Keefe D confesses to role in the murder of Tupac after revealing he’s now dying of cancer

[kingofnyc]

nikka stomped out a known gang member then got lit up shortly thereafter
1+1=2
Making it more than it needs to be with these conspiracy theories

that’s been my major issue with these conspiracy nikkaz on here
seems like they don’t care about Keffe & Orlando the nikkaz actually involved
BUT
only focus on pinning this on Biggie & Puff





it’s literally the most craziest thing imaginable

 

[kingofnyc]

theres no paper trail cuz puff never paid zip... zip even said puff suddenly cut ties with him after all the killings happened...

and why would he pay when that MGM video exists??

he agitated the street tensions behind the scenes and in the end it worked out great for him

but that vegas shooting was a personal retaliation for the MGM fight... pac walked up and sucker punched orlando

then the MOB nikkas was stomping all over him.. so from orlando point of view, pac led a gang assault on him...

even on the confession tape keefe said deandre smith wanted NO part of that gun when they pulled up

and he was a known shooter in compton... from an interview the cop tim brennan did with bomb1st, dre's the one who killed elbert webb after orlando's gun magazine fell out...

sounds like alotta them southside cats didnt really wanna roll on death row that night

keefe even called out corey edwards in the van full of busters

and mob james and reggie confirmed keefe d wasnt no shooter either

so if orlando wasnt in the cadillac, theres probably no shooting that night...

from the car bullet pattern its obvious pac was his target... not both pac/suge like puff wanted...

keefe d mighta been telling the truth bout puff... but how u gonna prove it in court??

that MGM surveillance video is puff's cover

no beatdown = no shooting...

breh - outstanding post

da fact of Corey and Dre (the driver & behind him) were the 2 best positions shooters in the vehicle.... YET both dem nikkaz refused to pop pac/suge - dem 2 nikkaz were certified SSC killers but wanted no parts in killing pac & suge **whom supposedly had a million dollar hit on their head**

should ultimately solidify the biggie/puff/bad boy million dollar hit conspiracy was complete bullshyt
ain’t no official hood gang nikkaz would turn down a mill with the opportunity they had

i wish these pac/suge stans or biggie/puff haters would part this bullshyt to rest

 

[kingofnyc]

I stopped following this years ago, but I thought the Rolling Stone article featuring Poole connected a whoooole lot of dots. Poole's theory sounded credible to me. I'm not saying you're wrong. But I'm curious, how did the Poole theory get discredited? I do remember Chuck Phillips writing some fantasy bullshyt for the L.A. Times then retracting it, admitting that he made it up.

Poole investigated biggies murder and pretty much was spot on with his investigation as far as pac goes.... he never investigated that murder, simply because he’s not a Las Vegas detective .... he was a Las Angeles detective - what happen was over the years he got a bunch of bad misinformed misinformation saying suge had pac killed. Unfortunately he went on record, meaning he said this in a few interviews... thereafter he eventually realize it wasn’t true and was supposed to have met up with suge while he was in jail to apologize but Poole never got that chance because unfortunately he died

 

[KillSpray]

breh - outstanding post

da fact of Corey and Dre (the driver & behind him) were the 2 best positions shooters in the vehicle.... YET both dem nikkaz refused to pop pac/suge - dem 2 nikkaz were certified SSC killers but wanted no parts in killing pac & suge **whom supposedly had a million dollar hit on their head**

should ultimately solidify the biggie/puff/bad boy million dollar hit conspiracy was complete bullshyt
ain’t no official hood gang nikkaz would turn down a mill with the opportunity they had

i wish these pac/suge stans or biggie/puff haters would part this bullshyt to rest

I understand your logic, and it makes perfect sense what you saying.

The only thing that I would want explained more clearly is the fact that multiple different people connected puffy to south side crips and keefe D particularly. So it’s just a very interesting coincidence they ended up killing Pac (granted Pac did a stupid thing attacking Orlando).

Also, I heard they were also connected to suges body guard getting murdered in Atlanta, another puffy related incident .

 

[ahdsend]

breh - outstanding post

da fact of Corey and Dre (the driver & behind him) were the 2 best positions shooters in the vehicle.... YET both dem nikkaz refused to pop pac/suge - dem 2 nikkaz were certified SSC killers but wanted no parts in killing pac & suge **whom supposedly had a million dollar hit on their head**

should ultimately solidify the biggie/puff/bad boy million dollar hit conspiracy was complete bullshyt
ain’t no official hood gang nikkaz would turn down a mill with the opportunity they had

i wish these pac/suge stans or biggie/puff haters would part this bullshyt to rest

im not saying the offer was fake, but the reason it went down like that is cuz of the beatdown...

even greg kading said keffe didnt really take puff's offer THAT seriously...

"Anyway, Keffe was non-chalant about the money. As I stated before, during his conversation with Puff, he kinda smirked at the "one million dollar" offer. He knew Puff was talking out of fear. Keffe, said he really was only expecting 50K. Also, keep in mind, at the time Keffe was rolling in dough. Orlando himself had gotten 60K outta Suge to testi-lie for him. They weren't desperate for the dough."

"The first mention about the million dollar deal came in May 1997. Thats right after Big was killed. A witness told the LAPD the Big murder was a retaliation over the unpaid "million dollar" Tupac murder. The witness explained that Bad Boy owed the SSCC one million for killing Tupac. Keep in mind, this was early in the investigation. Where would this witness get this info? If it was just made up - doesn't it seem odd it would be corroborated by others down the road, including Keffe."

"Ric - its called corroboration. In an investigation, its called empirical evidence. We did not just automatically believe Keffe just on the strength of his word - we put his word to the test! The million dollars contract was first brought up in the investigation in May of 1997 - long before we ever heard it from Keffe. All the circumstances Keffe described in his interview - we were able to corroborate independent of him. Thats why we believed him.

I think maybe in your mind you have this image of Puff and Keffe sitting around and having a real business-like conversation like something out of The Godfather. It was not like that. Puff was simply scared shytless and threw out some outlandish number. Even Keffe laughed at him. Havent you ever said to someone, "Man, I'll give you a million dollars to.........." You dont really mean it literally, your just trying to emphasis a point.

However, if you dont think these guys had that kind of money - think again. After Suge beat Mark Bells ass in an attempt to find Puffy, Suge paid Bell off $600,000.00 to drop the charges. If you thought your life was on the line like Puff did and you had millions - does it really sound that unreasonable that he'd make such an offer?"

they didnt plan for anything to go down in las vegas...

now they got a "source" close to the investigation sayin they gettin a warrant ready

cuz keefe d got no immunity for his TV interview...


Source: Arrest imminent in Tupac murder case

Source: Arrest warrant being considered in Tupac's murder

 

[banner34]

I wonder if anyone will ask Suge in jail what he think about Keefe D confession

 

[kingofnyc]

I understand your logic, and it makes perfect sense what you saying.

The only thing that I would want explained more clearly is the fact that multiple different people connected puffy to south side crips and keefe D particularly. So it’s just a very interesting coincidence they ended up killing Pac (granted Pac did a stupid thing attacking Orlando).

Also, I heard they were also connected to suges body guard getting murdered in Atlanta, another puffy related incident .

Well the truth is
the beef all started with Suge best friend named Jake robes who was killed at jahmaine Dupree’s birthday party in Atlanta by an associate/ friend of Anthony Wolf Jones whom
was puff security/muscle.... the truth is when suge/jake got into it with a female at the club - the female wanted to holla at Wolfs homeboy - which cause the whole drama One thing led to another and as you probably know when it comes to females shyt got out of hand .... bullets started to fly and suge man was shot and killed - puff wasn’t even there at that particular time he had arrived much later and for whatever reason suge held puff responsible for his best friend being murdered
thereafter a whole bunch of shyt went down with suge basically putting puff in a no-win situation
puff second uncle a man named Zip from Harlem who also was a big-time drug connect did a lot of business with the south side Crips in Cali
Zip introduced puff to them and puff being backed in a corner Decided to put a $1500 bounty on every Desth Row chain that but SSC could get
Trevon Lane a MOP / DR member got caught slipping by Orlando Anderson and that’s when the chain was attempted to be snatched months later the two people Trevon & Orlando happen to be in Vegas for the Tyson fight and when Travon saw Orlando in the casino he told pac & the rest of MOP and as they say the rest is history (that DR chain bounty is the ONLY puff connection)

 

[kingofnyc]

im not saying the offer was fake, but the reason it went down like that is cuz of the beatdown...

even greg kading said keffe didnt really take puff's offer THAT seriously...









they didnt plan for anything to go down in las vegas...

now they got a "source" close to the investigation sayin they gettin a warrant ready

cuz keefe d got no immunity for his TV interview...


Source: Arrest imminent in Tupac murder case

Source: Arrest warrant being considered in Tupac's murder

my ONLY point is too many people seems to believe puff had pac killed which is unequivocally false

 

[B!tchuoffendingme]

Yall really think Sean Combs had a hand in this? Real talk, no bullshyt. I dont think Diddy is built like that. And I think if he was involved, he would go down for it, cause aint no way American law enforcement is allowing a Black man with his wealth & resources to walk on murder conspiracy.

 

[ahdsend]

my ONLY point is too many people seems to believe puff had pac killed which is unequivocally false

how bout zip providing the weapon??

keefe said that in 2008, while zip was still alive...

 

[kingofnyc]

how bout zip providing the weapon??

keefe said that in 2008, while zip was still alive...

doesn't have anything to do with puff
Zip & Keffe have been doing business for years

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

It's been known but like Biggie it's crazy how they almost didn't get killed if it wasn't for girls yelling out their names

Biggie got shot four times only the fourth bullet was fatal

Suge and Puffy are responsible for the deaths of many men

I remember reading somewhere that Biggie had a bulletproof SUV that was just two weeks out from shipping out

Reading about Tupac's last days in the hospital I remember reading he was close to surviving and they were going to move him to New Jersey

To me only death that hurts me more where we killed our own is Malcolm X

There's a movie featuring the great Merlin Santana loosed based off this called Play'd

This may not be the thread for this but y'all really believe Pac ain't have no kids lol ?

There's two things that infuriate me about the biggie death

1. He was supposed to be in Europe on tour and Diddy decided to drag him out to LA.

2. He was supposed to get a bulletproof rental but diddy was being stingy and skimped out on getting it

 

[Kinguno]

There's two things that infuriate me about the biggie death

1. He was supposed to be in Europe on tour and Diddy decided to drag him out to LA.

2. He was supposed to get a bulletproof rental but diddy was being stingy and skimped out on getting it

Man was in LA and did the Long Kiss Goodnight verse before anybody in the world heard it

There should always be a driver in the car to get away fast

When you in enemy territory you must not announce your departure

 

[Renzo]

Yall really think Sean Combs had a hand in this? Real talk, no bullshyt. I dont think Diddy is built like that. And I think if he was involved, he would go down for it, cause aint no way American law enforcement is allowing a Black man with his wealth & resources to walk on murder conspiracy.

Puffy on a individual level wasnt built like that but keep in mind the dudes around him gave him heart but he had Suge and his crew on his ass and it was only a matter of time, Tupac was publically stating they were dead men walking. Puffy was shook, which is why he skipped out on the sit down with Suge.

 

[panopticon]

How many times is this nikka going confess? This like the 10th "confession"

Probably because every time he does, there's a check involved