KAWHI WENT HEAD 2 HEAD WITH BRON
AND WON FINALS MVP.
WAS THAT NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS?
I meannnnnnn if Nick Anderson beat MJ and Rip Hamilton beat Kobe "head to head" then that would follow. So sure thing buddy
Kawaii is already more clutch than....
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I meannnnnnn if Nick Anderson beat MJ and Rip Hamilton beat Kobe "head to head" then that would follow. So sure thing buddy
But he played well in the playoffs last year. He's not leading SA nowhere playing 1-on-5, especially not in the playoffs
That's absolute bullshyt for Kawhi to be blamed for what happens in the playoffs if he ball out and his teammates dont step up.
nikkas rooting for breh to fail so they can hate on the nikka smh
Kind of bytchass shyt is this?
bytchass shyt would be the implication that he's the same caliber as Lebron but when Durant outplayed him in every fashion while being on a 'worse' team last season, we can't call it as it is. It's not Kawhi Leonard in wins and San Antonio Spurs when they lose if he's a superstar
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But he played well in the playoffs last year. He's not leading SA nowhere playing 1-on-5, especially not in the playoffs
That's absolute bullshyt for Kawhi to be blamed for what happens in the playoffs if he ball out and his teammates dont step up.
nikkas rooting for breh to fail so they can hate on the nikka smh
Kind of bytchass shyt is this?
I am not rooting for him to fail.........I dont have much skin in his success or failure.
BUT
Secondly what kind of weird ass logic is that anyway......people root for athletes to fail all of the fukking time...Thats part of being a sports fan. You gain joy or pain through the success or failure of your opponents.
As for the Spurs playing 1vs5.....you can cut that shyt out right now. The Spurs have been winning games without Kawhi, The Spurs have been a regular season machine for years with the guy that has been seen as the best coach in the game.
The idea that somehow they are this minnow in a sea of blue whales is preposterous. Will Aldridge have to step up his play if they want to go deep? Sure.
But we can say that for any set of teams in the NBA. Harden's teammates will have to step up theirs. The Clippers have to step up theirs. Every team has to play better than they do in the regular season for playoff success because you have to win 4 out of 7.
THIS shyt AINT NEW
Why would he get to be held to different standards?.....
Can someone give me a rundown of Kawhi's greatest clutch moments? I mean, he's performed well down the stretch in a few regular season games recently.
Is that really all this thread is running on?
Quick look....Kawhi is 99-234 on clutch shots (last 5 minutes, game within 5 points) in his career. That's 41.7%
Kawhi is 20-59 career on clutch shots in the final minute (game within 5 points). That's 33.8%
Kawhi is only 1-7 on clutch shots in the final minute of playoff games. That's 14%. That ONE make was with the Spurs up five against the Clips with 57 seconds left, just about as borderline clutch as it gets.
Kawhi is doing slightly better than his career average this season...in clutch situations in last 5 minutes, he's shooting 36-83, 43.4%.
But final minute, we're talking 6-23, just 26.1%
Game-winners? Kawhi is only 5-16 on those in his career. 0-0 in the playoffs. He was only 1-5 so far this season on game-winners before that make against Indiana moved him up to a more respectable 2-6.
THAT is all it takes to get threads started with idiot titles like this one?
Name Kawhi's greatest playoffs series win since he surpassed 12ppg for the season.
How the hell you calling that 1-on-5 when Aldridge's back-to-back 40 point games are the only thing that got Spurs any wins in that series?
TP and Green were serviceable on offense too, TP just wasn't shyt on defense. But neither was Roberson, so it wasn't like the Spurs needed to defend more than one guard at a time anyway.
Is that really all this thread is running on?
Quick look....Kawhi is 99-234 on clutch shots (last 5 minutes, game within 5 points) in his career. That's 41.7%
Kawhi is 20-59 career on clutch shots in the final minute (game within 5 points). That's 33.8%
Kawhi is only 1-7 on clutch shots in the final minute of playoff games. That's 14%. That ONE make was with the Spurs up five against the Clips with 57 seconds left, just about as borderline clutch as it gets.
Kawhi is doing slightly better than his career average this season...in clutch situations in last 5 minutes, he's shooting 36-83, 43.4%.
But final minute, we're talking 6-23, just 26.1%
Game-winners? Kawhi is only 5-16 on those in his career. 0-0 in the playoffs. He was only 1-5 so far this season on game-winners before that make against Indiana moved him up to a more respectable 2-6.
THAT is all it takes to get threads started with idiot titles like this one?
Except he's made 3 WCF appearances already
And if y'all wanna bring "superstar level slander" we'll bring superstar levellike the Bron camp do
Name Kawhi's greatest playoffs series win since he surpassed 12ppg for the season.
But he played well in the playoffs last year. He's not leading SA nowhere playing 1-on-5, especially not in the playoffs
That's absolute bullshyt for Kawhi to be blamed for what happens in the playoffs if he ball out and his teammates dont step up.
nikkas rooting for breh to fail so they can hate on the nikka smh
Kind of bytchass shyt is this?
How the hell you calling that 1-on-5 when Aldridge's back-to-back 40 point games are the only thing that got Spurs any wins in that series?
TP and Green were serviceable on offense too, TP just wasn't shyt on defense. But neither was Roberson, so it wasn't like the Spurs needed to defend more than one guard at a time anyway.
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Game 6 in OKC in 2014Can someone give me a rundown of Kawhi's greatest clutch moments? I mean, he's performed well down the stretch in a few regular season games recently.
Is that really all this thread is running on?
Quick look....Kawhi is 99-234 on clutch shots (last 5 minutes, game within 5 points) in his career. That's 41.7%
Kawhi is 20-59 career on clutch shots in the final minute (game within 5 points). That's 33.8%
Kawhi is only 1-7 on clutch shots in the final minute of playoff games. That's 14%. That ONE make was with the Spurs up five against the Clips with 57 seconds left, just about as borderline clutch as it gets.
Kawhi is doing slightly better than his career average this season...in clutch situations in last 5 minutes, he's shooting 36-83, 43.4%.
But final minute, we're talking 6-23, just 26.1%
Game-winners? Kawhi is only 5-16 on those in his career. 0-0 in the playoffs. He was only 1-5 so far this season on game-winners before that make against Indiana moved him up to a more respectable 2-6.
THAT is all it takes to get threads started with idiot titles like this one?
Name Kawhi's greatest playoffs series win since he surpassed 12ppg for the season.
How the hell you calling that 1-on-5 when Aldridge's back-to-back 40 point games are the only thing that got Spurs any wins in that series?
TP and Green were serviceable on offense too, TP just wasn't shyt on defense. But neither was Roberson, so it wasn't like the Spurs needed to defend more than one guard at a time anyway.
Sent SA to the Finals with that block
He destroyed Portland in the 2nd round of the 2014 playoffs as well as the Finals
And yes SA can't expect to win a title the way they've been playing recently. Kawhi cant keep playing Superman while the rest of the team struggles. That's why I say 1-on-5, they'd have lost these last 4 without Kawhi going
Outside of Pau, D-Lee, and Dedmon everybody else has been average or subpar this year. Last year aint got shyt to do with today, LMA has not been great this year just good and that is a stretch
In regards to that OKC series i've always said SA played that series 2-on-5. I acknowledged LMA in that series as the only other scoring option but even he faded in that series. He shot poorly those last 4 games and didnt make near that kind of impact when shyt got tight
SA only won 1 of those 2 games when LMA hit for 41 and 39. Their only other win came when Kawhi went for 32 in Game 4. So no LMA was not the only reason for SA's 2 wins,
Kawhi had a great Game 5 with 26 pts on 12/21 from the field and outplayed KD. Tony went hero ball down the stretch and blew the game.
Kawhi hit a jumper to put them up 6 with 4 mins left and didnt get a 1 shot attempt the rest of the way. Tony went 1/4 with a missed FT down the stretch after that SA was dead and finished in 6
TP and Danny each barely averaged 10 ppg that series. OKC wasnt even guarding them dudes by the series ended
OKC's role players outplayed SA's as well too, nobody for the Spurs stepped up like Waiters, Adams, Ibaka, Roberson did
SA lost to a better team with better players and 2 of those losses were one possession games. Y'all be reaching and making shyt up about that OKC series to downplay Kawhi
I asked for his biggest clutch moment SINCE he started averaging more than 12ppg.
Kawhi averaged 12-6-2 that season. 12-6-2. He wasn't even on the all-star ballot. Wasn't even a consideration for an All-NBA team. Hell, he wasn't even an all-star or All-NBA the next year either. Duncan and TP were CLEARLY the leaders and best players on that team, without any discussion possible. In the playoffs he was a role player doing role player things well. He only got Finals MVP because he "held" Lebron to 28-8-4 on 57/52/70 splits and made his open shots. Duncan and TP each just as easily could have gotten it.
You're talking about a guy who has won ONE playoff series since he first entered the discussion as most important player on the team. A guy who hasn't made a single big clutch shot in the final minute of a game in his entire playoff career. A guy who has lost both big series he's been in since his team started looking at him to take over.
You gotta come with more than "he hit his open shots as a role player in blowouts against overmatched teams three years ago".
You're right, Aldridge had 41 points in Game 2 but the Thunder won with Kawhi having a completely forgettable game on the offensive end, 14 points on 18 shots. Aldridge was absolutely disgusting down the stretch - 4 for 4 with a three-point play AND a three-pointer AND three free throws on a fouled three for 13 points on perfect shooting in the last four minutes.
But Kawhi missed both his shots in the same stretch, either one of which could have turned the game to the Spurs and probably the series. He's probably never had shots as big as the two he missed down the stretch in Game 2.
Game 2 hurts your case for Kawhi's clutchness pretty serious, huh?
It was actually Game 3 that Kawhi went off for 31 in a win, not Game 4.
Still, Aldridge had 24 and 8 in that game and TP had 19-8-5 on great shooting, the Spurs outside of Kawhi were 7-15 from three-point range. He wasn't playing 1-on-5 or even 2-on-5. Down the stretch TP hit two big shots and had 6 points, Aldridge had 5 points, Kawhi had 10 in the last 7 minutes but also a big turnover with 54 seconds left.
In Game 4, Kawhi/Aldridge/TP all hit 20 points, with Kawhi shooting by far the worst out of the three. TP was 10-16 a game after going 7-14, and you're saying shyt like the Thunder weren't guarding him.
In Game 5 Kawhi/Aldridge/Green all hit 20 points, but Aldridge did his on shytty shooting. Green was lights out from three in that game. You're right that Kawhi didn't do anything the last 4 minutes, but you don't get credit for what you DIDN'T do. That's one of the problems with the lane people trying to put Kawhi in - he isn't primarily responsible for ball-handling, or ball distribution, or protecting the rim, and so there's a lot of times when the game is simply out of his hands.
In Game 6 Duncan stepped up for one last game and Kawhi/Aldridge/Duncan all had at least 18. Thunder lost that game on defense, not offense.
That don't make no sense when TP had great offensive games in Game 3 and Game 4 and Green went off in Game 5. Green shot 51% from three putting up six threes a game for that series, and you're saying the Thunder weren't guarding him?
If Kawhi had hit his shots in Game 2, we probably wouldn't be talking about this. If Kawhi could have taken over in Games 4-6 the way that other superstars have, we probably wouldn't be talking about this. Kawhi is a fantastic player who can hit his shots at a great clip within his offensive role and guard one player at a time as well as anyone in the NBA. But he can't take over the game the way other superstars can. Or, if he can, we're still waiting for him to show it.
Trust me, I want to be the one celebrating Kawhi's MVP in 2019. I think he's a top-5 player. But he ain't ready to be crowned just yet.
ManBearPig
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u a retard
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
kawhi is 25
he aint gonna decline once LeBron declines unless kawhi gets seriously injured
-5000 rep? Yikes. I bet you thought LeBron was gonna lose all those series against the Bulls, Celtics, Pacers, huh? Weak East indeed.
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Y'all LeBron stans just need to shut the fukk up sometimes.
Steph 29 next week and KD 29 in six months. Bruh aint that far off
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
LeBron is 32 and Durant is 28
durant will still be lighting it up 4 years from now. Lebron tho?
The only modern example of a superstar player that's never been injured as long as LeBron is Karl Malone who averaged 25 ppg at age 36. If LeBron remains injury free, who knows.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
what was Vince Carter's major injury?
LeBron is gonna slow down soon rather you like it or not. That's inevitability
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And don't forget that he mentioned Kawhi (25) too, plus he added the "etc", so clearly he's talking about other players in the same frame. LeBron's played more minutes than Jordan - let that sink in. He's not your typical 32-year-old player. Both Curry and Durant will still be playing at a high level (providing they're healthy) longer than LeBron will, and whoever else he's including too (health and form pending).