 4th Quarter was Kobe's time that era was when he started becomin the "closer", they both needed each other they had 2 completely different games but they complemented each other both could do things the other couldn't. Erbody know Duncan was the top dog back then which is why he got the MVPs but by 09 he wasn't the best on that team Parker took over and then Leonard durin the 5th ring, and the Spurs don't be scorin a ton of points like that anyway so you singlin out a couple select stats don't mean shyt.

Funny you bringin up those numbers yet try to downplay the stats I posted and gettin butthurt over it like every Kobe hater does which just shows you full of shyt, you use different criteria for Kobe but when it comes to Duncan you hold him to a lesser standard in true stan fashion. I answered your question by pointin out the Shaq analogy he didn't win shyt until Kobe came along but it doesn't matter cause they both winners now, you tryna act like Duncan made Pop when by that logic Kobe made Shaq but we all know you wouldn't run wit that same argument for Kobe the way you are for Duncan further showin your hypocrisy.

Exactly there are more series than the finals like the Western Conference playoffs where Kobe put up those numbers I posted, Kobe had the advantage cause there wasn't a guard that could stick him or cancel out his scorin on the other end but Duncan and Shaq canceled each other out (Shaq actually gave your boy Duncan that work most of the time) while in the Finals it was the opposite Shaq had the clear advantage against those East Centers thats the reason he won them Finals MVPs. But idiots like you who didn't watch the Lakers playoff games only look at that and not the greatness Kobe showed in the playoffs to get to that point, if Kobe didn't ball all postseason the way he did they wouldn't have even made the Finals for Shaq to dominate.

No YOU sayin Iggy was more important cause you claim Shaq carried Kobe so by your own logic finals MVP gets all the glory (or does that only applies to Kobe wit your hypocritical ass?), thats why I'm sayin Duncan got carried by Parker/Leonard to show you how stupid your argument is but you so stuck on suckin off Duncan you missin the point and are gettin emotional tryna cape. The poll wasn't a joke and he could have/should have won the only reason he didn't is cause this site is filled wit Kobe hatin ass dumb fukks like you, you Duncan stans are the worst I just saw your posts in multiple other threads catchin feelins ridin Duncan's dikk you so obsessed wit him you got this extreme bias against Kobe cause you can't handle the fact he's better than your idol.

Shaq won mvp in 2000. Let that sink in. He won an mvp during the 3peat. If kobe was just as important during the 3peat, he would have won one too. hell even an finals mvp would have backed up your arguement but he didnt get any of those. Shaq took them all. So youre saying for 3 straight years, shaq got the easy match up in the finals? bullsh**. He was just the more important piece.

The game is deeper than you think. while Shaq was getting all of the opponents defensive focus, kobe was able to get the numbers he got. I remember shaq constantly getting doubled and tripled.
I wouldnt say shaq was a made man but he was obviously the main threat on that lakers 3peat. The riff was more about their level of commitment to the game. Shaq ballooned in the offseason. Also kobe being more popular and shaq feeling slighted by that.

no one denies kobes great offensive skills, one of the best ever at putting the ball in the basket but when it comes to Duncan, its more than just points. He dominated teams defensively. Holds the record for most blocks in playoff history. Also most blocks in a finals series. Killed it on the boards. 3rd all time behind russell and wilt in the playoffs. Any Gm would take a great big man over a great 2 guard. They just add more to the game.

at you comparing a coach to a great player. pop aint playing in those games. You cant compare pop to shaq. you should compare pop to phil. and phils resume already had 6 rings when he came in to coach those lakers. Pops first game coaching was in 1997. They went straight to the lottery. not all his fault but he was a rookie head coach. Didnt even coach a full season before duncan came on board. There was no system. Duncan was the system. It was basically surround duncan with shooters and give him the ball on the block. simple stuff. when duncan was passed his prime is when they started to push the ball more. thats when pop put in a system. Having a smart all around player like Duncan allowed him to develop as a coach. The first game you watched of the spurs was probably in 2014.

The facts are facts. Take all of the bs out and we are left with this:

Championships
Duncan 5 = Kobe 5

Mvps
Duncan 2 >>> Kobe 1

Finals Mvps
Duncan 3 >>> Kobe 2

All Nba
Duncan 15 = Kobe 15

All Nba Defensive team
Duncan 15 >>> Kobe 12

those are all the categories that matter. I know you kobe stans want to add scoring titles and allstar games so bad but none of that matters

 

[Sccit]

answer the question though name a team Kobe won when Parker started but pop was trusting Speedy alot late in those games. Butr he wasn't a All Star and this great player at the time he has become now.
1999- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:23)

2003- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 1st in assists (age:27) Find a year Bean can match

2005- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:29)

2007- 1st in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 3rd in assists (age:31)

2014- 2nd in points, 1st in Rebounds, 1st in blocks, 4th in assists (age:38)

LOOK AT THIS FAGOT, HE SAID PARKER WASNT STARTING IN 2003, THEN WHEN I PROVE HIM WRONG, HE SPINS IT TO SOMETHIN ELSE W THE QUICKNESS. YOU ARE THE EPITOME OF A SHIIT DEBATER. FALL BACK.

 

[Sccit]

Shaq won mvp in 2000. Let that sink in. He won an mvp during the 3peat. If kobe was just as important during the 3peat, he would have won one too. hell even an finals mvp would have backed up your arguement but he didnt get any of those. Shaq took them all. So youre saying for 3 straight years, shaq got the easy match up in the finals? bullsh**. He was just the more important piece.

The game is deeper than you think. while Shaq was getting all of the opponents defensive focus, kobe was able to get the numbers he got. I remember shaq constantly getting doubled and tripled.
I wouldnt say shaq was a made man but he was obviously the main threat on that lakers 3peat. The riff was more about their level of commitment to the game. Shaq ballooned in the offseason. Also kobe being more popular and shaq feeling slighted by that.

no one denies kobes great offensive skills, one of the best ever at putting the ball in the basket but when it comes to Duncan, its more than just points. He dominated teams defensively. Holds the record for most blocks in playoff history. Also most blocks in a finals series. Killed it on the boards. 3rd all time behind russell and wilt in the playoffs. Any Gm would take a great big man over a great 2 guard. They just add more to the game.

at you comparing a coach to a great player. pop aint playing in those games. You cant compare pop to shaq. you should compare pop to phil. and phils resume already had 6 rings when he came in to coach those lakers. Pops first game coaching was in 1997. They went straight to the lottery. not all his fault but he was a rookie head coach. Didnt even coach a full season before duncan came on board. There was no system. Duncan was the system. It was basically surround duncan with shooters and give him the ball on the block. simple stuff. when duncan was passed his prime is when they started to push the ball more. thats when pop put in a system. Having a smart all around player like Duncan allowed him to develop as a coach. The first game you watched of the spurs was probably in 2014.

The facts are facts. Take all of the bs out and we are left with this:

Championships
Duncan 5 = Kobe 5

Mvps
Duncan 2 >>> Kobe 1

Finals Mvps
Duncan 3 >>> Kobe 2

All Nba
Duncan 15 = Kobe 15

All Nba Defensive team
Duncan 15 >>> Kobe 12

those are all the categories that matter. I know you kobe stans want to add scoring titles and allstar games so bad but none of that matters

SCORING RECORDS DONT COUNT, BUT MVP AWARDS (WHICH ARE WIDELY KNOWN AE POPULARITY CONTESTS) DO....FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS. ONE IS A FACTUAL STATISTIC AND ONE IS AN OPINIONATED AWARD. BUT IN THE MIND OF DUNCAN GROUPIES, THE OPINIONATED AWARD HOLDS MORE MERIT THAN A FACTUAL STATISTIC....CLOWNS

 

[malbaker86]

SCORING RECORDS DONT COUNT, BUT MVP AWARDS (WHICH ARE WIDELY KNOWN AE POPULARITY CONTESTS) DO....FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS. ONE IS A FACTUAL STATISTIC AND ONE IS AN OPINIONATED AWARD. BUT IN THE MIND OF DUNCAN GROUPIES, THE OPINIONATED AWARD HOLDS MORE MERIT THAN A FACTUAL STATISTIC....CLOWNS

You mentioned all star mvp's in one of your post tho

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

WHEN U AN ALLSTAR ONCE U AN ALLSTAR FOR LIFE

 

[Suleiman Bey]

Duncan had the better career simply because he's leaving on his own terms. Injuries have decimated Kobe. Duncan also benefits from the fact the league is more perimeter oriented meaning he doesn't have to face any great post players, because there aren't any.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

no he didn't.

Shaq wouldn't have won a single ring in la without Kobe.


So who rode who? It's up to you provide the evidences

Kobe 2000 finals 15.6 points per game on 36% shooting while going 12 out of 47 over the last 2 games of the series. Shaq averaged 38.6 points and 16.7 rebounds per game on 63% shooting. He averaged more rebounds than Kobe did points. Take your L

 

[Sccit]

You mentioned all star mvp's in one of your post tho

YES BUT I DONT PUT IT ABOVE ACCOLADES ALA STATISTICAL RECORDS, SCORING CHAMP, ETC .. THOSE ARE A TRUE INDICATION OF WHAT U HAVE DONE, NOT SOME BS AWARD THAT STEVE NASH WON MORE TIMES THAN KOBE

 

[Sccit]

Kobe 2000 finals 15.6 points per game on 36% shooting while going 12 out of 47 over the last 2 games of the series. Shaq averaged 38.6 points and 16.7 rebounds per game on 63% shooting. He averaged more rebounds than Kobe did points. Take your L

DO U KNOW WHY KOBES AVG IS SO LOW? BECAUSE HE SPRAINED HIS ANKLE IN ONE OF THE GAMES AND BARELY PLAYED, DRASTICALLY LOWERING HIS OVERALL AVERAGE. ITS NOT A PROPER INDICATION OF WHAT TYPA PLAYER HE WAS. DO US ALL A FAVOR N GO BACK N REWATCH THEM PLAYOFFS/FINALS BEFORE U USE A SKEWED STATISTIC AS EVIDENCE FOR YOUR BASELESS ARGUMENT .. BTW, SHAQ WAS THE BETTER PLAYER IN 00 EITHER WAY. ITS 2001 WHEN THINGS EVENED OUT N SHAQ CALLED KOBE THE BEST IN THE WORLD.

 

[VBM]

DO U KNOW WHY KOBES AVG IS SO LOW? BECAUSE HE SPRAINED HIS ANKLE IN ONE OF THE GAMES AND BARELY PLAYED, DRASTICALLY LOWERING HIS OVERALL AVERAGE.

And Shaq still brought a title to LA that year.

Meanwhile that same year, Duncan tears up his knee prior to the playoffs, and the Spurs get knocked out in the first round.