Karina Vetrano Murder Trial Ends In Hung Jury And Mistrial

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I cant find anything via google & youtube discussing her dad in depth :patrice:
 

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I wrote up a little profile before they caught the suspect, and it was fairly accurate, I believe he is guilty, but the case just became a mess.

Most people don't understand what motivates a sexually related killing, and the kind of suspects that commit it, so they form wild theories about the Mob and incest, or whatever.

The Dad didn't find the body. That isn't accurate.
Why do you think there was a mistrial with a confession and DNA evidence?
 

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Why do you think there was a mistrial with a confession and DNA evidence?

@re'up is far more knowledgeable about legal matters than i am, but from what i read it seems like the police might've fukked up collecting evidence and during questioning/getting the confession. if the cops don't follow standards and procedures and whatnot, then it could tank a conviction.

that could be why. :yeshrug:
 

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"Transient/homeless is real possibility).....Look for someone in the neighborhood, likely alcohol abuser, maybe living with parents, maybe recent upset in their lives, losing a job, a relationship, etc. Look for someone who maybe knew the victim, a slightly older male, she may have had conversations or slight interactions with. The circumstances are wrong for planned out crime, this is someone who saw her jogging, maybe even tried to approach, and things spiraled from there. He raped her, and killed her to cover the crime."

I posted this in the Locker Room thread months back, I'm pretty interested in criminal pathology since a kid, I've read a lot, this is protypical profile for a killing like this. Mob hits, family violence, none of those theories work, it's absurd. I am not saying it's not maybe possible the kid confessed to a crime he didn't commit, as that happens, but DNA plus confession, plus he fits the profile, the only thing is he's black, and not white, which is not unheard of either, just not as common.

Low education/low intelligence (per some comments in another thread, that he has a condition)
lives at home
unemployed
*struggles with women and relationships (not entirely confirmed)

I would be surprised if he wasn't drinking on the day of the killing, and for months leading up to it.



If one does the research, this is how most of these kinds of crimes are, women raped, beaten brutally, is usually someone like this. Not mafia hits.
 

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I wrote up a little profile before they caught the suspect, and it was fairly accurate, I believe he is guilty, but the case just became a mess.

Most people don't understand what motivates a sexually related killing, and the kind of suspects that commit it, so they form wild theories about the Mob and incest, or whatever.

The Dad didn't find the body. That isn't accurate.

If you know the history of that area you know what time it is... Breh man didn’t do it...

Pops got something to do with her death.. shyt was too convenient
 

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The Dad hit her so hard he knocked many of her teeth out? And sexually abused his own daughter, in a remote marsh, while she was jogging? For being promiscuous? For violating Mob protocol? None of that works, even a little bit.
 

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"Transient/homeless is real possibility).....Look for someone in the neighborhood, likely alcohol abuser, maybe living with parents, maybe recent upset in their lives, losing a job, a relationship, etc. Look for someone who maybe knew the victim, a slightly older male, she may have had conversations or slight interactions with. The circumstances are wrong for planned out crime, this is someone who saw her jogging, maybe even tried to approach, and things spiraled from there. He raped her, and killed her to cover the crime."

I posted this in the Locker Room thread months back, I'm pretty interested in criminal pathology since a kid, I've read a lot, this is protypical profile for a killing like this. Mob hits, family violence, none of those theories work, it's absurd. I am not saying it's not maybe possible the kid confessed to a crime he didn't commit, as that happens, but DNA plus confession, plus he fits the profile, the only thing is he's black, and not white, which is not unheard of either, just not as common.

Low education/low intelligence (per some comments in another thread, that he has a condition)
lives at home
unemployed
*struggles with women and relationships (not entirely confirmed)

I would be surprised if he wasn't drinking on the day of the killing, and for months leading up to it.



If one does the research, this is how most of these kinds of crimes are, women raped, beaten brutally, is usually someone like this. Not mafia hits.

Bro I live in that area right across the high.. I’m not saying what you typed is bs but in this instance it’s bs lol

The kid don’t live around there.. that area has a history of racist Italian chumps.. google yusef Hawkins
 

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I don't discount your experiences, but I study, (not professionally) criminal pathology, this isn't a mob or gang related killing, there is nothing at all to suggest that. but the area itself. The MO is entirely wrong for it.

The kid didn't live far, that marsh area was like a hangout/smoke spot for kids/ whomever. He was hanging in the area.

I can't say 100% the kid did it, but based on all the available evidence, it makes by far the most sense.
 

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The Dad hit her so hard he knocked many of her teeth out? And sexually abused his own daughter, in a remote marsh, while she was jogging? For being promiscuous? For violating Mob protocol? None of that works, even a little bit.

Again the dad lead investigators right to her body befor hand cops couldn’t even find where she was
 

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Again the dad lead investigators right to her body befor hand cops couldn’t even find where she was

Just as a purely non personal debate, link me to where that is said, and also bear in mind, her Dad knew her jogging path, to a degree.

And lay out the theory you have, as to why a Dad, with no history of sexual violence or abuse, (that I know of) brutally beats and rapes his own daughter in a marsh. And then I will present mine.
 

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I don't discount your experiences, but I study, (not professionally) criminal pathology, this isn't a mob or gang related killing, there is nothing at all to suggest that. but the area itself. The MO is entirely wrong for it.

The kid didn't live far, that marsh area was like a hangout/smoke spot for kids/ whomever. He was hanging in the area.

I can't say 100% the kid did it, but based on all the available evidence, it makes by far the most sense.
Why do you think there was a mistrial?
 

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The Dad hit her so hard he knocked many of her teeth out? And sexually abused his own daughter, in a remote marsh, while she was jogging? For being promiscuous? For violating Mob protocol? None of that works, even a little bit.
But random kid with a learning disability and no criminal record kills her and then some random hobo decides to get his necrophilia on does make sense to you ?

Because by not charging the kid with sexual assault that's what the NYPD wants a jury to believe...
 

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But random kid with a learning disability and no criminal record kills her and then some random hobo decides to get his necrophilia on does make sense to you ?

Because by not charging the kid with sexual assault that's what the NYPD wants a jury to believe...

I would encourage you to read up on sexually motivated killings and rapes, and you will see that he fits near to a tee the general kind of suspect. I have read pretty extensively on the case, and I see very little to make me believe he isn't the killer.

These kinds of crimes are often random, or near random. They escalate from sexual assault to murder, usually after the fact, to cover the crime, or to subdue the victim. Suspects are often below average intelligence, suffer from low self esteem, depression, not stable or employed, live at home, alcohol issues. Most well educated, or well to do people, well adjusted blue collar people even, aren't beating people to death or strangling women, after sexually abusing them. I get that you are passionate on this subject, and I don't want to offend, just offering my thoughts.
 

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I would encourage you to read up on sexually motivated killings and rapes, and you will see that he fits near to a tee the general kind of suspect. I have read pretty extensively on the case, and I see very little to make me believe he isn't the killer.

These kinds of crimes are often random, or near random. They escalate from sexual assault to murder, usually after the fact, to cover the crime, or to subdue the victim. Suspects are often below average intelligence, suffer from low self esteem, depression, not stable or employed, live at home, alcohol issues. Most well educated, or well to do people, well adjusted blue collar people even, aren't beating people to death or strangling women, after sexually abusing them. I get that you are passionate on this subject, and I don't want to offend, just offering my thoughts.
And I would encourage you to read up on this case and more specifically the charges brought up against this young man...

Once again, he was NOT CHARGED WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT because they have no evidence whatsoever to pin the sexual assault on him...

He was only on trial for murder...

So I am going to ask once again...

Do you believe the NYPDs theory that a random kid with a learning disability and no criminal record killed her and then some other random decided to get his necrophilia on ?

If you believe that nonsense I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in...
 

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And I would encourage you to read up on this case and more specifically the charges brought up against this young man...

Once again, he was NOT CHARGED WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT because they have no evidence whatsoever to pin the sexual assault on him...

He was only on trial for murder...

So I am going to ask once again...

Do you believe the NYPDs theory that a random kid with a learning disability and no criminal record killed her and then some other random decided to get his necrophilia on ?

If you believe that nonsense I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in...

I think the prosecutors decided not to charge the sexual assault for the jury, I am not sure why, but she was assaulted, according to everything I have seen. Where is the random and necrophilia thing coming from? The kid fits the profile of a disorganized offender, near exactly.
 
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