Kendrick Lamar created the perfect example of a Modern, Mainstream, Christian Album

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I guess I have to give the album a spin, but, the actual HiiiPower philosophy (headed by Ab Soul--an atheist) is a bit troubling.

I was never a "Black Hippy" fan (only listened to K.Dot and a hand full of verses), so I never connected the dots. But, learning a little more about Kendrick's following of HiiiPower (I thought it was just a song), how much Ab-Soul heads it (got the vibe he was an atheist from 3 songs or so) and background on Ab-Soul's life has me rethinking what Kendrick stands for.

I can't judge this new album (I haven't heard it), but, what I learned about HiiiPower--from one person's perspective--has me observing Kendrick a little more sharply, than before.
Ab Soul is just a lost soul. Kdizzle is promoting Christ on his album. Dont be altered in your decision to give this album a spin like djs, friend.
 

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Might be a first in mainstream hip/hip history from a male artist

Still some club/commerical songs, cussing, and harsh realities

But the theme for the album from the Intro to the Outro is clearly about overcoming the tragic situations in your life, letting go of the hate, and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior :wow:

Surprised these demonic, illuminati record execs let this one slip by and are actually pushing it.

They may never allow this to happen again.....we saw what hapened with Lauryn Hill :to:

There is not a single club song on that album
 

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Ab Soul is just a lost soul. Kdizzle is promoting Christ on his album. Dont be altered in your decision to give this album a spin like djs, friend.

What's it say about Kendrick, if he's following a friend with a lost soul?

He's admitted that HiiiPower is Ab-Souls idea...but, I'm not judging either of them...
 

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I guess I have to give the album a spin, but, the actual HiiiPower philosophy (headed by Ab Soul--an atheist) is a bit troubling.

I was never a "Black Hippy" fan (only listened to K.Dot and a hand full of verses), so I never connected the dots. But, learning a little more about Kendrick's following of HiiiPower (I thought it was just a song), how much Ab-Soul heads it (got the vibe he was an atheist from 3 songs or so) and background on Ab-Soul's life has me rethinking what Kendrick stands for.

I can't judge this new album (I haven't heard it), but, what I learned about HiiiPower--from one person's perspective--has me observing Kendrick a little more sharply, than before.

What's the movement about?

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What's it say about Kendrick, if he's following a friend with a lost soul?

He's admitted that HiiiPower is Ab-Souls idea...but, I'm not judging either of them...

You dont get rewards following only people who believe the same thing as you, friend. You get rewards bringing lost souls, into the light.
 

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What's the movement about?

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Well, I'm not too in tune with what they stand for, because, I only listen to Kendrick.

It started with this thread about Kendrick being an industry plant...

Y'all actually got me thinking I need to reexamine Kendrick's tracks

Never got an agnostic/atheist vibe from him or a negative-to-the-black-youth

I've, really only heard Section.80 (heard OD twice, but didnt really get a feel for it) and a few joints here and there

I don't really mess with Tde, but, I get y'all about them glorifying hedonism...but, most mainstream rap does

As for the young ladies suicide; not everyone, who takes their own life, a sad sack beforehand
I responded to people being skeptic on the amount of support, an artist like him, is gettin' from the biggest of big wigs. And how Alori Joh was apart of an Illuminati ritual (I don't, never have, believed in the Illuminati--so I'm not rockin' a tin foil hat, here).

I've always looked at him as a "positive, spiritual" type, but, the posters did raise some interesting points.

Read the thread, if you like--the above was my first post in the thread.


This is the link that kinda informed me about Black Hippy.

Disclaimer: I don't vouch for the validity of anything in that justifytheory link (I need to do my research, first).

Before clickin' the link;

  • I've only listened to OD (twice) & Section.80 (many times--I love that album), Cartoon & Cereal, Westside, Right On Time, and, maybe, ten other Kendrick guest verses--so I felt I was a fan who got who Kendrick was.
  • Thought HiiiPower was just some song, not, a movement they (Black Hippy) live by.
  • I didn't understand how much influence Ab-Soul had over the group.
  • Knew of ol' girl's suicide, but, knew nothing of her except her hooks and appearance in the HiiiPower video.
  • Only heard 2 or 3 Ab-Soul songs (Bohemian Grove, this track with Danny Brown, and a another [I forget]); so I understood his style (nihilism) and that he was atheist.
  • Never listened to a Schoolboy Q or Jay Rock song, but, knew of them.

The link is long, but, my understanding of HiiiiPower is that;

The doctrine was created by Ab-Soul. It's about self-empowerment by rejecting all authority (secular and spiritual). It's about using drugs to open your third eye, which is apparently something "the man" doesn't want us to access, because, it's our hidden knowledge. It's completely nihilistic way of life and gettin' ready for society's evidential fall.

I may be off (you can read that link for yourself--it's a long read [with a lot of things to fact check]), but, it's interesting to see what the origin is of a lot of these beliefs the HiiiPower movement comes from.

Again, I'm not that Illuminati guy who thinks the world is controlled by a demon group of reptiles. The entire thing (the existence of the Illuminati) is based off Nazis/Anti-Semites (and there's a lot of antisemitism on this site) pushing an agenda. There was a small group (100 hundreds of years ago) that refered to themselves as the Enlighted Ones (or sometime like that), but, have be gone for 100s of years (Again, do your own reasearch--use credible sources, without an agenda).

If anything, the world is controlled by managers of the richest corporations (that's another thread), not some spooky secret group.


Here's my response to that post (that had the link):

I appreciate the link, but, don't get it twisted: my mind stays vigilant for the things I'm hearing.

Ab Soul always (for the little time I've known of him) struck me as a dude angry he lived a tough life and that leading him to atheism. Like I said; I've really messed with Section.80 and that was a concept album that makes a lot of sense to me. The religious disillusion is obvious to me. But, we see that all throughout society, so, it made sense for that to appear on a concept album about society and the youth in it.

I could have done without most the article. It enlightened me on Ab's condition (didn't know it was that severe a disease) and lyrics of dudes I dont listen to. I don't believe in this dramatic existence of the all great Illuminati (we could go all day about--including how everyone with an Internet connection has detailed info on all their schemes).

I'm open minded about the idea of ppl usin their experiences with drugs as some proof of an existence of a higher realm. NOTE: This is why I believed that singer killed herself

I really don't like those type of posts because they are so obvious bias. Every little detail is a "well, he might be referring to."

He loses me with the dramatics. He really shows Black Hippy to be self-righteous, misguided youths who believe hedonism and anarchy is the way to some sort of freedom.

What kills me about this "symbolism" talk is that it only becomes a problem with it's dramatized with Illuminati talk, pyramids and numbers. But, cats talkin about the same things (hedonism & anarchy) don't get nearly as much reflection and examination because they don't wear pyramids. It's probably because it will lead to us having to actually attack real issues, and leave all that Final-Warcraft-Masonic-squares crap on your harddrives. :dry:

Are these brothas misguided? I believe so. But, so are we, worrying about sex rituals and shapes.

I believe the mind control is the belief in some fake group we can't stop. Leading us hopeless and (really) scared.

I live by the Bible and not by the fear of an organization that doesn't exist. I'll pray for those brothers and try to reach the local youth, the best I can.

Too much energy put into secret symbols when we could be givin open love.

Ab-Soul is the leader, so, it starts with him. And a lot of the things he practices has their roots occultism. It's bothersome, because, he is an atheist and he makes mention of these practices:

"f*** I'm doing talkin' about pineal glands
Ancient ways of Sumerians
ain't nothing wrong with a righteous man"
- from the song, "Terrorist Threats"

"...my enlightenments' the ancient Chaldeans"
- from the song, "Beautiful Death" (feat. Punch)

You'll have to read it, to get a better explanation.

Be warned; it is a conspiracy site (75% of it is hollow dramatics, 20% disputable, 5% facts).

I'm callin' anyone "demonic," nor am I deleting all my Kendrick music (yet).

I just understand that; a lot of their doctrine has troubling origins.

I'm goin' keep researching--as time permits--before I make a final judgement.
 

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i noticed he refers to women as bytches virtually across the board...not saying anybody's perfect just sayin
 
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